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Wisconsin_Chief 03-06-2023 07:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16831106)
Look at the rosters for that 2019 'Bama/LSU game. Wow.

Offense:

QB: Burrow and Tua (And Mac Jones)
RB: Najee Harris, Brian Robinson, MEH
WR: HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Okay, I've composed myself: Justin Jefferson, Ja'Marr Chase, Terrace Marshall, DeVonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy, Henry Ruggs, Jaylen Waddle
OL: Saahdiq Charles, Damien Lewis, Lloyd Cushenberry, Jedrick Wills, Evan Neal, Alex Leatherwood, Landon Dickerson, Ed Ingram

Defense: Xavier McKinney, K'Lavon Chaisson, Trevon Diggs, Patrick Queen, Raekwon Davis, Patrick Surtain II, Jalyn Armour-Davis, Grant Delpit, Christian Barmore, Kristian Fulton, Derek Stingley Jr, Damone Clark, Phidarian Mathis

I mean the damn KICKER is in the NFL and is really good - Cade York.

There's no way there's ever been that much talent on a single college football field, is there? Holy hell - that's friggen nuts.
That WR core is absolutely disgusting, my God.

Womble 03-06-2023 07:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16840508)
Actually, I just can't understand why anyone's caterwauling about CEH deciding to attend the show vs. the parade. He's a grown man, he can make decisions for himself.
Willingly attending a fashion show should be a capital offense.

Megatron96 03-06-2023 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16840541)
Willingly attending a fashion show should be a capital offense.
Meh, anything is possible. He could've had a friend/family member involved in the thing. I dated a girl years ago that was working in the PHX Fashion Week thing, ended up going to part of it. Hated it, but she was pretty hot.

Chris Meck 03-06-2023 08:13 PM
Sure, Brett. Here's one ham sandwich on rye. Thanks!

Megatron96 03-06-2023 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16840541)
Willingly attending a fashion show should be a capital offense.
I can't disagree about the feeling. It sucked. I didn't even stay all that long, but I couldn't have been more uncomfortable/bored.

Pitt Gorilla 03-06-2023 08:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16840536)
He's shit and no team realistically would want to give up draft capital and take on his contract. At least we could get his $2.7m salary off our books.
I'm not sure ANY of that is true.

Rain Man 03-06-2023 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16840541)
Willingly attending a fashion show should be a capital offense.
Sometimes you can see breasts.

Chris Meck 03-06-2023 10:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16840541)
Willingly attending a fashion show should be a capital offense.
I've done production on DOZENS.

Granted, I was being paid well to be there, but it's not that bad. Usually a lot of eye candy. Way better than corporate CEO worship shows. That's some soul sucking shit right there.

Chris Meck 03-06-2023 10:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16840756)
Sometimes you can see breasts.
Indeed.

Especially when you are working behind the curtains.

Dunerdr 03-07-2023 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16840756)
Sometimes you can see breasts.
This is very much frowned on at NFL Films.

Rain Man 03-07-2023 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16841309)
This is very much frowned on at NFL Films.
As Romeo Crennel once said, I won't know until I study the video.

TLO 04-26-2023 03:28 PM
So is he going to be RB #2 this season?

AdolfOliverBush 04-26-2023 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Brett Statue (Post 16917623)
So is he going to be RB #2 this season?
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FloridaMan88 04-26-2023 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Brett Statue (Post 16917623)
So is he going to be RB #2 this season?
For another team not named the Chiefs hopefully.

Rasputin 04-26-2023 03:44 PM
I wish him well in his career in fashion.

FlaChief58 04-26-2023 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16917638)
For another team not named the Chiefs hopefully.
^ THIS

Megatron96 04-26-2023 05:34 PM
I didn't believe it before, but I think CEH is probably going to be traded to ARI when we trade them our 2nd for DHop. Apparently, ARI does have some need for a RB in a rotational role that can pass-pro and catch passes.

Womble 04-26-2023 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14928613)
Stupid ass pick.
Just letting you know that I upvoted this comment. What a ****ing stupid ass pick.

RedinTexas 04-26-2023 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16917794)
I didn't believe it before, but I think CEH is probably going to be traded to ARI when we trade them our 2nd for DHop. Apparently, ARI does have some need for a RB in a rotational role that can pass-pro and catch passes.
Helaire can catch passes?

Megatron96 04-26-2023 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 16917808)
Helaire can catch passes?
He actually has decent hands, catches the ball with his hands, instead of trapping the ball against his chest plate, and can run some decent routes, as long as they aren't deep.

