But I am not judging Allen and Ware by Wins and Losses, am I? And FWIW, I'd say that Brady is a better QB than Orton ever will be.

We have some really petty people on this board arguing over stupid shit.

it's all fun till he costs his team games with shitty INT's it happens every year like clockwork

You're trying to judge them on 4 games....which is absurd.

Based on 4 games Steve Smith is the best WR in football which if anyone believes that they are reeruned.

Yeah. Ain't it cool?:clap:

No, you're judging them by sacks and going off of this year since in your own words, it's the only thing that matters.

Since QBs are judged by W's and L's, that is the logical extension of the argument that you are making, and it's a ****ing stupid one.

If we didn't argue about petty shit we wouldn't have a forum.

True.

This :)

Look, what Ware did last year was fantastic. I'm not questioning that. But I don't care about last year now, because it's "history".

Who would you pick, right now, off from this 4 games? Ingore the past. I'm only focusing this season.

Another thing is, what is the primary responsibility for a DE (OLB if you're in a 3-4)? His job is to stop the run and get sacks, yes? Isn't that what they are being paid for?

And you are the one that brought up the wins and losses. I didn't. And I know for a fact that Brady is a better QB than Orton is.

That was an AMAZING game.... Superbowl-esque.

No we can talk about sex and poop which is alot more entertaining than trying to figure out if Allen's half a sack lead over Ware means he is better than him or vice versa. How about this they are both ****ing good and I would love if they were both Chiefs.

In fairness, JA has been doing this for several seasons, Smith has not

Imagine if Donald Lee had hands

:thumb:

They are both great players, pure personal opinion on which is better, which is why neither of you will win the argument. A case could be made for both.

The original statement was,"JA is the best pass rusher in the league right now". That would have to figure in this year also, which looks like JA dominated this game, and has played good so far this year. IMO at this point JA has the upper hand, that can change though throughout the year. Right know is the key word here.