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Mosbonian 04-27-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4718901)
Just so you know, Carl Nicks likely was removed from the Chiefs draft board, that's how it looks.

And that we can be thankful for.....based on what I have read on here.

mmaddog
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alnorth 04-27-2008 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBucc (Post 4718913)
He's not even on Scott Wright's CB list. I have no idea who he is.

Yeah, I'm wondering about this. If we like this kid, fine, but wouldnt he be available in the 6th round?

chiefs1111 04-27-2008 11:55 AM

I wonder if Kiper will have anything to say

jjchieffan 04-27-2008 11:55 AM

Overview

Carr was a three-year starter and a two-year All-American for perennial Division II power Grand Valley State. He brought in 11 interceptions over the past three years and broke up another 37 passes during that time. He has a ways to go before competing for a starting or nickel back position, but his upside is high enough to warrant a late-round selection.

chiefbowe82 04-27-2008 11:55 AM

should have took a kicker

markk 04-27-2008 11:56 AM

6'0" 207lbs.

Carr was a three-year starter and a two-year All-American for perennial Division II power Grand Valley State. He brought in 11 interceptions over the past three years and broke up another 37 passes during that time. He has a ways to go before competing for a starting or nickel back position, but his upside is high enough to warrant a late-round selection.

Positives: Prototypical size for corner, tall with decent build and nice arm span … Shows good hands for the interception and can high-point the ball … Turns and runs with receivers well, showing good speed and the ability to maintain position … Plays in the slot at times, but is best on the outside.

Negatives: A better athlete than football player … Does not play as physically or aggressively as you'd like with his size … He does not press much and is only adequate coming up in run support or getting off receiver blocks … Marginal backpedal, and plays a bit high … Rough transition against smaller, quicker receivers.

eazyb81 04-27-2008 11:56 AM

<TABLE class=SLTables1 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=bg0><TD>Overview</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>Carr was a three-year starter and a two-year All-American for perennial Division II power Grand Valley State. He brought in 11 interceptions over the past three years and broke up another 37 passes during that time. He has a ways to go before competing for a starting or nickel back position, but his upside is high enough to warrant a late-round selection.
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<TABLE class=SLTables1 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=bg0><TD>Analysis</TD></TR><TR class=bg2><TD>Positives: Prototypical size for corner, tall with decent build and nice arm span … Shows good hands for the interception and can high-point the ball … Turns and runs with receivers well, showing good speed and the ability to maintain position … Plays in the slot at times, but is best on the outside. Negatives: A better athlete than football player … Does not play as physically or aggressively as you'd like with his size … He does not press much and is only adequate coming up in run support or getting off receiver blocks … Marginal backpedal, and plays a bit high … Rough transition against smaller, quicker receivers.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

keg in kc 04-27-2008 11:56 AM

That one's easy: we like the name Brandon.

chiefs1111 04-27-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 4718921)
Yeah, I'm wondering about this. If we like this kid, fine, but wouldnt he be available in the 6th round?

Hell,he may have been available as a free agent

Hammock Parties 04-27-2008 11:56 AM

OK, let's pray Nicks lasts to the 6th.

NICKS IN THE SIXTH!

dirk digler 04-27-2008 11:56 AM

I thought the OL class was deep? I could care less if they don't draft Nicks but cmon Jeez

Tits McGee 04-27-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 4718918)
Brandon Carr actually has a highlight clip on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB3Ns...eature=related


You Tube is our scouting dept.

banyon 04-27-2008 11:57 AM

Marcus Maxey/Alphonso Hodge, Part II.

Mecca 04-27-2008 11:57 AM

The Chiefs are picking that guy based on thinking they can coach him into the position.....that must be a Herm pick.

Delano 04-27-2008 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 4718921)
Yeah, I'm wondering about this. If we like this kid, fine, but wouldnt he be available in the 6th round?

Either that or as a free agent.

Mosbonian 04-27-2008 11:57 AM

More from Rivals.com:

6 (105) Kansas City Chiefs Will Franklin WR Missouri
Murphy: Franklin stays in-state and brings a wealth of speed to the Chiefs; he ran 4.37 in workouts. He is a little inconsistent at times with his hands/routes, but is a good choice at this point. The Chiefs are having the best draft thus far.

