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splatbass 10-07-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10061608)
Geno tonight it like a work of art. Such beauty.

Yeah, that play a little while ago where he threw it right to that DL was really a thing of beauty. Lucky the guy didn't catch it.

Munson 10-07-2013 08:52 PM

Beautiful TD pass from the Chocolate One.

Hammock Parties 10-07-2013 08:58 PM

http://i.imgur.com/H3kMTp1.gif

hometeam 10-07-2013 08:58 PM

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Sweet Daddy Hate 10-07-2013 09:02 PM

NO NO NO HE'S SHIT!

Hammock Parties 10-07-2013 09:03 PM

15 passes, 3 for TDs.

Not bad at all.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-07-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10062091)
15 passes, 3 for TDs.

Not bad at all.

NO ATL'S DEFENSE IS ****ING GARBAGE AND HE SUCKS!

O.city 10-07-2013 09:06 PM

11 completions for 131 yards and 3 tds. Good night for him thus far

BigCatDaddy 10-07-2013 09:32 PM

Geno does it again!!!!

Hammock Parties 10-07-2013 09:32 PM

3-2

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...59/993/599.gif

BigCatDaddy 10-07-2013 09:32 PM

Anybody get a QB rating on that game?

LiveSteam 10-07-2013 09:32 PM

You played a nice game pilgrim

L.A. Chieffan 10-07-2013 09:34 PM

I can throw five yard TD passes. BFD

hometeam 10-07-2013 09:35 PM

OP is way behind.

splatbass 10-07-2013 09:35 PM

Geno led a nice drive to win it.

Hammock Parties 10-07-2013 09:40 PM

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/genowins2.gif

Priest31kc 10-07-2013 09:40 PM

ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Via @EliasSports Geno Smith: 2nd rookie QB to win on road on Monday Night Football all-time (Ed Rubbert, 1987 Redskins)

Priest31kc 10-07-2013 09:40 PM

Scott Kacsmar @FO_ScottKacsmar
Fastest rookie ever to 3. RT @fbgchase Geno Smith now has 3 game-winning 4th quarter drives in five career starts.

Messier 10-07-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10062102)
NO ATL'S DEFENSE IS ****ING GARBAGE AND HE SUCKS!

heh.

But it really is. Seriously.

duncan_idaho 10-07-2013 09:44 PM

I think anyone who is being honest can see the talent - the arm strength and accuracy - that made many of us such big fans of Geno Smith.

His first TD pass tonight was a great example of it, and he made several other plus throws.

If he continues to progress, keeps working hard, and shows better ball security as he gains experience, the guy is going to be a star. Tonight can be a big jumping off point for him.

Alex Smith might be better this year, but it wouldn't shock me if Geno has surpassed him by the middle of next season.

loochy 10-07-2013 09:45 PM

ALEX SMITH WOULD HAVE WON THAT GAME 456786 to 28

Priest31kc 10-07-2013 09:46 PM

ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Geno Smith: 1st rookie in the Super Bowl era to go on road and throw for 3 TD passes, 0 INT, with an 80% completion rate

TribalElder 10-07-2013 09:46 PM

Rex said 147.7 QB rating for Geno

For real?

O.city 10-07-2013 09:46 PM

So do we talk about how their offense stalled in the second half and let the falcons back into it? Or how he had less than 200 yards passing? Or any of the things we'd crucify our qb for?

Hammock Parties 10-07-2013 09:47 PM

He only threw 20 passes.

The guy averaged 10 yards per attempt.

STFU

Munson 10-07-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 10062376)
Scott Kacsmar @FO_ScottKacsmar
Fastest rookie ever to 3. RT @fbgchase Geno Smith now has 3 game-winning 4th quarter drives in five career starts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 10062400)
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Geno Smith: 1st rookie in the Super Bowl era to go on road and throw for 3 TD passes, 0 INT, with an 80% completion rate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 10062373)
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Via @EliasSports Geno Smith: 2nd rookie QB to win on road on Monday Night Football all-time (Ed Rubbert, 1987 Redskins)

Good thing we didn't draft him. :doh!:

Messier 10-07-2013 09:48 PM

I'm sensing pent up frustration from Genotopia.

The Bad Guy 10-07-2013 09:48 PM

I'm done ripping the guy. I'm happy with our situation but he's winning with replacement level talent on offense.

tk13 10-07-2013 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10062403)
So do we talk about how their offense stalled in the second half and let the falcons back into it? Or how he had less than 200 yards passing? Or any of the things we'd crucify our qb for?