RedinTexas 04-26-2023 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16917824)
He actually has decent hands, catches the ball with his hands, instead of trapping the ball against his chest plate, and can run some decent routes, as long as they aren't deep.
I recall reading that Helaire was going to be great when we drafted him because he could catch passes out of the backfield, but it seems like it has been a rarity in his career.

crispystl 04-26-2023 06:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 16917827)
I recall reading that Helaire was going to be great when we drafted him because he could catch passes out of the backfield, but it seems like it has been a rarity in his career.
He prefers to catch them with the back of his helmet.

Megatron96 04-26-2023 06:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 16917827)
I recall reading that Helaire was going to be great when we drafted him because he could catch passes out of the backfield, but it seems like it has been a rarity in his career.
Statistically, he caught 72 balls on 100 targets in his time as a Chief so far. 18 TDs combined. In Andy's offense, that's not bad.

And injuries cost him some production. But as far as I could tell, his biggest issue was lack of size/length. He has a small catch radius. Some passes were simply too tall, or they were outside his reach.

But yeah, I was among those that had high hopes for Clyde in the passing game at first. He showed good hands and decent route-running skills in college, but at the NFL level that lack of size and speed shrunk his catch radius to the point that it made it kind of like Pat trying to thread needles while DLs were trying to smash him. Not ideal.

MIAdragon 04-26-2023 07:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16917824)
He actually has decent hands, when he’s not catching the ball with his helmet, instead of trapping the ball against his chest plate, and can run some decent routes, as long as they aren't deep.
Exactly

notorious 04-26-2023 07:51 PM
He's a viable 3rd string back. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Skyy God 04-26-2023 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16917794)
I didn't believe it before, but I think CEH is probably going to be traded to ARI when we trade them our 2nd for DHop. Apparently, ARI does have some need for a RB in a rotational role that can pass-pro and catch passes.
We’re not trading for that guy.

Megatron96 04-26-2023 07:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by unBelizable (Post 16917963)
We’re not trading for that guy.
But we are.:thumb:

srvy 04-26-2023 11:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 16917808)
Helaire can catch passes?
News to me. Pat completely quit looking his way even when he was uncovered out of the backfield in the flat. It was disgusting when Pat would lob one perfectly over his shoulder and he stumbles over his own feet trying to catch it. Had to be an equilibrium problem.

Bob Dole 04-27-2023 06:49 AM
I've been listening to talking heads babble about the draft this week and relative to the CEH pick, I find this recurring thing hilarious.

"You don't take a RB in the first round."

"RB x is a second round talent."

The last pick in the first is the same as a pick in the second. Just stop it.

-King- 04-27-2023 07:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 16918338)
I've been listening to talking heads babble about the draft this week and relative to the CEH pick, I find this recurring thing hilarious.

"You don't take a RB in the first round."

"RB x is a second round talent."

The last pick in the first is the same as a pick in the second. Just stop it.
The 5th year option exists for 1st round picks. BIG difference.

tredadda 04-27-2023 07:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16918358)
The 5th year option exists for 1st round picks. BIG difference.
Yes it is, but at the same time with the way the CBA is laid out, if the player makes a Pro Bowl, their 5th yar option becomes much more expensive. Still better to have it than not though, especially if that player is solid, but not a Pro Bowler.

ChiefsCountry 04-27-2023 08:37 AM
Shows how well we have drafted when CEH is considered a bust among the fan base.

Mecca 04-27-2023 08:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16918465)
Shows how well we have drafted when CEH is considered a bust among the fan base.
Would any fan base not consider him a bust?

Womble 04-27-2023 08:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16918469)
Would any fan base not consider him a bust?
Would probably go down as one of the all time great 1st round picks for the Raiders.

TribalElder 04-27-2023 09:29 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="art" dir="ltr">��</p>&mdash; GLYDE (@Clydro_22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Clydro_22/status/1651601713353072644?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:hmmm:

Mecca 04-27-2023 09:43 AM
He deleted it already!

Maybe he's broken up about Jerry Springer?

carcosa 04-27-2023 09:45 AM
I feel bad 4 Clyde tbh

Pepe Silvia 04-27-2023 09:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16918606)
I feel bad 4 Clyde tbh
Sean Payton’s bounty ended his career.

bigjosh 04-27-2023 10:03 AM
This shortly after the clyde post

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chiefforlife 04-27-2023 10:20 AM
I really hope we traded him!

If Veach manages to get a pick for him, he will have redeemed this pick!

Also if he picks Gibbs it will show enormous balls!

dannybcaitlyn 04-27-2023 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16918674)
This shortly after the clyde post

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Won the Super Bowl and killed all the content for his podcast.

The Franchise 04-27-2023 10:30 AM
Ship that asshole to Arizona.

Skyy God 04-27-2023 10:35 AM
RIP MEH.

I will miss him leaving yards on the field due to incredibly poor field vision.