5 (140) Kansas City Chiefs Brandon Carr CB GRAND VALLEY ST
Murphy: Carr is a versatile small-school defender that is viewed as a free safety type that ran 4.4's at his workouts. He is a little stiff in man-to-man coverage, but has shown very good ball skills at his level.


mmaddog
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Mecca 04-27-2008 11:58 AM

I personally love Scandrick but he's a man guy that struggles in zone and is a great special teamer.

rrl308 04-27-2008 11:58 AM

NFL Draft Prospect Interview: Brandon Carr, CB, Grand Valley St.
by Michael Abromowitz, 4/18/08. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie may be the consensus top cornerback from the lower ranks of college football, but the 2nd best CB may be Brandon Carr from division 2 powerhouse Grand Valley St. Carr had a successful pro day and has already met with the Chiefs and Bengals. Look for him to be a late round sleeper.


TheFootballExpert.com: What is your accurate height, weight and forty time?

Brandon Carr: 6’0, 205lbs, 4.43

TheFootballExpert.com: Describe your game in three words or less.

Brandon Carr: Smart, technician, battler

TheFootballExpert.com: What do you feel is your greatest strength as a football player and what area do you feel you need to improve in?

Brandon Carr: My greatest strength is the ability to play multiple coverages and technique. I always feel there is room for improvement in technique. I am going to be playing against the elite and technique is a must.

TheFootballExpert.com: What NFL player do you do you think you compare favorably to?

Brandon Carr: Champ Bailey

TheFootballExpert.com: Who is the best player you have faced during your college football career?

Brandon Carr: Eric Fowler in practice

TheFootballExpert.com: What is your greatest football moment to date?

Brandon Carr: Winning the 2006 National Championship

TheFootballExpert.com: Did you have a favorite pro team growing up? Favorite player?

Brandon Carr: Growing up I was a Dallas Cowboys fan, but my new favorite team will be the one that wants me to come play for them. My favorite player was Deion Sanders




TheFootballExpert.com: How instrumental was Head Coach Martin in your progression?

Brandon Carr: Coach Martin instilled in me the mindset that anything is possible. He stressed the importance of selling out each play and just giving it your all.

TheFootballExpert.com: What have former college teammates now in the NFL told you about preparing for the league?


Brandon Carr: They have told me to just keep working hard and stay focused. I talk to former teammate Derrick Jones weekly and he gives me some insight on what to expect at the next level. They told me to not get caught up in the “life”. The most important thing to do once I get there is to learn the playbook.

TheFootballExpert.com: When you get your first professional paycheck what is the first thing you will buy?

Brandon Carr: I am not much of a material man. I have a 1-year-old daughter and I want her to be taken care of. I have been thinking about getting the best insurance policy and to start her a savings account.

TheFootballExpert.com: How have you been preparing for the NFL Draft?

Brandon Carr: I will continue to do what I have been doing for years and that is WORK! I still have something to prove. I have to prove that even though I came from a D2 school, I can compete with the best of them.

TheFootballExpert.com: Do you have any goals in mind when it comes to the NFL Draft?

Brandon Carr: Since the summer of the 2006 season my goal was to put myself in a position to where I would be a possible draft pick.

TheFootballExpert.com: What is the one thing you will most miss at college?

Brandon Carr: Fellowshipping with various different cultures of people.

TheFootballExpert.com: Where is the best place to get a bite to eat in Allendale, MI?


Brandon Carr: There are two places I have in mind, Uccello’s or Peppino’s. I know Uccello’s has a good lunch buffet.

TheFootballExpert.com: What was your favorite college course and why?

Brandon Carr: My favorite college course was psychology because I got an understanding of how the mind works and why people do certain things.

TheFootballExpert.com: Any pregame rituals? Food? Music?

Brandon Carr: I’m not too much of a superstitious person. The one “must” is that I listen to a song by an artist from my hometown (1000 Bars). The song is called Right Here.

TheFootballExpert.com: What is something football fans may not know about you?

Brandon Carr: They may not know that I love singing.

TheFootballExpert.com: Do you read mock drafts or listen to what draft experts have to say?