It will never, ever be a level playing field on this board. Ever.

O.city 10-07-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10062406)
He only threw 20 passes.

The guy averaged 10 yards per attempt.

STFU

So they neutered him so he wouldn't turn it over?

O.city 10-07-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10062413)
I'm done ripping the guy. I'm happy with our situation but he's winning with replacement level talent on offense.

Come on. It's fun to toy with them int his thread.

hometeam 10-07-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson (Post 10062410)
Good thing we didn't draft him. :doh!:

http://i.imgur.com/DT07Nmj.gif

mikey23545 10-07-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10062406)
He only threw 20 passes.

The guy averaged 10 yards per attempt.

STFU

5-0 > 3-2

GoChargers 10-07-2013 09:51 PM

Geno is a beast.

TripleThreat 10-07-2013 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10062403)
So do we talk about how their offense stalled in the second half and let the falcons back into it? Or how he had less than 200 yards passing? Or any of the things we'd crucify our qb for?

I like alex, I think hes gonna do great things for us. I mean we are sold into him after 2 2nd round picks. Not completely but close to it. That being said, I think Geno wouldn't exactly be crucified for pulling out the "W" against a highly talented Atlanta team his rookie year. This year is seeming like a great start to Geno's career if New York doesn't crucify him first. Alex just gets more shit because of how long he has been in the league. Im not saying I expect alex to be the next peyton manning/Brett favre (even though im holding out 100% hope that he does) But if you look at both the Broncos/Vikings, they were both shit teams until Peyton came in and the same with Brett and the Vikings. So you hope with the talent we have on our team, that alex can produce Winning records and good #'s to help carry us to the ship. But so far hes on pace for 4k + yards a good amount of TD's and we are 5-0 so I don't give a fuuuuuk :)

GoChargers 10-07-2013 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 10062428)
5-0 > 3-2

Imagine if Geno had Charles, Bowe, and the Chiefs' defense instead of the shitty Jets.

O.city 10-07-2013 09:53 PM

The jets d is as good as the chiefs

Kaepernick 10-07-2013 09:57 PM

I'm not backing off my prediction that Rex will find a way to ruin Geno. Ryan is that bad.

After tonight's game, it will be a little harder for the "Geno is trash" crowd to argue he was a bust right out of the box, rather than Rex just ruining him. Probably by screwing with his head, but he will find some way to ruin him I believe.

The Bad Guy 10-08-2013 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 10062462)
I'm not backing off my prediction that Rex will find a way to ruin Geno. Ryan is that bad.

After tonight's game, it will be a little harder for the "Geno is trash" crowd to argue he was a bust right out of the box, rather than Rex just ruining him. Probably by screwing with his head, but he will find some way to ruin him I believe.

What QB did Rex ruin?

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-08-2013 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10062810)
What QB did Rex ruin?


Hint:

Mexican.

Put the leash on, killed the natural order of things. Neutered/Destroyed/End Of Line.

007 10-08-2013 06:00 AM

Let it go for crying out loud. The Chiefs didn't draft him. What is the point of harping on this continually?

Sandy Vagina 10-08-2013 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10062388)
heh.

But it really is. Seriously.

It is.. but Geno shouldn't be faulted for that. He made the throws he needed to make, and I say good for him. Does this mean he will ever be really good? No... can't overlook 2 fumbles lost and 8 INTs so far just because he played well against a shit defense last night. But last night? Choco Penii did well... had good pass pro and wide open targets frequently.. but he still was good.

Bottom line is Geno is a Jet. KC made their choice, so sure... enjoy the Geno ride all you want... but try and leave behind the childish tantrums of him not being a Chief. Enjoy the KC ride too, and don't misdirect your displeasure of Reid's choice to the QB. Alex is here because Reid and Dorsey wanted him here. He is here to do his absolute best to win as many KC games as possible. So you mad, bro? Be mad at the HC and GM.

ceebz 10-08-2013 06:31 AM

Nice to see Geno have a good game. The kid is oozing with potential. If he can just clean up the TO's, the Jets will have themselves a nice QB.

Personally, I think Geno looked better last night than Alex Smith has at any point this season. And the Chiefs have played some shitty defenses as well.

the Talking Can 10-08-2013 06:37 AM

smith is a rookie playing with the worst collection of offensive talent in the league...and has more passing yards, the same number of tds, and a higher completion percentage then the 9 year vet playing with Charles and Bowe


that's called upside...