Direckshun 04-27-2023 11:01 AM
I think a 2nd is too much for Dhop, but a 3rd, for CEH, in exchange for DHop if the Cardinals eat some of his salary?

I have a really hard time saying no to that. I think that makes sense for all three parties, gives Clyde a new start somewhere else, and puts the Chiefs firmly in pole position for the AFCCG prior to the draft.

crispystl 04-27-2023 11:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16918485)
Would probably go down as one of the all time great 1st round picks for the Raiders.
Yeah, at this point their bar for success is at "still on the team"

Iconic 04-27-2023 11:20 AM
Wonder what CEH value is right now as a stand alone. He did have that one all-purpose thousand yard season and he's still only 24. It would be a bit like turning water into wine but I figure if anyone could flip CEH for a late 2nd/mid 3rd it would be Bertus Vrist.

Wonder if he would be apart of that rumored package to move up in the draft this year.

The Franchise 04-27-2023 11:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16918861)
Wonder what CEH value is right now as a stand alone. He did have that one all-purpose thousand yard season and he's still only 24. It would be a bit like turning water into wine but I figure if anyone could flip CEH for a late 2nd/mid 3rd it would be Bertus Vrist.

Wonder if he would be apart of that rumored package to move up in the draft this year.
LMAO The most you'd get for CEH is like a 6th round pick. He plays a position that isn't highly valued and already has an injury history.

-King- 04-27-2023 11:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16918861)
Wonder what CEH value is right now as a stand alone. He did have that one all-purpose thousand yard season and he's still only 24. It would be a bit like turning water into wine but I figure if anyone could flip CEH for a late 2nd/mid 3rd it would be Bertus Vrist.

Wonder if he would be apart of that rumored package to move up in the draft this year.
They'd shut down the league and investigate Veach for blackmail if he was able to get that for CEH.

If he got a conditional 6th/7th I'd consider it a good deal.

Iconic 04-27-2023 11:44 AM
Hey man the Cards got Dhop for David Johnson and some change. All we need is a Bill O’Brien to fleece. But yeah you guys are probably right, although I think a 4th isn't unreasonable either.

Rain Man 04-27-2023 11:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16918900)
They'd shut down the league and investigate Veach for blackmail if he was able to get that for CEH.

If he got a conditional 6th/7th I'd consider it a good deal.
I'm pretty sure the league knows that Veach is a warlock with supernatural personnel powers.

notorious 04-27-2023 11:51 AM
If you included CEH in a trade package it might run the other team off.

Iconic 04-27-2023 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16918914)
If you included CEH in a trade package it might run the other team off.
LMAO

Womble 04-27-2023 01:18 PM
To paraphrase King James II: Will no one rid me of this turbulent JAG?

BigBeauford 04-27-2023 01:22 PM
I'd be sad going to Arizona too.

T-post Tom 04-27-2023 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16918566)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="art" dir="ltr">��</p>&mdash; GLYDE (@Clydro_22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Clydro_22/status/1651601713353072644?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:hmmm:
His flight to Belize was cancelled. :D

MVChiefFan 04-27-2023 07:54 PM
He ripped his fancy, heart-shaped britches right before he hit the catwalk.

Bump 04-28-2023 01:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16918465)
Shows how well we have drafted when CEH is considered a bust among the fan base.
we have drafted well ya. I think he's just a bust though, like he pretty much ****ing sucks and is slower than most centers.

scho63 04-28-2023 04:35 AM
Is he still alive?

Iconic 05-01-2023 05:51 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Friendly reminder: Clyde Edwards-Helaire doesn’t meet any of the criteria (Pro Bowls or snap count percentages) for a boosted fifth-year option value. <br><br>His 2024 fully-GTD price tag would come in at just under $5.5 million. <br><br>The Chiefs’ deadline to make a decision is tomorrow. <a href="https://t.co/iEZXnGAGXp">pic.twitter.com/iEZXnGAGXp</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Foote (@footenoted) <a href="https://twitter.com/footenoted/status/1653080543674630144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is this turd worth 5m

tredadda 05-01-2023 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16929521)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Friendly reminder: Clyde Edwards-Helaire doesn’t meet any of the criteria (Pro Bowls or snap count percentages) for a boosted fifth-year option value. <br><br>His 2024 fully-GTD price tag would come in at just under $5.5 million. <br><br>The Chiefs’ deadline to make a decision is tomorrow. <a href="https://t.co/iEZXnGAGXp">pic.twitter.com/iEZXnGAGXp</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Foote (@footenoted) <a href="https://twitter.com/footenoted/status/1653080543674630144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is this turd worth 5m
Not sure picking up the 5th year option for a guy who's realistically going to be our third string RB is a good idea.