Brandon Carr: Yes I look at all of that when I have some time to spare. It’s more of a motivational tool.

TheFootballExpert.com: What was the last good movie you saw?

Brandon Carr: The last good movie I saw was Welcome Home Roscoe Jenkins.

TheFootballExpert.com: What do you plan to do once your playing career is over?

Brandon Carr: I want to someday own my own business. I also want to be able to enjoy life and be there for my family.


TheFootballExpert.com: Thanks for taking the time to answer some questions and good luck!

Brandon Carr: No problem, I appreciate you taking the time to ask me questions.

eazyb81 04-27-2008 11:58 AM

<TABLE width=514 bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#999999 colSpan=3 height=2>Strengths:</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff colSpan=3 height=17>Ideal size and strength. Adequate speed and overall athletic ability. Reliable tackler. A playmaker in coverage. Adjusts well to the ball in the air. Good leaping ability. </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#999999 colSpan=3 height=2>Weaknesses: </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff colSpan=3 height=2>Lacks ideal ball skills; can make plays on the ball but won't come away with an overwhelming number of interceptions. Hasn't played against elite competition. Doesn't play as physical as his size and strength would allow. </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#999999 colSpan=3 height=2>Comments: </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff colSpan=3 height=2>Carr is one of the better small school prospects in the draft. He's overshadowed by guys small school corners such as Dominique Cromartie-Rodgers, but he certainly will get a look as the next level. He has the physical tools to take his game to the NFL, but his lack of experience against top competition will keep him in the later rounds of the draft. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Mecca 04-27-2008 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmaddog (Post 4718953)
More from Rivals.com:

6 (105) Kansas City Chiefs Will Franklin WR Missouri
Murphy: Franklin stays in-state and brings a wealth of speed to the Chiefs; he ran 4.37 in workouts. He is a little inconsistent at times with his hands/routes, but is a good choice at this point. The Chiefs are having the best draft thus far.

5 (140) Kansas City Chiefs Brandon Carr CB GRAND VALLEY ST
Murphy: Carr is a versatile small-school defender that is viewed as a free safety type that ran 4.4's at his workouts. He is a little stiff in man-to-man coverage, but has shown very good ball skills at his level.


mmaddog
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If the Chiefs put him at FS with that Morgan pick at SS they just told everyone..

"Our safeties are to big and to slow"

eazyb81 04-27-2008 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4718950)
The Chiefs are picking that guy based on thinking they can coach him into the position.....that must be a Herm pick.

Exactly what I thought. Herm has a soft spot for CBs from small schools, and loves to give them a chance.

rrl308 04-27-2008 11:59 AM

Comparing himself to Champ Bailey. Got to say the guys got some big ones.

recxjake 04-27-2008 11:59 AM

I have faith in Herm that he knows what he is doing with CB's.... this is Surtains replacement for next year.

Hammock Parties 04-27-2008 11:59 AM

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs10/300...nBoneDaddy.jpg

JBucc 04-27-2008 12:00 PM

"TheFootballExpert.com: What NFL player do you do you think you compare favorably to?

Brandon Carr: Champ Bailey"



Well he's confident

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2008 12:00 PM

I'm not a fan of this pick. Trae Williams had to be a better prospect.

the Talking Can 04-27-2008 12:00 PM

I'm not an OL homer...but surely young/sullivan/? was worth a need pick there, no?

MIAdragon 04-27-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBucc (Post 4718976)
"TheFootballExpert.com: What NFL player do you do you think you compare favorably to?

Brandon Carr: Champ Bailey"



Well he's confident

or a dumb ass

Mecca 04-27-2008 12:00 PM

Nothing is funnier than watching the OL people flip out, still plenty of quality I bet there are starting OL signed as UDFA's the Chiefs just have to be the smart team that signs the right guys.

Mecca 04-27-2008 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4718978)
I'm not a fan of this pick. Trae Williams had to be a better prospect.

I think they're picking for system because Scandrick and Williams are pretty much man guys and struggle with zone.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2008 12:01 PM

I'm betting that this guy is going to compete for Page's spot and possibily as a Nickel/Dime back.