SAUTO 10-08-2013 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 10062843)
It is.. but Geno shouldn't be faulted for that. He made the throws he needed to make, and I say good for him. Does this mean he will ever be really good? No... can't overlook 2 fumbles lost and 8 INTs so far just because he played well against a shit defense last night. But last night? Choco Penii did well... had good pass pro and wide open targets frequently.. but he still was good.

Bottom line is Geno is a Jet. KC made their choice, so sure... enjoy the Geno ride all you want... but try and leave behind the childish tantrums of him not being a Chief. Enjoy the KC ride too, and don't misdirect your displeasure of Reid's choice to the QB. Alex is here because Reid and Dorsey wanted him here. He is here to do his absolute best to win as many KC games as possible. So you mad, bro? Be mad at the HC and GM.

link to the "childish tantrums" recently.

the Talking Can 10-08-2013 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 10062843)
It is.. but Geno shouldn't be faulted for that. He made the throws he needed to make, and I say good for him. Does this mean he will ever be really good? No... can't overlook 2 fumbles lost and 8 INTs so far just because he played well against a shit defense last night. But last night? Choco Penii did well... had good pass pro and wide open targets frequently.. but he still was good.

Bottom line is Geno is a Jet. KC made their choice, so sure... enjoy the Geno ride all you want... but try and leave behind the childish tantrums of him not being a Chief. Enjoy the KC ride too, and don't misdirect your displeasure of Reid's choice to the QB. Alex is here because Reid and Dorsey wanted him here. He is here to do his absolute best to win as many KC games as possible. So you mad, bro? Be mad at the HC and GM.


yeah, we need a 49er fan lecturing us on stuff...jesus christ you guys are the worst

duncan_idaho 10-08-2013 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10062834)
Let it go for crying out loud. The Chiefs didn't draft him. What is the point of harping on this continually?

There are a few things going on:

1) When Geno has had poor games - like the week before, when he turned it over a bunch - the anti-Geno crowd has bumped the thread to mock him and those of us who thought he had big-time potential. So when Geno has a GOOD game, the pro-Geno crowd is going to do the same.

2) The Chiefs made a clear choice between Geno Smith and Alex Smith. If Geno becomes a star NFL QB sooner rather than later (Not a guarantee but he certainly has flashed the potential multiple times), and Alex Smith remains a middle-of-the-pack guy, the Chiefs FO chose incorrectly.

TripleThreat 10-08-2013 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10062855)
Nice to see Geno have a good game. The kid is oozing with potential. If he can just clean up the TO's, the Jets will have themselves a nice QB.

Personally, I think Geno looked better last night than Alex Smith has at any point this season. And the Chiefs have played some shitty defenses as well.

I think that's a stretch with the second paragraph, though geno looked better than most rookies do at certain points last night. I won't feel the need to compare these 2 players until A geno becomes a chief or B in 8 years when geno has been in the league as long as smith has to this point. We are playing winning football though so I don't care too much for flashy 50 point games. I think the 2 Denver games will really show alot about our qb. I don't care how we win the sb, just as long as we win it, and stay in contention for it year in year out like some teams are.

BigCatDaddy 10-08-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 10062902)
I think that's a stretch with the second paragraph, though geno looked better than most rookies do at certain points last night. I won't feel the need to compare these 2 players until A geno becomes a chief or B in 8 years when geno has been in the league as long as smith has to this point. We are playing winning football <b>though so I don't care too much for flashy 50 point games.</b> I think the 2 Denver games will really show alot about our qb. I don't care how we win the sb, just as long as we win it, and stay in contention for it year in year out like some teams are.

Herm?

duncan_idaho 10-08-2013 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 10062902)
I think that's a stretch with the second paragraph, though geno looked better than most rookies do at certain points last night. I won't feel the need to compare these 2 players until A geno becomes a chief or B in 8 years when geno has been in the league as long as smith has to this point. We are playing winning football though so I don't care too much for flashy 50 point games. I think the 2 Denver games will really show alot about our qb. I don't care how we win the sb, just as long as we win it, and stay in contention for it year in year out like some teams are.

Then you're left hoping, like the rest of us, that Alex Smith turns into a legitimate franchise QB, because that's the best way to consistently do what you're calling for in the bold.

