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tredadda 05-24-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957120)
Benefits the NBA's bottomline more than anybody's. The league can't afford to break that relationship and wants to expressly avoid another Darryl Morey situation. LeBron falls in line and MJ would have done the same.

Were you an Alex Smith fan and supporter?

DJ's left nut 05-24-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16957105)
That's the real Lebron.

The asshole in the situation with the cop is the real Lebron.

Lebron telling all his haters that it's all good because they're brok and got to work a 9-5 (like his stans) is the real Lebron.

The dude that made up a hate crime to earn public sympathy is the Real Lebron.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16957134)
He wouldn't have as a player either, MJ was about maximizing his cash flow.

Of course and they all know this. MJ is the most amoral businessman there could ever be.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16957137)
Were you an Alex Smith fan and supporter?

No?

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 16957136)
Thought it was triple teamed. Keep your story straight please.

It was a soft triple, but Murray was the double who changed the play.

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Did MJs wizards have an AD to be their best player?
AD wasn't their best player against Denver and that's why they got swept.

staylor26 05-24-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16957138)
The dude that made up a hate crime to earn public sympathy is the Real Lebron.

Never anything on that ay? Just his cute little convenient story and no follow up.

tredadda 05-24-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957142)
No?

Just curious as you are essentially one of them except your Alex Smith is Lebron.

Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957133)
Go look up the final three games of the 2016 Finals.

LeBron was 9 for 24 in Game 7 and ****ing deferred to Kyrie at the end. LMAO

DJ's left nut 05-24-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16957146)
Never anything on that ay? Just his cute little convenient story and no follow up.

Just had everything painted over real fast, man. Went out there with his own Wagner Power Sprayer and had it knocked out quick as a hiccup...

Megatron96 05-24-2023 01:56 PM

Oh, and wasn't it LeBron that went on TV a few years ago and announced that he was "now the GOAT"?LMAO


MJ, when asked that question, was quick to say that he never thought of himself that way or said that about himself, because he felt that there were so many great players that came before him that he didn't want to be that kind of asshole.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16957152)
LeBron was 9 for 24 in Game 7 and ****ing deferred to Kyrie at the end. LMAO

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The greatest play in NBA Finals history. MJ would never.

Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 01:57 PM

LMAO LMAO give me a ****ing break

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16957147)
Just curious as you are essentially one of them except your Alex Smith is Lebron.

Alex Smith was a league average QB and was a solid stopgap for the Chiefs while we waited to get a franchise guy. No idea what he has to do with the greatest basketball player of all time.

New World Order 05-24-2023 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957133)
Go look up the final three games of the 2016 Finals. In other words, the three greatest games ever played by any individual basketball player.

So in the final 3 minutes of game 7 he was 0-1 from the field and 1/2 free throws. Kyrie outscored him.

Is this the epic 'taking over a game' that I've been waiting for?

staylor26 05-24-2023 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16957152)
LeBron was 9 for 24 in Game 7 and ****ing deferred to Kyrie at the end. LMAO

Remember when Lebron basically demanded that the NBA suspend Draymond after he tried to step over him and bait him into a reaction?




https://i.imgur.com/fzp1boh.gif

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16957155)
Oh, and wasn't it LeBron that went on TV a few years ago and announced that he was "now the GOAT"?LMAO

Is he supposed to lie? His numbers are shattering every record in the books. The guy is averaging 30 point triple doubles in year 20. What he's doing is completely unprecedented.

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MJ, when asked that question, was quick to say that he never thought of himself that way or said that about himself, because he felt that there were so many great players that came before him that he didn't want to be that kind of asshole.
Except we all know that he is that kind of asshole and that he was lying.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16957163)
Remember when Lebron basically demanded that the NBA suspend Draymond after he tried to step over him and bait him into a reaction?




https://i.imgur.com/fzp1boh.gif

Draymond kicking multiple people in the nuts in a single postseason is what did him in, not LeBron.

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:01 PM

I love how KCC says that titles are a team accomplishment.

