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RunKC 06-15-2024 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17551425)
They did draft one, but he’s got a very high ceiling. Hate to say it but I think Creed is a goner next year, he’s going to get a ridiculous offer from someone and I don’t think the Chiefs will even be close. I don’t see how you drop $15 million a year on a center in this offense, which is the bare minimum Creed is going to get.

They let Rodney Hudson walk, they let Mitch Morse walk, and we won our first Super Bowl with a street free agent at center. Unless they’re planning on moving on from Thuney, but with such a young LT that seems unlikely. We’ll see, but just going by the trends they’ve already set it seems like he’s probably gone.

This mindset probably changed after the SB debacle vs the Bucs. Creed is the best C in football and his elite pass protection is incredibly valuable.

Nourzad is best fit as a G. I think the insane price hike of G’s getting $20+ million made the Trey Smith decision an easy one. Nourzad will most likely take over in 2025 for Trey.

C is a cheap position. You can give Creed a LTD and make it backloaded to where you’re paying roughly $12-13 million most of the contract.

So the question is: is Creed worth paying an inflated MVS contract in terms of cap hits?

Easy answer

Delano 06-15-2024 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17552722)
"Current moves"?

Please don't tell me you're clueless enough to believe the Chiefs drafting a versatile IOL on day 3 means anything about Humphrey LMAO

Yes, Andy let Morse and Hudson walk. He didn't draft Hudson, and Morse had concussion issues though, so that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to let the best C in the NFL do the same. Do you honestly believe that Jason Kelce wouldn't have still been an Eagle for life if Andy never left Philly?

I don't think it's a guarantee by any means, but I think it's more likely than not that Humphrey will get a 2nd contract.

Evidence the Chiefs are giving themselves the option to move on is clear. 100% of the time he’s been given the option to sign a center long term in KC, Andy has declined.

I don’t want you to spoil another thread with your need to be right all the time.

staylor26 06-15-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 17552732)
Evidence the Chiefs are giving themselves the option to move on is clear. 100% of the time he’s been given the option to sign a center long term in KC, Andy has declined.

I don’t want you to spoil another thread with your need to be right all the time.

They literally replaced Allegretti. That's all they did.

But tapout acknowledged.

Tribal Warfare 06-15-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17552754)
They literally replaced Allegretti. That's all they did.

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Possibly Thuney

tredadda 06-15-2024 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17552722)
"Current moves"?

Please don't tell me you're clueless enough to believe the Chiefs drafting a versatile IOL on day 3 means anything about Humphrey LMAO

Yes, Andy let Morse and Hudson walk. He didn't draft Hudson, and Morse had concussion issues though, so that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to let the best C in the NFL do the same. Do you honestly believe that Jason Kelce wouldn't have still been an Eagle for life if Andy never left Philly?

I don't think it's a guarantee by any means, but I think it's more likely than not that Humphrey will get a 2nd contract.

It’s not 2nd contracts that are bad. It’s the third ones more often than not. KC is more likely to resign Creed than they are Trey.

Delano 06-15-2024 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17552754)
They literally replaced Allegretti. That's all they did.

But tapout acknowledged.

Maybe in 2024 that’s the role. Nourzad will most likely start at a center or guard spot in 2025. Which is what I said all along - the Chiefs are positioning themselves to replace Humphrey if needed. Crazy contract demands, injuries, cap flexibility are all factors in play. Calling someone clueless for thinking this is peak stralor.

staylor26 06-15-2024 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 17552774)
Maybe in 2024 that’s the role. Nourzad will most likely start at a center or guard spot in 2025. Which is what I said all along - the Chiefs are positioning themselves to replace Humphrey if needed. Crazy contract demands, injuries, cap flexibility are all factors in play. Calling someone clueless for thinking this is peak stralor.

You sure are moving goalposts just a tad. There was much more certainty than this in your first post.

