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Oh, and wasn't it LeBron that went on TV a few years ago and announced that he was "now the GOAT"?LMAO
MJ, when asked that question, was quick to say that he never thought of himself that way or said that about himself, because he felt that there were so many great players that came before him that he didn't want to be that kind of asshole. |
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The greatest play in NBA Finals history. MJ would never. |
LMAO LMAO give me a ****ing break
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Is this the epic 'taking over a game' that I've been waiting for? |
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I love how KCC says that titles are a team accomplishment.
BUT Lebron is the GOAT because he took down the 2016 Warriors ALL BY HIMSELF. Let's just ignore that Kyrie was also fantastic in that series. Kyrie put up legitimate finals MVP type of numbers too, just less that Lebron. They were both great in that series, and yea, when it came down to it, Kyrie hit the big shot. |
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Did Lebron not instigate it then cry like a bitch to the media to force the NBA's hand? Like I said https://i.imgur.com/fzp1boh.gif |
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During that time, LeBron was playing his regular brand of elite defense including his ridiculous, game saving block on Iggy. He then finished the game with a FT to seal it. GOAT stuff. |
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That same Warriors team should've lost to OKC the round before. They went all in to try to top the GOAT with the greatest season ever, and they clearly ran out of gas at the end and Lebron AND Kyrie were just too good. It was his most valuable ring, but at best it cancels out 2011. |
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And the 2016 ring is arguably the most impressive win in the history of basketball considering how one-sided in overall talent that series was in favor of the Warriors and how he came back from a 3-1 deficit. |
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GOAT stuff |
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MJ would never. |
I'll never forget when he covered all five guys on defense by himself!
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MJ needed Pippen to win 6 right? That's what's you're going with? Lebron needed Wade, Bosh, Allen, Kyrie, Love, and AD to win 4. What exactly is the point a Lebron Stan is trying to make here? Just proof how weak Lebron's actual argument is. |
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I’m sure that would have went well in the age of social media. Practicing with MJ must have been something else. I imagine a bit like this: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/xDAsABdkWSc" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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That's what we're going with now. Just....wow. I mean, he was very possible the best on-ball perimeter defender in NBA history but that's the argument we're gonna try to have right now? Neat. |
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Instead, he channeled his inner asshole into being a LeGM team hopper and fake social justice activist that demonizes heroic police officers :shrug: |
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Same with Mahomes being the BOAT. |
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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/-zd62MxKXp8" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe> This is pure GOAT stuff. |
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Imagine him trying to guard Jokic like LeBron was doing. Laughable. |
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Okay... |
Doesn’t matter if you like LeBron or MJ. LeBron leading his team back from 3-1 against a 73 win team will always be a historic accomplishment. That’s not really debatable.
It pretty much makes up for the biggest stain on his career that Dirk happily gave him. |
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Lebron is a big freak athlete, but not as good of a defender pound for pound. Also, Lebron spent so much of the last several years not playing defense that you don't get to harp on longevity while also giving him a pass defensively when making comparisons to Jordan's defense. |
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I'm being punked at this point, right? |
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He masturbates nightly to that block from 2016. |
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And Jordan was EASILY a better on-ball and perimeter defender. James, even at his prime, wasn't a great on-ball defender. A fantastic help defender because he has very good defensive instincts, but his defensive impact was not what Jordans was. This is a truly bizarre pivot from KCC. I didn't even know this was a thing. |
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Somebody didn't actually watch LeBron in his prime, it appears. The guy was the best defender in the league in his late 20s. |
MJ literally changed the game; changed how it was played, changed how teams were constructed, changed the very importance of the game. The NBA is what it is today because of MJ.
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Fair point. Karl Malone truly was known for being small, soft and easy to muscle out of the paint. I guess I see your point. |
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That Mavericks loss was pretty damn inexcusable. But the Cavs win was pretty equally unimaginable. Yeah, that seems a bit of a wash. |
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Honestly for me, there was probably nothing Lebron could do after 2011 though. I just mean for arguments sake. |
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"If AD had been the best player on the team, then I could claim LeBron carried the lakers to the finals." |
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LMAO this is pathetic
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fLV1oJ9Sxdk" title="JJ Barea 2011 NBA Playoffs Pest Defense" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
https://www.basketball-reference.com...905290CHI.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com...905310DET.html MJ took 8 shots in a ECF game in 1989 at his absolute physical peak, a game after he went 5 for 15. You have to wonder why it doesn't get talked about more. |
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MJ had the benefit of being on a completely stacked team where he stayed for (nearly) his entire career. LeBron had to move around and accomplished the feat at multiple other places, including the historic LA Lakers. Advantage LeBron. |
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it's all so very tiring at this point
just remember when you go to bed tonight, lebron is done winning titles |
Like I said before the LeBron stans and the LeBron haters are both equal reeruns
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GOAT stuff |
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