Iconic 05-01-2023 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16929523)
Not sure picking up the 5th year option for a guy who's realistically going to be our third string RB is a good idea.
*cut/traded

Hammock Parties 05-01-2023 05:59 PM
clyde stans are the worst

you'd think he did something in the NFL

4 100-yard games in 3 season, all in his first two years

JAG

Wisconsin_Chief 05-01-2023 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16929521)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Friendly reminder: Clyde Edwards-Helaire doesn’t meet any of the criteria (Pro Bowls or snap count percentages) for a boosted fifth-year option value. <br><br>His 2024 fully-GTD price tag would come in at just under $5.5 million. <br><br>The Chiefs’ deadline to make a decision is tomorrow. <a href="https://t.co/iEZXnGAGXp">pic.twitter.com/iEZXnGAGXp</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Foote (@footenoted) <a href="https://twitter.com/footenoted/status/1653080543674630144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is this turd worth 5m
Zero chance they pick up his 5th year.

Bowser 05-01-2023 06:06 PM
He started the season off hot with three receiving touchdowns, but apparently couldn't hold off Pacheco. That nasty ankle sprain cost him this year, big time.

All of CEH's injuries have occurred late-ish in the season, too.

Red Dawg 05-01-2023 06:07 PM
He is not worth that 5th year option at all. That 4 times what Pdawg gets and he put him on the bench.

Megatron96 05-01-2023 06:18 PM
Veach just said that he saw CEH in the building today and that he looked ready to go. Got a feeling that Clyde' going to be a Chief in 2023, one last chance to be successful somehow.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-01-2023 06:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16929546)
Veach just said that he saw CEH in the building today and that he looked ready to go. Got a feeling that Clyde' going to be a Chief in 2023, one last chance to be successful somehow.
CEH is not as bad as CP makes him out to be. He needs to stay healthy.

Still wish my dream of drafting Gibbs would have come true.

ralittleus 05-01-2023 06:22 PM
can they negotiate that salary or is thast guaranteed

Megatron96 05-01-2023 06:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16929549)
CEH is not as bad as CP makes him out to be. He needs to stay healthy.

Still wish my dream of drafting Gibbs would have come true.
He's small for an NFL RB, but the dagger is that he lacks burst. if he had burst similar to Gibbs he'd have been a lot more productive.

kysirsoze 05-01-2023 06:36 PM
Clyde needing to go might be the most united CP has ever been.

(Other than the divinity of Patrick Mahomes)

BossChief 05-01-2023 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16929546)
Veach just said that he saw CEH in the building today and that he looked ready to go. Got a feeling that Clyde' going to be a Chief in 2023, one last chance to be successful somehow.
He’s got to build value for a trade.

Rainbarrel 05-01-2023 06:42 PM
Clyde has a nice beard

FlaChief58 05-01-2023 06:46 PM
We get rid of this piece of shit yet

Iconic 05-01-2023 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 16929569)
Clyde has a nice beard
do u have no shame?

10 day ban at minimum for saying anything nice about clyde.

TwistedChief 05-01-2023 06:51 PM
Complain about Clyde at Fashion Week but Mahomes is the one tonight at the Met Gala reppin' a Karl Lagerfeld theme.

(I imagine most of you have no clue what that means but it's basically the highest fashion honor party with a theme of the highest fashion honor.)

mdchiefsfan 05-01-2023 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 16929563)
Clyde needing to go might be the most united CP has ever been.

(Other than the divinity of Patrick Mahomes)
The opinion of Matt Cassel was pretty unanimous as well, but Clyde is certain at the top of the list.

Buehler445 05-01-2023 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16929576)
Complain about Clyde at Fashion Week but Mahomes is the one tonight at the Met Gala reppin' a Karl Lagerfeld theme.

(I imagine most of you have no clue what that means but it's basically the highest fashion honor party with a theme of the highest fashion honor.)
Thanks for saving me a google ROFL

Chiefspants 05-01-2023 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16929538)
He started the season off hot with three receiving touchdowns, but apparently couldn't hold off Pacheco. That nasty ankle sprain cost him this year, big time.

All of CEH's injuries have occurred late-ish in the season, too.
I always thought his running style invited brutality in an unsustainable way for his size. On at least two of his injuries (including his first against the Saints, before which I’d argue he had NFL level burst) came on hits where he initiated the contact.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-01-2023 07:50 PM
Jesus Christ ! I just realized we got "RAMPAGE" 2.0 . A Pacheco clone on the roster.

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Brody Wa 05-01-2023 07:57 PM
Casshole is much higher on my shit list than CEH. Nobody hired a airplane to fly a banner around Arrowhead to bench CEH.


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