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ptlyon 10-30-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10141475)
I'm going to steal all the gel and then all the QB's in the world will be like "Hey, Mr. Plow - can I get some gel over here?" And I'll be like "Yeah, but it's gonna cost you."

That ain't gel...

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 10141478)
Both of those QB's have been on their teams for awhile and playing with their main targets for years. Who happen to be top 10 in their positions WR and TE. Try again.

His whole point was 11 guys learning a new system. Those 2 teams have 11 guys learning a new system, so I'm not for sure why prior familarity in an old system is relevant. You guys are hilarious LMAO

Old ass Gates and whatever receiver isn't injured this week? Royal is back this week! Elite! LMAO

JENKINSWINS 10-30-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10141486)
His whole point was 11 guys learning a new system. Those 2 teams have 11 guys learning a new system, so I'm not for sure why prior familarity in an old system is relevant.

Old ass Gates and whatever receiver isn't injured this week? Royal is back this week! Elite! LMAO

There's more to gel than just that and you know it. Playing time/familiarity with the same guys is just as important as time in a new system, it makes it an easier transition.

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 10141480)
After he was fired, he claimed he was only doing what Singletary told him to do.

(I do believe that there was at least some truth to that).

Given the QB situation that was a smart strategy.

Jakemall 10-30-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10141461)
I hate you for making me remember that.

Well...gentlemen, I do believe my work here is done. o:-)

NinerDoug 10-30-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10141495)
Given the QB situation that was a smart strategy.

Really?

I thought it was pretty stupid. I have tended to think that Harbaugh is a smarter offensive mind, and had a winning strategy with that very same QB, but hey, opinions can differ.

Jakemall 10-30-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10141495)
Given the QB situation that was a smart strategy.

same qb situation and same offense players and defense players the following year, yet they went 13-3 with a different game plan.

doesn't sound so smart from a hindsight perspective.

9er guy 10-30-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 10141446)
Look at Kaepernick, they had to go back to smash mouth football because of 2 things. The offensive passing scheme sucks and so do his 2nd and 3rd string WRs. Now that teams are doubling Boldin and paying more attention to Vernon Davis, his gel is worse than Alex's. They're basically in the same situation, having limited good targets to throw to. I think Kaep's targets are by far better than KC's but Alex is doing better statically and in the win column.

Vernon has more yards and touchdowns than he did at this point last year with Smitty and is on pace for his first career 1,000 yard season. Teams may be paying more attention, but that hasn't mattered.

Anquan Boldin has more yards at this point this year than he did last year with Flacco and is on pace for a 1,000 yard season.

And that's with teams keying on both of these guys. And without a number 1 or 2/3 receiving option. (Whatever Manningham is)

That's hard to do.

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10141538)
same qb situation and same offense players and defense players the following year, yet they went 13-3 with a different game plan.

doesn't sound so smart from a hindsight perspective.

Which was what? Cut back on Alice's attempts? It sounds like Harbaugh did what Jimmy said Mike told him to do.

NinerDoug 10-30-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10141545)
Which was what? Cut back on Alice's attempts?

About 31 attempts per game in 2010. About 27 attempts per game in 2011.

I wouldn't consider that a huge cut back, especially when you consider that ST was giving us a really short field pretty much the entire season.

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 10141575)
About 31 attempts per game in 2010. About 27 attempts per game in 2011.

I wouldn't consider that a huge cut back, especially when you consider that ST was giving us a really short field pretty much the entire season.

10% fewer is significant and Alice has a marginal improvement in numbers. What about from 11 to 12?

JENKINSWINS 10-30-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 10141543)
Vernon has more yards and touchdowns than he did at this point last year with Smitty and is on pace for his first career 1,000 yard season. Teams may be paying more attention, but that hasn't mattered.

Anquan Boldin has more yards at this point this year than he did last year with Flacco and is on pace for a 1,000 yard season.

And that's with teams keying on both of these guys. And without a number 1 or 2/3 receiving option. (Whatever Manningham is)

That's hard to do.

Not being able to spread the ball around is going to hurt him, like it did against the Seahawks and Colts.

hometeam 10-30-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 10141448)
Ah yes, brilliant once again to point out that its the QB and the QB only that time to develop.

This is getting silly and childish, talking as if Alex is holding this O back.

Please, if you don't know jack about football maybe it would be wise of some in here to go back to just playing Madden.

This WHOLE O is learning a new system. If not for Alex, this O would be far worse off and the team nowhere near 8-0.

They are only 8 games in people. This is not a video game. All 11 guys must learn a huge playbook and know it front and back and then on top of that know what each other is gonna do for every dam situation that can come up in a game. ITS NOT EASY AND WILL TAKE TIME.

Like I've said before, the greatest qb of all time, who happened to run this O, said it takes over 2 whole years for a O to run like a well oiled machine.

Whatever, done with you trolls who haven't got jack but crying all the time.

You are taking my quote out of context. The dude just said Alex Smith needs to develop as a QB before he can develop in the offense. I balked. Pretty simple. If you don't want to hear about how Alex Smith sucks, don't come into the ****ing Alex Smith sucks thread.

Jakemall 10-30-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10141578)
10% fewer is significant and Alice has a marginal improvement in numbers. What about from 11 to 12?

So you're really going to attribute Alex's improvement from 2010 to 2012 to limited attempts? I didn't realize football was so simple!?!?!?

That's amazing. Imagine what he could do for the chiefs if he just handed off the ball every down!!!

NinerDoug 10-30-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10141578)
10% fewer is significant and Alice has a marginal improvement in numbers. What about from 11 to 12?

Significant increase in YPA. And if you have a great running game, why sling it?


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