And I know your reading comprehension is shit, but this is why I said you're clueless:

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Please don't tell me you're clueless enough to believe the Chiefs drafting a versatile IOL on day 3 means anything about Humphreya

Delano 06-15-2024 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17552781)
You sure are moving goalposts just a tad. There was much more certainty than this in your first post.

And I know your reading comprehension is shit, but this is why I said you're clueless:

Fire up thread-wrecking machine 26 folks.

All three or four posts of mine in this thread mention the Chiefs are positioning themselves, giving themselves options, etc. Hardly declarative comments. The only certainty we have here is that Reid hasn’t resigned a center during his time in KC even though the centers have been elite at that time. The chiefs also drafted two interior prospects - one of whom played very well at center last year. I believe these pieces of evidence show the Chiefs are preparing themselves to move on. Could Humphrey remain a Chief? Of course - assuming the contract fits and they don’t have a viable, cheaper replacement.

Does drafting two interior lineman have an impact on future decisions? Absolutely. Veach isnt throwing darts with a blindfold on here.

RealSNR 06-15-2024 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 17552801)
Fire up thread-wrecking machine 26 folks.

All three or four posts of mine in this thread mention the Chiefs are positioning themselves, giving themselves options, etc. Hardly declarative comments. The only certainty we have here is that Reid hasn’t resigned a center during his time in KC even though the centers have been elite at that time. The chiefs also drafted two interior prospects - one of whom played very well at center last year. I believe these pieces of evidence show the Chiefs are preparing themselves to move on. Could Humphrey remain a Chief? Of course - assuming the contract fits and they don’t have a viable, cheaper replacement.

Does drafting two interior lineman have an impact on future decisions? Absolutely. Veach isnt throwing darts with a blindfold on here.

They're giving themselves options, but Veach has shown he's not afraid to pay for top quality starting interior linemen. If Nourzad/Hanson are good starting quality linemen, then sure. Otherwise, don't be surprised if Humphrey gets a new deal.

staylor26 06-15-2024 01:43 PM

It's pretty simple.

The Chiefs aren't losing both Smoth and Humphrey.

The G market is out of ****ing control. The C market is very reasonable.

Creed is a better C than Smith is a G.

Do the math.

MahomesMagic 06-15-2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17552723)
This mindset probably changed after the SB debacle vs the Bucs. Creed is the best C in football and his elite pass protection is incredibly valuable.

Nourzad is best fit as a G. I think the insane price hike of G’s getting $20+ million made the Trey Smith decision an easy one. Nourzad will most likely take over in 2025 for Trey.

C is a cheap position. You can give Creed a LTD and make it backloaded to where you’re paying roughly $12-13 million most of the contract.

So the question is: is Creed worth paying an inflated MVS contract in terms of cap hits?

Easy answer

I want Creed to protect Mahomes the rest of his career.

tredadda 06-15-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17552810)
They're giving themselves options, but Veach has shown he's not afraid to pay for top quality starting interior linemen. If Nourzad/Hanson are good starting quality linemen, then sure. Otherwise, don't be surprised if Humphrey gets a new deal.

If they both end up as starting quality linemen then one will replace Thuney and the other will most likely be Smith. I don’t think Smith will get a market setting deal, but I would be curious if he gets more than Creed.

Wisconsin_Chief 06-15-2024 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17552723)
This mindset probably changed after the SB debacle vs the Bucs. Creed is the best C in football and his elite pass protection is incredibly valuable.

Nourzad is best fit as a G. I think the insane price hike of G’s getting $20+ million made the Trey Smith decision an easy one. Nourzad will most likely take over in 2025 for Trey.

C is a cheap position. You can give Creed a LTD and make it backloaded to where you’re paying roughly $12-13 million most of the contract.

So the question is: is Creed worth paying an inflated MVS contract in terms of cap hits?

Easy answer

Very logical take, hopefully they are looking at it like this as well.

Easy 6 06-15-2024 03:04 PM

Does anyone else think of Creed and Tre when this comes on?

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Easy 6 06-15-2024 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17552818)
I want Creed to protect Mahomes the rest of his career.

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