I don't know if TWD writers' intentions were to make Negan look infinitely more qualified as a leader than Michonne, even while imprisoned, but damn if they didn't pull it off.

I don't know which social justice issue you're specifically referring to, but I do notice that every community is run by women for some reason (Michonne, Carol, Maggie, and Alpha), while clearly superior men take on the beta position, literally in the Whispers' case.

That was the first episode I've tried to watch since the garbage arena duel with Rick and quickly remembered why I quit watching.

I'm still enjoying the show. It's very different with all the main actors leaving, and they are just starting to undo the mess that Gimple made, but entertaining nonetheless.

So, is Daryl going to bang that deaf chick or what?

Yeah.. I think they are going to hook up.. I also think the kid is going nail the chick they saved from the Whispers...

Is this show still on?

I finally gave up after the Lizzie and the flowers garbage.

They still have one or two good guy straight white males left on the show. Can't end til those are gone or subjugated.

The whisper people walk into the tall building, say to each other that the walkers can't climb over the barricade but they can, Beta says its a trap, and they just go on up. WTF.

And who are these non-aggressive movie fans of the tradesman? I bet Chris Hardwick was making a REALLY big deal out of them with lots of speculation and extra "oooohhhhh" on TWD.

That fight between Daryl and Beta sucked too.

I just caught up on the last 3 episodes of the 1st half & then everything the 2nd half. I don't know what to say other than I'm finishing the season then I'm out. No idea why I'm going to watch the end of the season, but I will.

Starting a war because some kid wants to get his dick wet....yeesh. And shit, will someone tell Michonne to take her hair off her face. Bugs the shit out of me that half her face is covered every time she's on screen.

Well at least we know how Michonne and Daryl got those scars.... The little blond girl that ran away will be a problem later I bet..

Turned it on for a couple minutes last night during hockey intermission. I now understand the meaning of "hate watch". I would not want 'writer for the walking dead' on my resume once this show finally goes off the cliff. Literally not figuratively. Figuratively already wiped his dick on the curtains left the building.

I check this thread every couple of weeks just to make sure it's still nothing but people talking about how much they hate the show. Seems odd to me, but oh well. See y'all in a couple more weeks.

These guys can't produce and asynchronous story worth shit. I mean, its AMC, couldn't they have consulted Vince Gilligan on how to time jump and make sense and still be interesting? What a cluster of an episode. Boring. Slow. Pedantic. Superfluous...ludicrous...OUTRAGEOUS!

I thought it a great episode, as soon as I figured out WTF was going on.

I agree and heard others say the same. It was pretty confusing with the constant time jumps, but was a dark episode, provided insight that I'm sure will come into play later, and was the first glimpse of the time just after Rick left.

The way they timed the commercials was very jarring, and I found myself rewinding a lot.

I quit watching after Rick's last episode.

Is there any reason at all to bother giving it another chance?...

It's doing enough to keep my intrest. It has been mentioned before in this thread that the new show runners have a big task unfu****g what Gimple did to the show. So far they have done an admirable job but integrating the new characters into the main show plot and giving me reason to care about them has been less than effective, at least for me.

Still watching just not as excited as I have been in past years. Too many sharks have been jumped (Carl's death, Rick's departure) and too soon.

Continuing to watch this show for me is like having a Sodastream on the kitchen counter.

It's there. I refuse to walk away from it, because when it first started it was something I looked forward to every week. But for a long time it just hasn't given me the joy it once did, but I refuse to give up thinking it might come back to the glory days but really never does.

Also like owning a gym membership.

I guess I'm the only one that's enjoyed this half of the season?

Multiple interesting plots.

- Negan coming BACK to his cell.
- The Road Warriors (new friends - forces getting bigger).
- Backstory why Machone doesn't trust anyone anymore.
- Whisperers/Beta.

I think you guys just like to bitch about something.
This is one of the best (non drawn out) seasons in a very long time. Not too long ago we were saying Negan and the Governor episodes were too drawn out. This may not be non-stop action but I'm really digging the story line as every episode seems like we're still settling into the new era.