BUT

Lebron is the GOAT because he took down the 2016 Warriors ALL BY HIMSELF.

Let's just ignore that Kyrie was also fantastic in that series. Kyrie put up legitimate finals MVP type of numbers too, just less that Lebron.

They were both great in that series, and yea, when it came down to it, Kyrie hit the big shot.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16957162)
So in the final 3 minutes of game 7 he was 0-1 from the field and 1/2 free throws. Kyrie outscored him.

Is this the epic 'taking over a game' that I've been waiting for?

He had the block that won the game and facilitated the ball for the others in that stretch. He's always been more of a passer than a scorer, which makes it all the more funny and emblematic of his GOAT status that he's the all-time leading scorer.

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957170)
Draymond kicking multiple people in the nuts in a single postseason is what did him in, not LeBron.

Deflection.

Did Lebron not instigate it then cry like a bitch to the media to force the NBA's hand?

Like I said

https://i.imgur.com/fzp1boh.gif

New World Order 05-24-2023 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957173)
He had the block that won the game and facilitated the ball for the others in that stretch. He's always been more of a passer than a scorer, which makes it all the more funny and emblematic of his GOAT status that he's the all-time leading scorer.

So where were the assists in the closing minutes in Game 7?

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16957171)
I love how KCC says that titles are a steam accomplishment.

BUT

Lebron is the GOAT because he took down the 2016 Warriors ALL BY HIMSELF.

Let's just ignore that Kyrie was also fantastic in that series. Kyrie out of legitimate finals MVP type of numbers too, just less that Lebron.

They were both great in that series, and yea, when it came down to it, Kyrie hit the big shot.

MJ never had to take down a team as good as those Warriors. LeBron did it with three of the greatest games ever played in a row. His game 5 and 6 were absolutely absurd and he showed up when it counted in game 7 with the greatest play in NBA Finals history.

BigCatDaddy 05-24-2023 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957102)
LeBron taking the stances he does doesn't help his clout, his financial bottomline, or anything else. He could easily be a complete corporate shill who avoided anything remotely political/social like MJ was. He does it because he feels morally obligated to do so.

MJ would never.

Hong Kong Lebron?

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16957179)
So where were the assists in the closing minutes in Game 7?

As you are aware, Kyrie scored the only basket in the last 5 minutes of that game on either team. Just like earlier this week, LeBron can't help the fact that nobody was hitting shots on his passes.

During that time, LeBron was playing his regular brand of elite defense including his ridiculous, game saving block on Iggy. He then finished the game with a FT to seal it.

GOAT stuff.

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957181)
MJ never had to take down a team as good as those Warriors. LeBron did it with three of the greatest games ever played in a row. His game 5 and 6 were absolutely absurd and he showed up when it counted in game 7 with the greatest play in NBA Finals history.

Because he WAS the Warriors.

That same Warriors team should've lost to OKC the round before. They went all in to try to top the GOAT with the greatest season ever, and they clearly ran out of gas at the end and Lebron AND Kyrie were just too good.

It was his most valuable ring, but at best it cancels out 2011.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16957189)
Because he WAS the Warriors.

That same Warriors team should've lost to OK the round before. They went all in to try to top the GOAT with the greatest season ever, and they clearly ran out of gas at the end and Lebron AND Kyrie were just too good.

It was his most valuable ring, but at best it cancels out 2011.

MJ wasn't the Warriors. He needed Scottie to turn the Bulls into that. Look at his playoff track record without him.

And the 2016 ring is arguably the most impressive win in the history of basketball considering how one-sided in overall talent that series was in favor of the Warriors and how he came back from a 3-1 deficit.

Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957188)
LeBron was playing his regular brand of elite defense including his ridiculous, game saving block on Iggy. He then finished the game with a FT to seal it.

GOAT stuff.

LeBron was 0-4 from the field in the final 4:30 of that game.

GOAT stuff

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16957194)
LeBron was 0-4 from the field in the final 4:30 of that game.

