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KChiefs1 09-02-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13705354)
That was the best homestand we've had in a while. 7-1.


Should have been playing the young guys all along.

Bufkin 09-02-2018 04:03 PM

Gordo continuing that push to .250 with 3 hits today.

BigCatDaddy 09-02-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 13705428)
Gordo continuing that push to .250 with 3 hits today.

He is probably going to be 2 WAR player which is about what most figured at this point. It was shit between his contract signing and now that was unexpecteded regardless of what revisionist say now.

tk13 09-02-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13705412)
Should have been playing the young guys all along.

Some of it is just part of the learning curve though. Guys like Dozier and Mondesi have definitely made adjustments and are looking better. Junis started great, had a terrible stretch and looks like he's turned it around.

duncan_idaho 09-02-2018 05:51 PM

Re: trading Merrifield, his value has to be similar to Adam Eaton’s when the White Sox moved him. Whit is older but the years of control are the same, and he’s cheaper.

That means a top 25 prospect and a top 50 prospect are the asking price.

Discuss Thrower 09-02-2018 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13705559)
Re: trading Merrifield, his value has to be similar to Adam Eaton’s when the White Sox moved him. Whit is older but the years of control are the same, and he’s cheaper.

That means a top 25 prospect and a top 50 prospect are the asking price.

That seems like a tall ask considering how prospects are being valued.

Great Expectations 09-02-2018 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13705129)
Some lady had a sign "Whit makes us a Merri Field"

wtf?

It’s weird how some people have emotions

OKchiefs 09-02-2018 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13705559)
Re: trading Merrifield, his value has to be similar to Adam Eaton’s when the White Sox moved him. Whit is older but the years of control are the same, and he’s cheaper.

That means a top 25 prospect and a top 50 prospect are the asking price.

Seems a little much to me. Just ask for two top 100 picks and another lottery pick.

dlphg9 09-02-2018 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13705614)
Seems a little much to me. Just ask for two top 100 picks and another lottery pick.

Good thing no one was asking you. That'd be giving him away. He's had 2 really good years and this year is shaping up to be a very very good year. There aren't many really good 2B. You're such an idiot.

tk13 09-02-2018 07:54 PM

I think the Adam Eaton trade is a good call. Merrifield might be slightly older, but he's way more versatile. He can play every position on the field. He also hits for more power, steals more bases and hits for a better average.

If you're giving up 4 years of that for 6 of someone else you better get 2, if not 3, really solid prospects. Honestly I'd want three. You're giving up 4 years of a guy who can hit 40 doubles, 20 HR and 30 SB while hitting for a .300 average.

Sure-Oz 09-02-2018 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13705559)
Re: trading Merrifield, his value has to be similar to Adam Eaton’s when the White Sox moved him. Whit is older but the years of control are the same, and he’s cheaper.

That means a top 25 prospect and a top 50 prospect are the asking price.

I assume he gets dealt at the winter meetings? I'm hoping someone meets that price or offers multiple under 100 prospects

Titty Meat 09-02-2018 10:39 PM

I read that The Royals will lose 16 mil this season. Hard to imagine the class family not trimming the salary going forward.

OKchiefs 09-02-2018 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13705688)
Good thing no one was asking you. That'd be giving him away. He's had 2 really good years and this year is shaping up to be a very very good year. There aren't many really good 2B. You're such an idiot.

And you're not very nice

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-02-2018 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13705559)
Re: trading Merrifield, his value has to be similar to Adam Eaton’s when the White Sox moved him. Whit is older but the years of control are the same, and he’s cheaper.

That means a top 25 prospect and a top 50 prospect are the asking price.

Not anymore. The perceived value of prospects has grown significantly even in the last two years. Prospects are tremendously overvalued at this point, and it wouldn't surprise me if all you could get for him are two top 50-ish guys, which isn't enough.

Although relievers aren't worth as much and volatile, the Padres traded Brad Hand (who has two years of control+an option year) and Adam Cimber (5.5 years of control) for Mejia after he had slipped down to the 21st rated prospect at midseason. That's 8.5 years of control for a catcher with real concerns about staying behind the plate.

tk13 09-02-2018 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13705845)
Not anymore. The perceived value of prospects has grown significantly even in the last two years. Prospects are tremendously overvalued at this point, and it wouldn't surprise me if all you could get for him are two top 50-ish guys, which isn't enough.

Although relievers aren't worth as much and volatile, the Padres traded Brad Hand (who has two years of control+an option year) and Adam Cimber (5.5 years of control) for Mejia after he had slipped down to the 21st rated prospect at midseason. That's 8.5 years of control for a catcher with real concerns about staying behind the plate.