Even though the plot is redundant, they've managed to keep this at least entertaining.

I tend to lean this way as well.

I feel this season has gotten back to the roots of the show (the psychological aspect.....how everyone deals with the zombie apocalypse....the moral compromises....the transformations, etc.).

That all said, besides the whisperers (which have potential), I think they need a new threat (biological, etc.).

I’ve enjoyed this season so far.

im enjoying it as well.

Tonight’s episode was one of the best in a long time. Alpha is savage.

Whoa.

This episode was a punch to the gut. Next season....just unleash....

Damn....the feels......

Yeah.. Wish Daryl would have pushed the bitch off the cliff when he had the chance.. Still think the daughter is going to Alpha eventually... It may take another season to get there though...

I think the daughter is going to kill alpha as payback for Henry.

I fell asleep during the middle of it but caught the end.

I was elated to see that Henry is dead.

I was screaming that exact thing at the TV during that scene.

I'm super excited to see this bad ass Carol again!

This was this seasons' defining moment.

great episode.

Either that or Carol.

It's funny looking back on Henry as a character that just filled in for other characters in the comic - Carl's relationship with Lydia, and a stand-in for Ezekiel's death.

Ok jeez. Finally we get some shit lit. That was one mofo of an episode. Homeboy’s speech at the end was a little much, but damn - how these guys will react will be interesting.

BTW wouldn’t they have all the saviors guns and ammo? Or has so much time passed that they were all used up and obsolete?

It's a bad sign that I had to watch The Talking Dead to find out who most of the piked heads were...or maybe I'm just bad with disembodied heads.

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Sonofabitch! My DVR cut off the recording before it finished. Right after the commercial break after Alpha sat down next to Lydia in the theater. Sound like I missed a hell of an ending. Now I have to find a replay and catch what happened.

But, they have Eugene. They should be making rounds around the clock. Makes little sense to me

I just now found out reading this thread,I thought it was a little odd that this episode according to my DVR was only 1 hour when it's usually like 1:08

Totally disagree about the last point in your spoiler (if we are talking about the same thing) - I LOVED the way they executed it - the people still at the fair wondering where someone was, then the reveal of where that person ended up.

Reminded me of 300.

My DVR cutoff too early too. But I heard the first 30 seconds of talking dead and they made an announcement about it - saved me from hearing it.

But wow - one of the strongest episodes in a long time. I've mentioned it before, but this season has redeemed itself.

Yes, it has flaws (but it always has had them).....but we're back with potentially the best "bad guy" since the Governor.

it wasn't your dvrs' that cut off early. i watched it live, knew it was scheduled for an hour. after the first minute of "Overtime", i knew something was wrong.

Hardwick even said it in the opening minutes of talking dead. i can't speak for satellite, but if you have On Demand with your cable co, you should be able to watch it in its entirety.
sorry if you missed it guys. it really was the best episode of the season.

"I have a feeling...it's gonna be a hard winter" - Alpha

Hey what about the recurring “alpha / beta” themes here. Like with the Jadis helicopter people. Think there’s any connection?

I watched it On Demand last night. There was a lot that happened after my DVR stopped the recording. Great episode and this season has been really good.

Alpha is one scary, crazy bitch. :eek:

Call John Snow!!!!!

Oppps....wrong show...

Finally got to see it in its entirety and agree,it felt like one of those old classic episodes,Herschel's death,the human cattle slaughter from Sanctuary etc.

FTWD with a bit of a chip on its shoulder, showing signs of actual storytelling

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Those winters in Georgia can be a real bitch


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Yeah... This season finale kind of fell flat... The Zombies popping out of the snow didn't make sense with the ones that were frozen...Not sure what happened at the Kingdom to make them move...fire??
Last week's episode was better.

I agree with this ^^^

No cliffhanger ending for the season and a lot of plot holes/bad storytelling IMO.

Why did they have to leave the Kingdom? The boiler blew up or something?