GOAT stuff

LeBron hit the 3 to give the Cavs the lead with under 5 minutes to go, a lead they never relinquished due to his insane defense. The Warriors only even got 2 points the rest of the game.

MJ would never.

Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 02:13 PM

I'll never forget when he covered all five guys on defense by himself!

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957193)
MJ wasn't the Warriors. He needed Scottie to turn the Bulls into that. Look at his playoff track record without him.

And the 2016 ring is arguably the most impressive win in the history of basketball considering how one-sided in overall talent that series was in favor of the Warriors and how he came back from a 3-1 deficit.

I love how Lebron Stan's repeat this stupid ****ing talking point.

MJ needed Pippen to win 6 right?

That's what's you're going with?

Lebron needed Wade, Bosh, Allen, Kyrie, Love, and AD to win 4.

What exactly is the point a Lebron Stan is trying to make here?

Just proof how weak Lebron's actual argument is.

RunKC 05-24-2023 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16957130)
Jordan can be a prick. That's fine.

Bc he WAS a prick. Can’t imagine practicing with MJ. Dude would have caught a lot of shit in todays NBA. Hell he socked Steve Kerr in the eye he was so pissed in practice and poor little Steve didn’t do anything.

I’m sure that would have went well in the age of social media.

Practicing with MJ must have been something else. I imagine a bit like this:

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tredadda 05-24-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957160)
Alex Smith was a league average QB and was a solid stopgap for the Chiefs while we waited to get a franchise guy. No idea what he has to do with the greatest basketball player of all time.

Of course you don't see it. Point is that your vigorous defense of all things Lebron regardless is no different than theirs with Alex. It has nothing to do with each player's skillset, it has everything to do with how much their fan boys defend any and everything they did.

DJ's left nut 05-24-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957198)
LeBron hit the 3 to give the Cavs the lead with under 5 minutes to go, a lead they never relinquished due to his insane defense. The Warriors only even got 2 points the rest of the game.

MJ would never.

Michael Jordan....didn't play defense.

That's what we're going with now.

Just....wow.

I mean, he was very possible the best on-ball perimeter defender in NBA history but that's the argument we're gonna try to have right now?

Neat.

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16957207)
Bc he WAS a prick. Can’t imagine practicing with MJ. Dude would have caught a lot of shit in todays NBA. Hell he socked Steve Kerr in the eye he was so pissed in practice and poor little Steve didn’t do anything.

I’m sure that would have went well in the age of social media.

Practicing with MJ must have been something else. I imagine a bit like this:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/xDAsABdkWSc" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Maybe if Lebron had that in him he would've won in 2011 and 2014, and KCC wouldn't have to cry about the Warriors 24/7 and he'd have a legit argument as the GOAT :shrug:

Instead, he channeled his inner asshole into being a LeGM team hopper and fake social justice activist that demonizes heroic police officers :shrug:

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16957209)
Of course you don't see it. Point is that your vigorous defense of all things Lebron regardless is no different than theirs with Alex. It has nothing to do with each player's skillset, it has everything to do with how much their fan boys defend any and everything they did.

Except if LeBron wasn't the GOAT, I wouldn't defend him to this extent from those clowns who hate him exactly because of how good he is.

Same with Mahomes being the BOAT.

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16957214)
Michael Jordan....didn't play defense.

That's what we're going with now.

Just....wow.

I mean, he was very possible the best on-ball perimeter defender in NBA history but that's the argument we're gonna try to have right now?

Neat.

He claims to have watched Jordan and continuously downplays his defense. I've never even wasted my time going there with him because it's obviously futile.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16957214)
Michael Jordan....didn't play defense.

That's what we're going with now.

Just....wow.

I mean, he was very possible the best on-ball perimeter defender in NBA history but that's the argument we're gonna try to have right now?

Neat.