I think that's 100% why Whit wasn't traded at the deadline. Nobody wants to trade anything of value away anymore. That's why I was amazed Dayton even got what he did for Moustakas and Herrera. I was stunned he got two potential major league players for Moustakas. Especially one who was a top 100 prospect at the beginning of the year. I think even at the winter meetings he's going to probably have issues unloading Whit. It'll take matching up with a team who for some reason is really eager to get him. 10 years ago a team like the Dodgers and Yankees would unload their farm system for veterans. Now they refuse to get rid of any of their top guys.

duncan_idaho 09-03-2018 06:54 AM

Getting a team to pay the price the Royals would need to move Merrifield will absolutely be a challenge.

You have to find the partner that NEEDS him. And that might not exist.

But the price should also absolutely be in the neighborhood of what the Nats got for Eaton or what the Marlins got for Christian Yelich.

RealSNR 09-03-2018 11:54 AM

If prospect values are through the roof, just keep Whit.

Four years of control. I know if you’re going to suck, then go all out, but it really helps the rebuild process to have at least one sturdy, dependable vet who does it all.

tk13 09-03-2018 03:11 PM

Watching a bit of the first game of this Cubs/Brewers series, it's been a playoff type game. Was watching the 9th inning, Royals all over the field. Zobrist was at the plate, Jeffress on the mound, Moose and Cain on defense and Terrance Gore was pinch running for the Cubs.

Why Not? 09-03-2018 03:24 PM

O'Hearn has a shot to out homer Hosmer this season.

KChiefs1 09-03-2018 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13706466)
Watching a bit of the first game of this Cubs/Brewers series, it's been a playoff type game. Was watching the 9th inning, Royals all over the field. Zobrist was at the plate, Jeffress on the mound, Moose and Cain on defense and Terrance Gore was pinch running for the Cubs.


Brewers win!!!!!!

tk13 09-03-2018 03:32 PM

Holy crap. Again. O'Hearn is a monster. Him and Dozier are locked in right now.

Demonpenz 09-03-2018 03:42 PM

It is nice to see Ohearn and Dozier look like they have seen a salad bar and weight room. Moose and Butler could ball but they looked like shit. y

siberian khatru 09-03-2018 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13706466)
Watching a bit of the first game of this Cubs/Brewers series, it's been a playoff type game. Was watching the 9th inning, Royals all over the field. Zobrist was at the plate, Jeffress on the mound, Moose and Cain on defense and Terrance Gore was pinch running for the Cubs.

Erik Kratz was playing too

Why Not? 09-03-2018 03:48 PM

Um, I think first base is locked up for next year.

Prison Bitch 09-03-2018 03:55 PM

Mondesi = poor man's Lindor

zigbazah 09-03-2018 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 13706547)
It is nice to see Ohearn and Dozier look like they have seen a salad bar and weight room. Moose and Butler could ball but they looked like shit. y

and a hair stylist

tk13 09-03-2018 04:08 PM

And now Dozier with an absolute bomb. Our infielders are on fire.

tk13 09-03-2018 04:10 PM

The Royals are now the only team in baseball to score five runs or more in 9 straight games this year. Baseball.

BigCatDaddy 09-03-2018 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13706611)
The Royals are now the only team in baseball to score five runs or more in 9 straight games this year. Baseball.

But but but we are like a decade away from competing!

OKchiefs 09-03-2018 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13706620)
But but but we are like a decade away from competing!

You're incredibly delusional if you think this past week has changed our outlook at all. We're still losing 90+ next year.

Prison Bitch 09-03-2018 04:47 PM

Why was Ian Kennedy allowed into the Whit dogpile sat PM? Why didn't they shove him back towards the dugout, he's contributed jack squat

Bufkin 09-03-2018 04:50 PM

It’s probably short lived, but man O’Hearn can hit the long ball. Here’s to hoping the bullpen forget they’re the Royals and don’t screw up a 5-0 gem by Junis.

Chiefspants 09-03-2018 04:51 PM

There it is. Encouraging game for the future today.

KChiefs1 09-03-2018 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 13706701)
It’s probably short lived, but man O’Hearn can hit the long ball. Here’s to hoping the bullpen forget they’re the Royals and don’t screw up a 5-0 gem by Junis.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8d90f202c7.jpg

tk13 09-03-2018 04:57 PM

Junis is pitching well too. Over his last 6 starts:

3-1 record, 38 IP, 30 H, 5 BB, 39 K, 1.89 ERA

KChiefs1 09-03-2018 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13706498)
O'Hearn has a shot to out homer Hosmer this season.



13 to 9 now.

KChiefs1 09-03-2018 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13706564)
Um, I think first base is locked up for next year.


For a few years.

BWillie 09-03-2018 05:51 PM

OHearn is not this good. Not even close. Baseball is a funny game.

BWillie 09-03-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13706564)
Um, I think first base is locked up for next year.