And after 7 seasons with not a snowflake, all of a sudden it's like an arctic blizzard, but wherever the whisperers are it's not.

And why is Alpha getting Adrian Petersoned by Beta? Not sure what she did. Or are we supposed to be guessing?

And any clue as to what the person on the radio was saying/who it was? Not enough for a cliffhanger IMO.

How cold does it have to be for the river to freeze solid enough for them all to cross it safely? Running water just doesn't instantly freeze like that.

I actually liked not having a cliffhanger, outside of whose voice was that on the radio at the end, for the season finale. After the gut punch episode from last week a season finale that just sets the table for next season is a nice change of pace.

I thought they moved north of Georgia a long time ago. Eugene was leading them to DC around season 3 or 4.

You're correct. They are in Virginia in the show world, the show is shot in GA. Most of the winter scenes were probably shot at Tyler Perry's studio.

They had to leave the Kingdon because the pipes kept bursting and they have been running out of supplies all season.

I think the implication is that the Whisperers have moved south. I think there was some time between the heads on sticks situation and that episode. The Whisperers had instructed the others to stay north of the boundary, giving them the option of heading south.

The beating stuff might be over the top, but she said "I'm going to have to be even stronger to do what's coming next".

The person over the radio will obviously be big in season 10.

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Im guessing the person on the radio was Maggie.......or the amazon junkyard woman.

My money is on Maggie.

If it's Jadis (junk woman) then Rick Grimes is back in play since she rescued / saved Rick after he became a re-bar pin cushion.

Not the Commonwealth?

Not anyone from Fear TWD? That was my first thought.

From what I understand, the time jump at the beginning of season 9 (6 years) made that impossible.

So they have snow hurricanes in Georgia now? The debri flying around was near deadly.

Don't worry though, the weather is a help for the living. It's so cold it freezes walkers standing in place and handles freezing the river. However, they do still need to watch out for walkers under the snow. That's the downside to snow. Being above it is deadly, but it's like having a nice warm blanket if you're under it.

In all seriousness, watching the episode I couldn't remember the last one that featured weather having any impact. Rain, snow, wind, etc. It's possible I've completely forgotten about them, but it was actually surprising that I couldn't remember any episode that really had weather in it. It's always Sunny and 70 in Georgia, right?

Unless there is some interesting Negan previews for next season, I'm sticking with being done with the show.

You do realize that they show world right now is in Virginia and not Georgia right?

pretty sure the negan/judith scene is the beginning of the hero's path for negan. I was kinda disappointed to be honest, but you gotta start small for whats coming with the whisperers'.

No, had no idea. That's how closely I'm paying attention to the show. How many seasons have they been in Virginia?

The show takes place in the areas surrounding Washington DC (they went into DC earlier this season). A noreaster isn't out of the question, but yes, they've seemed to avoid winter for the most part. Maybe it happens during hiatus.

As for weather affecting the show, I could only think of a few others...Heat of course when they were in GA. There was a "tornado" on it a couple seasons back. They waited it out in a barn. It's path of "destruction" was literally right beside the barn. I say "tornado" and "destruction" because you could obviously see that all they did was dig up some trees with a back hoe and no actual meteorologists or scientists for that matter where consulted with. Lastly, on Fear they dealt with a "hurricane" last year....same thing with the "tornado." The Fear universe is currently in in-land Texas, a hurricane would not be able to maintain full hurricane strength that far inland...nit picky I know, but still.

They showed why the kingdom fell in the cold open of the episode. The old infrastructure finally gave way. They couldn't repair it any longer.

Gimpel was on Talking Dead and mentioned a couple times that the "two shows" could/would cross paths. I assume he meant Fear and TWD, but he could have meant TWD and the "Rick Movies."