Nobody said MJ didn't play defense. But I don't recall a play like this from him to win the NBA Finals, do you?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/-zd62MxKXp8" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This is pure GOAT stuff.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16957227)
He claims to have watched Jordan and continuously downplays his defense. I've never even wasted my time going there with him because it doesn't even deserve it.

MJ was a fantastic defender but he didn't have the size and strength to guard the variety of positions that LeBron has in his career.

Imagine him trying to guard Jokic like LeBron was doing. Laughable.

DJ's left nut 05-24-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957228)
Nobody said MJ didn't play defense. But I don't recall a play like this from him to win the NBA Finals, do you?

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This is pure GOAT stuff.

You don't remember a remarkable defensive play from Michael Jordan to win an NBA championship?

Okay...

RunKC 05-24-2023 02:23 PM

Doesn’t matter if you like LeBron or MJ. LeBron leading his team back from 3-1 against a 73 win team will always be a historic accomplishment. That’s not really debatable.

It pretty much makes up for the biggest stain on his career that Dirk happily gave him.

Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957232)
Imagine him trying to guard Jokic like LeBron was doing. Laughable.

i'll never forget that time lebron shut down jokic and the lakers swept the nuggets - GOAT STUFF!

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957232)
MJ was a fantastic defender but he didn't have the size and strength to guard the variety of positions that LeBron has in his career.

Imagine him trying to guard Jokic like LeBron was doing. Laughable.

That doesn't matter. Being more versatile doesn't make you a better defender.

Lebron is a big freak athlete, but not as good of a defender pound for pound.

Also, Lebron spent so much of the last several years not playing defense that you don't get to harp on longevity while also giving him a pass defensively when making comparisons to Jordan's defense.

DJ's left nut 05-24-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957232)
MJ was a fantastic defender but he didn't have the size and strength to guard the variety of positions that LeBron has in his career.

Imagine him trying to guard Jokic like LeBron was doing. Laughable.

Maybe someone like Karl Malone, perhaps?

I'm being punked at this point, right?

Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16957238)
Doesn’t matter if you like LeBron or MJ. LeBron leading his team back from 3-1 against a 73 win team will always be a historic accomplishment. That’s not really debatable.

It pretty much makes up for the biggest stain on his career that Dirk happily gave him.

that gets him back to square zero then, not GOAT status

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16957244)
Maybe someone like Karl Malone, perhaps?

I'm being punked at this point, right?

Karl Malone grew to Jokic size now? Incredible.

Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16957244)
Maybe someone like Karl Malone, perhaps?

I'm being punked at this point, right?

KC_Infection is just copying and pasting posts from the last 10 years at this point.

He masturbates nightly to that block from 2016.

DJ's left nut 05-24-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16957241)
That doesn't matter. Being more versatile doesn't make you a better defender.

Lebron was a freak athlete, but not as good of a defender pound for pound.

Also, Lebron spent so much of the last several years not playing defense that you don't get to hard on longevity while giving him a pass defensively when making comparisons to Jordan's defense.

Lebron is a more versatile defender - yup.

And Jordan was EASILY a better on-ball and perimeter defender. James, even at his prime, wasn't a great on-ball defender. A fantastic help defender because he has very good defensive instincts, but his defensive impact was not what Jordans was.

This is a truly bizarre pivot from KCC. I didn't even know this was a thing.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16957239)
i'll never forget that time lebron shut down jokic and the lakers swept the nuggets - GOAT STUFF!

If AD showed up like he did in 2020 against Denver instead of flaking out, there's a decent chance of that happening.

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16957251)
Lebron is a more versatile defender - yup.

And Jordan was EASILY a better on-ball and perimeter defender. James, even at his prime, wasn't a great on-ball defender. A fantastic help defender because he has very good defensive instincts, but his defensive impact was not what Jordans was.

This is a truly bizarre pivot from KCC. I didn't even know this was a thing.

Yea, he's this commited.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16957251)
Lebron is a more versatile defender - yup.

And Jordan was EASILY a better on-ball and perimeter defender. James, even at his prime, wasn't a great on-ball defender. A fantastic help defender because he has very good defensive instincts, but his defensive impact was not what Jordans was.