Mecca 04-27-2008 12:01 PM

Scandrick is a GREAT pick for Dallas who plays man.

keg in kc 04-27-2008 12:01 PM

He certainly says the right things.

Tits McGee 04-27-2008 12:01 PM

Brandon Carr: "They may not know that I love singing."
Pollard & Carr, the next big Veags act since the rat pack.

Mecca 04-27-2008 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 4718981)
I'm not an OL homer...but surely young/sullivan/? was worth a need pick there, no?

I think Sullivan is a backup at this level...Young can start though.

melbar 04-27-2008 12:02 PM

I will say if I trust herm to scout 1 position well it is CB.

JBucc 04-27-2008 12:03 PM

I'd say give Herm the benefit of the doubt on CB's but we haven't really drafted one that's proven anything yet.

rrl308 04-27-2008 12:04 PM

Chris Horwedel: Is there a player you pattern the way you play after?

Brandon Carr: I have been trying to pattern my game around Champ Bailey for years now. I love the we he plays out there and he is a motivational tool for me. I do not know if I show glimpses of him but a lot of my teammates call me "Champ". My goal is to play at the next level and have the success that Champ has if not more. I believe the sky is the limit and I am not intimidated by the guys coming from all the DI schools because if you make it to the NFL every rookie has a shot. My motto for football is "GRiND NOW, SHiNE LATER", and my favorite personal quote is, "You'll See".

No problem with confidence.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2008 12:04 PM

DeMario Pressley. Very nice.

Mosbonian 04-27-2008 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4718960)
If the Chiefs put him at FS with that Morgan pick at SS they just told everyone..

"Our safeties are to big and to slow"

The question is....are they right?

mmaddog
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eazyb81 04-27-2008 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4718986)
I think they're picking for system because Scandrick and Williams are pretty much man guys and struggle with zone.

Yep, it's obvious we're looking for physical DBs that fit our system and can come up and contribute in run support.

Mecca 04-27-2008 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmaddog (Post 4719006)
The question is....are they right?

mmaddog
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With him I dunno.....

I like Morgan more than any safety on our roster right now though.

Mecca 04-27-2008 12:06 PM

I'll feel bad for this guy if he doesn't get picked.

Mosbonian 04-27-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4719011)
With him I dunno.....

I like Morgan more than any safety on our roster right now though.

To be honest I would have no problem starting all over.....if it makes us stronger in 2 years.

mmaddog
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keg in kc 04-27-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrl308 (Post 4719002)
my favorite personal quote is, "You'll See".

We just drafted Stevie Richards.

milkman 04-27-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBucc (Post 4718999)
I'd say give Herm the benefit of the doubt on CB's but we haven't really drafted one that's proven anything yet.

If by " proven anything yet" youmean on the college level, I'd have to say that Brandon Flowers proved domething there.

NUMBER7 04-27-2008 12:07 PM

Based on a few of the day 2 picks the Chefs are saving up for the new club level renovation at Arrowhead.

banyon 04-27-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
If the Chiefs put him at FS with that Morgan pick at SS they just told everyone..

"Our safeties are to big and to slow"

Thy're also telling everyone that the 06 draft, only 2 years old is essentially an abortion.

2006
Rnd Name College Note
1 Tamba Hali Penn State
2 Bernard Pollard Purdue
3 Brodie Croyle Alabama
5 Marcus Maxey Miami (FL)
6 Tre' Stallings Mississippi
6 Jeff Webb San Diego State
7 Jarrad Page UCLA

Mecca 04-27-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4719022)
We just drafted Stevie Richards.

I'll show you!

eazyb81 04-27-2008 12:08 PM

My God, the Bengals just never learn. They just took Jason Shirley, another guy with major character issues.

rrl308 04-27-2008 12:08 PM

Chris Horwedel: If you could pick a pro team to play for, who would it be?

Brandon Carr: I would play for any team in the league! We play a combination of man and zone coverages here at Grand Valley but the coverage I like the most is Cover-2. I would not mind playing for the Bucs, Bears, Lions, or the Colts.

Mosbonian 04-27-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4719014)
I'll feel bad for this guy if he doesn't get picked.

Seems like a quality guy.....

mmaddog
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Mecca 04-27-2008 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon (Post 4719029)
Thy're also telling everyone that the 06 draft, only 2 years old is essentially an abortion.