Soler better be the DH, then.

Chiefspants 09-03-2018 06:03 PM

Meanwhile, in former Royal now Padre news today.

Wil Myers trashed talked his manager (Andy Green) on a live video game stream for making the team do extra defensive drills last night, and there's rumors Eric Hosmer got in a screaming match with Andy in the locker room recently.

Why Not? 09-03-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13706846)
Soler better be the DH, then.

I would think that's the plan

FringeNC 09-03-2018 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13706842)
OHearn is not this good. Not even close. Baseball is a funny game.

Yep, for sure. But his performance is not meaningless. Before this, based on his terrible year at AAA, he was a non-prospect. Now, there is an outside chance he's a .750-.800 OPS guy for us next year.

BigCatDaddy 09-03-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 13706970)
Yep, for sure. But his performance is not meaningless. Before this, based on his terrible year at AAA, he was a non-prospect. Now, there is an outside chance he's a .750-.800 OPS guy for us next year.

He can provide the same numbers as Hos did.

BigCatDaddy 09-03-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13706846)
Soler better be the DH, then.

Boni. Soler will play RF.

Prison Bitch 09-03-2018 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13706867)
Meanwhile, in former Royal now Padre news today.

Wil Myers trashed talked his manager (Andy Green) on a live video game stream for making the team do extra defensive drills last night, and there's rumors Eric Hosmer got in a screaming match with Andy in the locker room recently.

Did we ever dodge a 135M bullet

Chiefspants 09-03-2018 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13707044)
Did we ever dodge a 135M bullet

It’s interesting to look back at Wil’s trade now in retrospect.

Padres fans are very frustrated with Wil, apparently the defensive practice was made after he made three errors in one game. He’s developed a reputation of getting “bored” and taking multiple games off per season. Fans were hoping he’d blossom into a “team leader” with his 80m deal. But he’s openly said he’s not that type of player (leading in large part to Hos’ deal).

suzzer99 09-03-2018 08:17 PM

Is the TV contract renewal this offseason? If so finishing strong with a lot of promising young players could help.

suzzer99 09-03-2018 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13707093)
It’s interesting to look back at Wil’s trade now in retrospect.

Padres fans are very frustrated with Wil, apparently the defensive practice after he made three errors in one game. He’s developed a reputation of getting “bored” and taking multiple games off per season. Fans were hoping he’d blossom into a “team leader” with his 80m deal. But he’s openly said he’s not that type of player (leading in large part to Hos’ deal).

I always kind of felt like he swung out of his shoes going for personal glory over the unselfish base hit.

Prison Bitch 09-03-2018 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 13707094)
Is the TV contract renewal this offseason? If so finishing strong with a lot of promising young players could help.

Studies show performance doesn't matter

suzzer99 09-03-2018 08:52 PM

Bullshit - that's just posturing. No one believes that.

Studies show... just about anything. Is beef good or bad for me in 2018? I forget.

tk13 09-03-2018 09:08 PM

The TV contract runs out after next year. There's been reports that negotiations for a new one have started happening but nothing concrete yet. I imagine the benefits will kick in after next year. But I also think that's a huge reason why Dayton keeps trying to put out the idea that they're planning to compete next year. They don't want to go into multi million dollar negotiations saying "oh yeah! we're not going to compete until 2021!"

BigCatDaddy 09-03-2018 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13707093)
It’s interesting to look back at Wil’s trade now in retrospect.

Padres fans are very frustrated with Wil, apparently the defensive practice was made after he made three errors in one game. He’s developed a reputation of getting “bored” and taking multiple games off per season. Fans were hoping he’d blossom into a “team leader” with his 80m deal. But he’s openly said he’s not that type of player (leading in large part to Hos’ deal).

Shocking.

tk13 09-03-2018 11:39 PM

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suzzer99 09-04-2018 12:20 AM

Hey **** you Andy - when was he last Dodgers WS win? How's being a small fish in a big pond working out for you?

TomBarndtsTwin 09-04-2018 08:49 AM

Hmmm . . . . .

Royals go to game 7 in 2014 W.S. and lose. (29 years after last W.S. Title)

Dodgers repeat the Royals feat in 2017. (also 29 years after their last W.S. Title)

In 2015, Royals return and win it all.


Your move, Dodgers . . . . . .

Fish 09-04-2018 09:14 AM

LOL...

https://i.imgur.com/YFKUm25.jpg

TomBarndtsTwin 09-04-2018 09:34 AM

BUT LEADERSHIP AND STUFF!!!!