This is a truly bizarre pivot from KCC. I didn't even know this was a thing.

https://media.tenor.com/AQz3_zaiD14A...l-laughter.gif

Somebody didn't actually watch LeBron in his prime, it appears. The guy was the best defender in the league in his late 20s.

Megatron96 05-24-2023 02:27 PM

MJ literally changed the game; changed how it was played, changed how teams were constructed, changed the very importance of the game. The NBA is what it is today because of MJ.

DJ's left nut 05-24-2023 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957247)
Karl Malone grew to Jokic size now? Incredible.

Ah. Yes.

Fair point. Karl Malone truly was known for being small, soft and easy to muscle out of the paint.

I guess I see your point.

Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957256)
https://media.tenor.com/AQz3_zaiD14A...l-laughter.gif

Somebody didn't actually watch LeBron in his prime, it appears. The guy was the best defender in the league in his late 20s.

he let dirk walk all over him ROFL

tyecopeland 05-24-2023 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957193)
MJ wasn't the Warriors. He needed Scottie to turn the Bulls into that. Look at his playoff track record without him.

And the 2016 ring is arguably the most impressive win in the history of basketball considering how one-sided in overall talent that series was in favor of the Warriors and how he came back from a 3-1 deficit.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16957238)
Doesn’t matter if you like LeBron or MJ. LeBron leading his team back from 3-1 against a 73 win team will always be a historic accomplishment. That’s not really debatable.

It pretty much makes up for the biggest stain on his career that Dirk happily gave him.

More like 3-2 since game 5 was tainted with the suspension, am I right? I mean the games the Warriors won since one opponent were injured don't count according to kcc.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16957238)
Doesn’t matter if you like LeBron or MJ. LeBron leading his team back from 3-1 against a 73 win team will always be a historic accomplishment. That’s not really debatable.

It pretty much makes up for the biggest stain on his career that Dirk happily gave him.

It's the greatest accomplishment in NBA history and those who are capable of seeing LeBron for what he is instead of being blinded by hate can acknowledge it.

DJ's left nut 05-24-2023 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16957238)
Doesn’t matter if you like LeBron or MJ. LeBron leading his team back from 3-1 against a 73 win team will always be a historic accomplishment. That’s not really debatable.

It pretty much makes up for the biggest stain on his career that Dirk happily gave him.

I've never really considered it that way, but yeah - that's not wrong.

That Mavericks loss was pretty damn inexcusable. But the Cavs win was pretty equally unimaginable.

Yeah, that seems a bit of a wash.

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16957261)
he let dirk walk all over him ROFL

Remember Lebron getting D'd up by JJ Barrea?

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16957266)
I've never really considered it that way, but yeah - that's not wrong.

That Mavericks loss was pretty damn inexcusable. But the Cavs win was pretty equally unimaginable.

Yeah, that seems a bit of a wash.

Yea, said the same thing earlier. I give Lebron full credit there, but at best it just cancels out 2011 because that was BAD.

Honestly for me, there was probably nothing Lebron could do after 2011 though. I just mean for arguments sake.

tyecopeland 05-24-2023 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957252)
If AD showed up like he did in 2020 against Denver instead of flaking out, there's a decent chance of that happening.

Translation:

"If AD had been the best player on the team, then I could claim LeBron carried the lakers to the finals."

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16957257)
MJj literally changed the game; changed how it was played, changed how teams were constructed, changed the very importance of the game. The NBA is what it is today because of MJ.

Yes, they created the flagrant foul because he whined to Stern about the Pistons. Good point. Now there are flagrant fouls every game for what used to be a common foul.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 16957275)
Translation:

"If AD had been the best player on the team, then I could claim LeBron carried the lakers to the finals."

On the contrary, I was the one saying AD was the best player on the team in both the Grizzlies and Lakers' series, so that is false.