Why are you setting 8 years as the mark for comparing the two? Doesn't make sense to me. If Geno turns into a star (By the end of next season, or the end of this season) and becomes a BETTER player than Alex Smith, you can compare it at that point.

As it is, Alex Smith's current leg up rests solely on his ball protection (which runs his passer rating a measly 3.5 points higher than Geno Smith's). Geno is superior in other key measures (completion percentage, YPA) or even (TD passes).

We were told Alex Smith was the right move for KC because it allowed the Chiefs to win NOW. It is starting to look like KC could have had its cake and eaten it, too, with Geno Smith.

rico 10-08-2013 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 10062890)
yeah, we need a 49er fan lecturing us on stuff...jesus christ you guys are the worst

No doubt. Why the hell are they even here to begin with? Well, I'm sure the fact that 49er message boards generally suck ass while CP is the best message board in the universe may play a role, but still... They have officially caused me to hate the 49ers. My hate list: Donks, Faids, Colts, Dolts, Ravens and most recently....49ers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10062855)
Nice to see Geno have a good game. The kid is oozing with potential. If he can just clean up the TO's, the Jets will have themselves a nice QB.

Personally, I think Geno looked better last night than Alex Smith has at any point this season. And the Chiefs have played some shitty defenses as well.

This.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-08-2013 08:04 AM

....this is why some of us wanted Geno

Brock 10-08-2013 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 10062858)
smith is a rookie playing with the worst collection of offensive talent in the league...and has more passing yards, the same number of tds, and a higher completion percentage then the 9 year vet playing with Charles and Bowe


that's called upside...

Boom

Pasta Little Brioni 10-08-2013 08:06 AM

I don't want to bitch at this point, but you know we could have Geno in the wings, still have Smith...just be short a shitty Right Tackle.

DBOSHO 10-08-2013 08:12 AM

Does this game make Geno the frontrunner for rookie of the year? I think so.

Say what you will about atlantas defense, but he played spectacular tonight. We will regret passing him up.

JENKINSWINS 10-08-2013 08:19 AM

Geno has 2 really good TEs, and they were running free all over the field. KC is hurting at that position and once they get healthy it's still a question mark. Geno is doing well but I doubt he would be 5-0 at this point of the season with KC.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-08-2013 08:21 AM

We wouldn't be 5-0 because he would have shit his pants with turnovers at some point. I would love to have him over booger waiting in the wings though.

Sandy Vagina 10-08-2013 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10063020)
We wouldn't be 5-0 because he would have shit his pants with turnovers at some point. I would love to have him over booger waiting in the wings though.

That's certainly fair enough.

Three7s 10-08-2013 08:36 AM

Geno Smith is better than Alex Smith, period. Alex Smith is conservative, which means he doesn't turn the ball over, and finds a way to get the job done when he has too. Geno Smith is an aggressive young play-maker that isn't afraid to make every throw, which is what we've been wanting for YEARS in a KC QB.

We might not be 5-0 if he were our QB, but we'd have a great future to build on, no question.

duncan_idaho 10-08-2013 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10063020)
We wouldn't be 5-0 because he would have shit his pants with turnovers at some point. I would love to have him over booger waiting in the wings though.

Chiefs are probably 3-2 with Geno Smith. They likely drop the games to Dallas and this past weekend's game against Tennessee if Geno is the starter in KC.

Can't see them losing to Jacksonville or the Giants, considering how dominant the team was, and Philadelphia would be more of a toss-up but still a win, IMO.

That still tracks with being a playoff team, though not a team on course to have a first-round bye.

splatbass 10-08-2013 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10062834)
Let it go for crying out loud. The Chiefs didn't draft him. What is the point of harping on this continually?

It has become a face saving thing for both sides. When Geno has a bad day one side spends a week saying I told you so, and when he has a good week the Geno lovers act like he's the second coming of Jesus. Kind of pathetic really.

They should let it go, but this is CP so they will never let it go.

Kaepernick 10-08-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10062810)
What QB did Rex ruin?

I think he ruined Sanchez with poor QB development. He looked promising in his 2nd year and regressed ever since. I bet Mike McCarthy would have developed him.

But that is just my opinion and I'm sure yours differs. You see promise in Geno. History will show if he develops or is ruined under Rex Ryan. You have my prediction.

the Talking Can 10-08-2013 09:38 AM

Geno Smith is vastly superior as a rookie to Alex Smith as a rookie...like laugh out loud better

which is the only thing that matters if you're smart enough to draft and develop your own QB...