SuperBowl4 09-04-2018 09:35 AM

The ROYALS are peaking at just the right time making a run for a wildcard spot. Stay tuned. :Royals:

Prison Bitch 09-04-2018 09:43 AM

Whit has been worth 68.8m to the Royals, has made 1.5m


Ian Kennedy has been worth 14.9m. Paid 37m, with another 33m to go



Question: how does Whit even look at this guy in the locker room? Doesn't he just want to viciously beat his ass? It's so unfair

Titty Meat 09-04-2018 09:56 AM

Hosmer is such a douche

Why Not? 09-04-2018 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 13707766)
The ROYALS are peaking at just the right time making a run for a wildcard spot. Stay tuned. :Royals:

Um, I think you may want to take a math refresher.

Pitt Gorilla 09-04-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13707781)
Whit has been worth 68.8m to the Royals, has made 1.5m


Ian Kennedy has been worth 14.9m. Paid 37m, with another 33m to go



Question: how does Whit even look at this guy in the locker room? Doesn't he just want to viciously beat his ass? It's so unfair

Hated the Kennedy contract at the time; hate it even more now. Hopefully, Dayton learns something from this mess.

dlphg9 09-04-2018 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13708487)
Hated the Kennedy contract at the time; hate it even more now. Hopefully, Dayton learns something from this mess.

Dayton's a ****ing idiot. He won't learn shit

Prison Bitch 09-04-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13708545)
Dayton's a ****ing idiot. He won't learn shit

Ok then.

Prison Bitch 09-04-2018 06:59 PM

So I read today Dyson was suspended 50 games in 2009 while in the minors for using amphetamines.


I guess that's what speed do.

Pitt Gorilla 09-04-2018 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13708868)
So I read today Dyson was suspended 50 games in 2009 while in the minors for using amphetamines.


I guess that's what speed do.

hey-oh!

Al Bundy 09-04-2018 09:40 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a>&#39; Duffy says he&#39;s done for the season after exiting Tuesday&#39;s start with shoulder soreness --&gt; <a href="https://t.co/OorrTWiF4c">https://t.co/OorrTWiF4c</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports Kansas City (@FSKansasCity) <a href="https://twitter.com/FSKansasCity/status/1037182765433847808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Prison Bitch 09-04-2018 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13709134)
hey-oh!

I made up another one today:

Yuni-Esky

Fish 09-04-2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 13709157)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a>&#39; Duffy says he&#39;s done for the season after exiting Tuesday&#39;s start with shoulder soreness --&gt; <a href="https://t.co/OorrTWiF4c">https://t.co/OorrTWiF4c</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports Kansas City (@FSKansasCity) <a href="https://twitter.com/FSKansasCity/status/1037182765433847808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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:eek:

Sure-Oz 09-04-2018 10:24 PM

So much for Duffy's trade value

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OKchiefs 09-04-2018 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13709203)
So much for Duffy's trade value

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He ruined any trade value a long time ago by being wildly inconsistent and undependable.

Prison Bitch 09-05-2018 07:10 AM

Dec 2017. Ahem:

Ain't about the DUI, it's the elbow. He had TJ in June 2012, and the average recurrence is 4.97 years later. He just passed that date.


His 5/65 was heavily backloaded too. He got 5 this year, with 4/60 left. Given his TJ risk and heavy salary, he's a great bet to be dead money in the future.
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Bufkin 09-05-2018 12:35 PM

Alcides Escobar hits like a National League pitcher, isn’t that fast anymore, and now isn’t a great fielder.

Legacy completely killed, which is unfortunate.

Bufkin 09-05-2018 01:28 PM

Also, Ned is an inept piece of shit. Keller had a 7 inning gem but of course Ned throws him out for the 8th when he’s clearly done. Nice job ruining an otherwise beautiful start.

BigCatDaddy 09-05-2018 01:57 PM

So I guess Keller is about 20 innings shy of being eligible for the leader board or he would be a top 8 guy in the AL in ERA. Well done, Dayton.

Titty Meat 09-05-2018 02:01 PM

Since the team is in the red again my guess is they try and dump Duffy. Might be a good call with his health concerns and drug abuse issues.

OKchiefs 09-05-2018 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13709977)
Since the team is in the red again my guess is they try and dump Duffy. Might be a good call with his health concerns and drug abuse issues.

Dump him for what, a bag of peanuts?

RealSNR 09-05-2018 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13709979)
Dump him for what, a bag of peanuts?



Dump him like a ****ing lunatic girlfriend

Titty Meat 09-05-2018 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13709979)
Dump him for what, a bag of peanuts?

I'm not sure it matters at this point dude. The Royals lost 16 million this year and lost millions the past few years. I got alot of heat for this but KC is a fairweather baseball town. They arent winning anything with Duffy and by the time they do he won't be any good. Dump him now take fire from the fans who arent going to the ballpark anyway.

ROYC75 09-05-2018 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13707870)
Um, I think you may want to take a math refresher.

Uh, change the battery in your meter!


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