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Scott Pilgrim 04-13-2011 02:57 PM
I would be all for a rebuild at this point. Take Holiday, Wainwright, and Rasmus and build from there. Trade Carp, you are probably going to be forced to let AP walk because i don't think you will be able to get him to waive his NTC.

BigRedChief 04-13-2011 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 7561893)
So you'd jump ship? To what the ****ing Royals??
I was stating an opinion on what Cardinal nation would think of the idea. My teams have been set since before kindergarten and I'll just take em with me the rest of my time on the earth until I become work food.

Rams Fan 04-13-2011 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7560730)
Come on this is new to Cardinal fans. :p
No it's not. 2007 reminds of this year. There were quite a few injuries.

BigRedChief 04-13-2011 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7560730)
Come on this is new to Cardinal fans. :p
We suffered like Royals fans in the mid-late 70's. They sucked bad, the managers and ownership seemed out of town, out of touch. Got embrassed all the time. No hope etc.

BTW, we still got 22K out to watch those pathetic games.

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2011 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7561751)
I don't see the Cardinal fan base supporting a youth rebuild.
What hasn't this fanbase supported?

I don't think we've had our per-game attendance drop below 20k since 1980.

And even in some of the lean years in the late 80's and early 90's we were between 30-35k, IIRC.

Rams Fan 04-13-2011 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 7561970)
A complete firesale, Florida Marlins type youth movement won't be tolerated. But a youth movement would be tolerated, as long as the guys hustle and play the game the right way unlike half these ****s we have now. Build the team around guys like Holiday, Wainwright, Rasmus, Freese, and you're talking.
This.

I wouldn't mind Berkman being traded midway through the season for a prospect like Luis Perdomo.

Perdomo was the guy the Cards from the Tribe for Anthony Reyes.

BigRedChief 04-13-2011 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7562598)
What hasn't this fanbase supported?

I don't think we've had our per-game attendance drop below 20k since 1980.

And even in some of the lean years in the late 80's and early 90's we were between 30-35k, IIRC.
close, 1981.

Rams Fan 04-13-2011 08:10 PM
We will rally around Lance Berkman and play good baseball.

Scott Pilgrim 04-13-2011 08:17 PM
Berkman is on fire god damn!

Marcellus 04-13-2011 08:18 PM
Looks like the Berkman signing was tits. Just hit a slam and has 4 HR in this series.

Wow.

Rams Fan 04-13-2011 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7562788)
We will rally around Lance Berkman and play good baseball.
As I was saying....

BigRedChief 04-13-2011 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7562618)
This.

I wouldn't mind Berkman being traded midway through the season for a prospect like Luis Perdomo.

Perdomo was the guy the Cards from the Tribe for Anthony Reyes.
Bet berkman has a no trade clause in his contract.

Scott Pilgrim 04-13-2011 08:24 PM
Berkman on pace for 54 HR and 149 RBI. just saying

BigRedChief 04-13-2011 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7555836)
Anywhere from 80-90 losses would still not surprise me. This team is 4-6, no starter has shit his pants yet, and we've played, in our first 11 games, 10 against the worst offenses in the league that aren't us.

Cards financial obligations 2011 - 2016

2016http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=t_WBl5PYQPvrO7eNWGf0Vqg&output=html

Scott Pilgrim 04-13-2011 08:32 PM
Kennedy has no clue where the ball is going when he's throwing it tonight.


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