2006
Rnd Name College Note
1 Tamba Hali Penn State
2 Bernard Pollard Purdue
3 Brodie Croyle Alabama
5 Marcus Maxey Miami (FL)
6 Tre' Stallings Mississippi
6 Jeff Webb San Diego State
7 Jarrad Page UCLA

Pollard and Page to me have "roles"

To me Pollard is a LB/S tweener that should basically be one of your special teams guys that plays LB in nickel and plays S in goaline or major run spots.

ChiefsCountry 04-27-2008 12:09 PM

Eric Young's injury must be a major concern to teams.

Dave Lane 04-27-2008 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recxjake (Post 4718968)
I have faith in Herm that he knows what he is doing with CB's.... this is Surtains replacement for next year.

But then you have faith in Bush, McCain and GM so I guess that invalidates your opinion.

Dave

Mecca 04-27-2008 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 4719041)
Eric Young's injury must be a major concern to teams.

He may end up as a UDFA, either way the Chiefs I suspect will get some UDFA linemen.

milkman 04-27-2008 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4719014)
I'll feel bad for this guy if he doesn't get picked.

What guy are you talking about?

Mecca 04-27-2008 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4719054)
What guy are you talking about?

That guy from Army.

Hammock Parties 04-27-2008 12:14 PM

Maybe we can sign Nicks to an UDFA contract.

alnorth 04-27-2008 12:14 PM

Hahaha, the Lions drafted a FB. That's funny because it was a dumb choice.

Coach 04-27-2008 12:15 PM

There goes Bowen from ISU.

keg in kc 04-27-2008 12:15 PM

That little bitch at the center reminds me of Ryan from The Office.

alnorth 04-27-2008 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOATSE (Post 4719067)
Maybe we can sign Nicks to an UDFA contract.


We could probably use another waterboy.

Basileus777 04-27-2008 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 4719069)
Hahaha, the Lions drafted a FB. That's funny because it was a dumb choice.

The Lions were just a fullback away from a championship.

melbar 04-27-2008 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4719058)
That guy from Army.

Caleb Campbell SS

Mecca 04-27-2008 12:19 PM

There's still plenty of talent for the Chiefs to get, they've done a good job this year so I'll trust them a bit more on talent evaluations.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2008 12:19 PM

Jerome Felton gone before Schmidt LMAO.

ChiefsCountry 04-27-2008 12:20 PM

Get this on another site - these Rams fans are arguing with me that the Rams are more popular in Missouri than the Chiefs.

melbar 04-27-2008 12:20 PM

Side note.

Who's draft outside of KC do you like the best ?

chiefs1111 04-27-2008 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 4719069)
Hahaha, the Lions drafted a FB. That's funny because it was a dumb choice.

Should we really be surprised?????

keg in kc 04-27-2008 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4719091)
There's still plenty of talent for the Chiefs to get, they've done a good job this year so I'll trust them a bit more on talent evaluations.

UDFA's should be interesting.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2008 12:21 PM

The one thing about Carr, is that at the very least he can't tackle worse than Law.

chiefs1111 04-27-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 4719100)
Side note.

Who's draft outside of KC do you like the best ?

I really like what the lions and titans have done,ha ha

Basileus777 04-27-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 4719100)
Side note.

Who's draft outside of KC do you like the best ?

I like Pittsburgh's.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 4719100)
Side note.

Who's draft outside of KC do you like the best ?

Pittsburgh, hands down. Dallas #3, but I hated the Felix Jones choice.

alnorth 04-27-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 4719101)
Should we really be surprised?????

I was making a stupidly obvious observation, going for that "you are so dumb that even reeruns make fun of you" humor.

chiefs1111 04-27-2008 12:23 PM

hmmm apparently Herm really wanted Brandon Carr,he must know something I hope

Mecca 04-27-2008 12:23 PM

Look the ESPN guys knew the Chiefs liked Carr.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-27-2008 12:23 PM

Tim Hightower, He was a good player for my Richmond dynasty.

Reaper16 04-27-2008 12:24 PM

Don't get down about the Carr pick. I've seen him play multiple times; he's a good athlete with good coverage instincts.


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