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:31 PM

https://i.imgur.com/idqantP.jpg

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16957273)
Yea, said the same thing earlier. I give Lebron full credit there, but at best it just cancels out 2011 because that was BAD.

Honestly for me, there was probably nothing Lebron could do after 2011 though. I just mean for arguments sake.

LeBron has been the GOAT since he finished 2016 in that fashion. Statistically, he's only kept building that case enormously since then.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16957285)

Barea is fouling him in at least 3 of those images. Disgusting what they let the Mavs get away with in that series.

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957286)
LeBron has been the GOAT since he finished 2016 in that fashion. Statistically, he's only kept building that case enormously since then.

Again, at best cancels out 2011, which you pretend to acknowledge but ignore every time you bring up 2016.

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957293)
Barea is fouling him in at least 3 of those images. Disgusting what they let the Mavs get away with in that series.

No point in acknowledging Barry level posts.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16957296)
Again, at best cancels out 2011, which you pretend to acknowledge but ignore every time you bring up 2016.

It more than supersedes any bad series he ever had, just like nobody brings up some of MJ's awful playoff performances against the Pistons after his run of titles.

Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 02:37 PM

LMAO this is pathetic

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KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:37 PM

https://www.basketball-reference.com...905290CHI.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com...905310DET.html

MJ took 8 shots in a ECF game in 1989 at his absolute physical peak, a game after he went 5 for 15. You have to wonder why it doesn't get talked about more.

staylor26 05-24-2023 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957321)
https://www.basketball-reference.com...905290CHI.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com...905310DET.html

MJ took 8 shots in a ECF game in 1989 at his absolute physical peak, a game after he went 5 for 15. You have to wonder why it doesn't get talked about more.

1 game versus 5 straight no shows in the 4th Q in the Finals.


https://i.imgur.com/7VhwJks.jpg

Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957321)
https://www.basketball-reference.com...905290CHI.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com...905310DET.html

MJ took 8 shots in a ECF game in 1989 at his absolute physical peak, a game after he went 5 for 15. You have to wonder why it doesn't get talked about more.

https://i.etsystatic.com/13879217/r/...46032_788y.jpg

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16957342)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clf-NPOWIAAzvVj.jpg

Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957346)

blow it out your ass

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrnWRATXoAA9rYK.jpg

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16957341)
1 game versus 5 straight no shows in the 4th Q in the Finals.


https://i.imgur.com/7VhwJks.jpg

Everybody (including apparently MJ and LeBron) can have a bad playoff series. Not everyone can do this.

https://i.insider.com/51c3d72569bedd...jpeg&auto=webp

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16957352)

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/122...znvSwGGw0laF0=

MJ had the benefit of being on a completely stacked team where he stayed for (nearly) his entire career. LeBron had to move around and accomplished the feat at multiple other places, including the historic LA Lakers.

Advantage LeBron.

Megatron96 05-24-2023 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957276)
Yes, they created the flagrant foul because he whined to Stern about the Pistons. Good point. Now there are flagrant fouls every game for what used to be a common foul.

Wow, I thought you were some kind of NBA expert. Guess you don't remember the game before MJ.

KC_Connection 05-24-2023 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16957364)
Wow, I thought you were some kind of NBA expert. Guess you don't remember the game before MJ.

Oh we remember.

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Hammock Parties 05-24-2023 02:53 PM

it's all so very tiring at this point

just remember when you go to bed tonight, lebron is done winning titles

ChiefsCountry 05-24-2023 02:54 PM

Like I said before the LeBron stans and the LeBron haters are both equal reeruns

New World Order 05-24-2023 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16957188)
As you are aware, Kyrie scored the only basket in the last 5 minutes of that game on either team. Just like earlier this week, LeBron can't help the fact that nobody was hitting shots on his passes.

During that time, LeBron was playing his regular brand of elite defense including his ridiculous, game saving block on Iggy. He then finished the game with a FT to seal it.

GOAT stuff.

No field goals by the GOAT in the final 5 minutes.

GOAT stuff


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