Kaepernick 10-08-2013 09:38 AM

I'm afraid to look at ESPN this morning. They must be spewing jizz all over the place now that another NY QB looks promising and had a big game.

I hate the east coast sports media.

the Talking Can 10-08-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10062834)
Let it go for crying out loud. The Chiefs didn't draft him. What is the point of harping on this continually?

the thread is clearly titled...no one forces you to post your tears

Skyy God 10-08-2013 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10062989)
I don't want to bitch at this point, but you know we could have Geno in the wings, still have Smith...just be short a shitty Right Tackle.

Assuming a trade down, which wasn't going to happen given the shitty draft class. Taking a backup QB with 1.1. is how GMs lose jobs.

BigCatDaddy 10-08-2013 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 10063194)
Assuming a trade down, which wasn't going to happen given the shitty draft class. Taking a backup QB with 1.1. is how GMs lose jobs.

Maybe. Which GM drafted/traded up for Eli?

the Talking Can 10-08-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 10063194)
Assuming a trade down, which wasn't going to happen given the shitty draft class. Taking a backup QB with 1.1. is how GMs lose jobs.

yeah, Rodgers clearly cost GB...

meanwhile taking a RT at #1 is smart and safe

hometeam 10-08-2013 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 10063194)
Assuming a trade down, which wasn't going to happen given the shitty draft class. Taking a backup QB with 1.1. is how GMs lose jobs.

yes, no 1.1 QB has ever had some bench time to start out a career..

Skyy God 10-08-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 10063210)
yeah, Rodgers clearly cost GB...

meanwhile taking a RT at #1 is smart and safe

a) My take is that Dorsey clearly wanted to trade out of the pick and wasn't thrilled taking a RT.

b) Rodgers went 24.That's the range you can draft a QBOTF.

Skyy God 10-08-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 10063215)
yes, no 1.1 QB has ever had some bench time to start out a career..

Not really since 2000, no.

Edit: I guess Eli sat for half a season behind Warner.

Skyy God 10-08-2013 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10063201)
Maybe. Which GM drafted/traded up for Eli?

Ernie Acorsi. But he hadn't just spent 2 high draft picks for Kerry Collins.

BossChief 10-08-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 10063194)
Assuming a trade down, which wasn't going to happen given the shitty draft class. Taking a backup QB with 1.1. is how GMs lose jobs.

I hate reading this crap over and over "there wasn't anyone to trade down with waaahhhhh "

Bullshit.
Miami was looking to trade up, as evidenced by them trading up to 3 with Oakland.

But at least we got Eric Fisher...

Skyy God 10-08-2013 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10063248)
I hate reading this crap over and over "there wasn't anyone to trade down with waaahhhhh "

Bullshit.
Miami was looking to trade up, as evidenced by them trading up to 3 with Oakland.

But at least we got Eric Fisher...

Hindsight being 20/eleventybillion, we could have taken Richardson at 12 and jumped the Jets for Smith.

SAUTO 10-08-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 10063154)
It has become a face saving thing for both sides. When Geno has a bad day one side spends a week saying I told you so, and when he has a good week the Geno lovers act like he's the second coming of Jesus. Kind of pathetic really.

They should let it go, but this is CP so they will never let it go.

who is "they"?


you are here doing it yourself

BossChief 10-08-2013 10:18 AM

I think it's kinda telling that we were already talking to Miami about trading for Albert and they turned around and traded with the Raiders to move up.

9er guy 10-08-2013 10:32 AM

Eric Fisher could still be good. Anthony Davis was a complete turnstyle his first year, he's made some pretty drastic improvements since then.

Dave Lane 10-08-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10062989)
I don't want to bitch at this point, but you know we could have Geno in the wings, still have Smith...just be short a shitty Right Tackle.

I want to cry...

Hammock Parties 10-08-2013 10:36 AM

My gut is churning today because we could have had this kid AND another player instead of Eric Fisher and STILL traded for Alex.

Imagine what Reid could have done with Geno...god dayum.

OP updated.

the Talking Can 10-08-2013 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10062989)
I don't want to bitch at this point, but you know we could have Geno in the wings, still have Smith...just be short a shitty Right Tackle.

they just said exactly that on 810, not 10 mins ago...

we could have had it all...


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