The TWD showrunner, Kang, apparently let a little too much out of the bag in an interview and basically eluded to the person on the other end of the radio being tied to Rick in some way. Many now assume that this will be the gateway for Michonne's exit from the show next season..."I'm going to find Rick/ I'm going to find your daddy." Which would make it acceptable that she would leave her kids behind rather than take them on a dangerous journey. This would also allow for her return later down the road in the "Rick Movies"

In my opinion...and I get this from these recent interviews with Gimple and Kang...the Walking Dead universe (on television at least) is now in view of the proverbial "light at the end of the tunnel." I think they will bring both shows together and then everything comes full circle in the Rick Grimes movies where the entire group fights off one last massive Villain leaving a few of them to ride off into the sunset...3 to 5 years and it's all over IMO.

So all 3 of the communities are in the DC surrounding area? What about Sanctuary? It's kind of become a background show for me, so I'll admit my attention to the details isn't there. Which is why I didn't know that we'd moved on from Georgia.

My main issue with the storm (outside of thinking Georgia now had Snowicanes), was the walkers. Some being frozen standing in place and others laying under snow waiting for someone to walk by so they could pop up.

Yeah, everything is located in the rural areas south of Washington DC/Arlington. We can assume that the Sanctuary is somewhere between the Kingdom and Alexandria because they stopped there last week.

I also noticed the one frozen walker. I didn't really get that either since the others were literally laying in the snow. I didn't go back to look, but that one that Darryl smashed at the end may have already been dead and they were using it as a scare crow for their crops. If not, I guess we now know that freezing them to a super low temp actually kills them.....time to seek out a liquid nitrogen plant :)

Looks like your ADD isn't relegated to the show - there is discussion of them leaving Georgia several seasons ago a few posts above yours LMAO

Damn. LMAO.

In my defense, I really hadn't caught up on the thread before my post. I had 2 or 3 episodes I needed to watch and finally got through them all yesterday.

But, as you can tell, my attentiveness & interest in the show has been steadily declining for quite awhile. I think the last episode I was really interested in was when Rick's group was finally got trapped by the Saviors. I think that was the mid season finale and had the cliff hanger of "who died". 2 seasons ago? 3? I don't remember.

Every since that one, it's been a background show for me, so it's no surprise that I missed a lot of vital info.

Ugh, that was the end of season 6. Glenn and Abraham died in the season premier of season 7, and that turned a ton of people off.

I think that's part of the reason that Rick and Maggie didn't die when they left the show. Not only hold out hope for a return, but if I had to witness Rick die I don't think I'd ever watch again.

I liked the second half of this season better than any in years but there are some trends about the demographics of the characters that I really don't care for.

Also, glad that little shit kid got killed. Also, kill Gabriel pretty please.

Ah, that's right. It was the season finale, not mid season. If I remember correctly, not a whole lot happened all season and then they left the company have of "who died" for like 6/7 months.

A THIRD!!! :rolleyes:

https://www.amc.com/shows/the-walkin...ign=AMC-Weekly

What a shit shkw

They should do Walking Dead Great Plains.


Oh wait. Everyone is heavily armed, plenty of food and water, and a line of sight that extends miles.

1000 yard head shots on zombies and city scum would be plentiful.

Boring.

Enjoyed this season esp the 2nd half. Did they say how many episodes Danai will be in on s10? Curious how or when Rick will be involved. Is there any chance Maggie returns?

No idea who was on the radio. The episode before the finale was one of the best in recent memory. Amazing what good story telling can do versus shock crap. Gimple should've been replaced by Kang 2 years ago.

I am hoping for a Negan redemption at this point. Hope the show stays strong when Michonne is gone to look for Rick.

We didn't see every newer character in the finale like deaf woman and her sister...are we to assume they were there?

Wow, alot of news and a new season 10 trailer. This looks like it could be good. Final season for Danai Gurira as Michonne and Rick Grimes movies will be in theaters. Also if no one knew the TWD comic ended this past month unexpectedly on issue 193. I haven't read it yet...still catching up.

@azalben: Here's a surprise: those #TheWalkingDead Rick Grimes movies won't be coming to TV, they'll be premiering in movie theaters https://decider.com/2019/07/19/walki...site%20buttons via @decider

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