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BigCatDaddy 09-05-2018 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13710539)
I'm not sure it matters at this point dude. The Royals lost 16 million this year and lost millions the past few years. I got alot of heat for this but KC is a fairweather baseball town. They arent winning anything with Duffy and by the time they do he won't be any good. Dump him now take fire from the fans who arent going to the ballpark anyway.

5th highest ratings while having a bottom 2 team just doesn't equate to fair weather fans.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...tar-break/amp/

TLO 09-05-2018 06:47 PM

How's Duffy's arm?

Titty Meat 09-05-2018 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13710569)
5th highest ratings while having a bottom 2 team just doesn't equate to fair weather fans.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...tar-break/amp/

The attendance is terrible and like I said this is now the 3rd year in a row the franchise has lost money. This team isnt competing for ATLEAST 3 years. Why would the Glass family sit back and continue to lose money? Time to trim. Duffy and Perez should be traded.

OKchiefs 09-05-2018 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13710618)
The attendance is terrible and like I said this is now the 3rd year in a row the franchise has lost money. This team isnt competing for ATLEAST 3 years. Why would the Glass family sit back and continue to lose money? Time to trim. Duffy and Perez should be traded.

It'll never happen, so no use debating it. I wanted Duffy traded when he was worth at least something, but now that is out of the question. Duffy has zero value.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-05-2018 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13709381)
Dec 2017. Ahem:

[i]Ain't about the DUI, it's the elbow. He had TJ in June 2012, and the average recurrence is 4.97 years later. He just passed that date.


His 5/65 was heavily backloaded too. He got 5 this year, with 4/60 left. Given his TJ risk and heavy salary, he's a great bet to be dead money in the future.

Because guys with shot elbows have increases in their velocity, right? You're a ****ing dumbass.

Prison Bitch 09-05-2018 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13710830)
Because guys with shot elbows have increases in their velocity, right? You're a ****ing dumbass.

Actually, studies show players coming off TJ show no diff at all in velocity, and actually have increased results:
https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa16/2016/...-john-surgery/


I shouldn't have to teach dipshits how to use Google.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-05-2018 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13710850)
Actually, studies show players coming off TJ show no diff at all in velocity, and actually have increased results:
https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa16/2016/...-john-surgery/


I shouldn't have to teach dipshits how to use Google.

I shouldn't have to teach middle-aged dipshits how to read.

Duffy's velocity in 2017 on his fastball was 92.8. This year it is 93.1. Both years were well after TJ. The post wasn't about TJ improving velocity before and after but indicating that velocity drop is an indicator of UCL damage, or maybe you missed the 10mph drop that Ohtani had Sunday night....right after he blew out his elbow.

Prison Bitch 09-05-2018 10:03 PM

I never said Duffy's elbow was "shot" and I didn't mention velocity so I don't know what we're even arguing.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-05-2018 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13710901)
I never said Duffy's elbow was "shot" and I didn't mention velocity so I don't know what we're even arguing.

....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13709381)
Dec 2017. Ahem:

[i]Ain't about the DUI, it's the elbow. He had TJ in June 2012, and the average recurrence is 4.97 years later. He just passed that date.


His 5/65 was heavily backloaded too. He got 5 this year, with 4/60 left. Given his TJ risk and heavy salary, he's a great bet to be dead money in the future.

You literally bumped this prediction today.

So, what's your point? Is it about his elbow? His velocity shows no indication of UCL damage.

Generally, when people make claims, they offer support for their evidence. You say the problem is his elbow. You offer no support that indicates his elbow is the problem. Then, you misread one of my posts (because you're an imbecile), and now you're claiming that you didn't say anything about his elbow being a problem. That about cover it?

If you're going to argue with people, I'd suggest you learn how to read better and lie less. You'll make an ass out of yourself far less often.

Prison Bitch 09-06-2018 10:05 AM

So we have a pitching fWAR of 3.1 (this moved up from last month when it was 2.6). That means we are basically a team of AAAA pitchers. Trevor Oaks-Skoglund types. This means our pitching has been so shitty, we would only be a 68-94 team with a league average offense.



Or: of the 2,512 seasons in MLB history, we are 19th worst. (Our 2006 team was 3rd worst). This puts us in the 99.3% percentile. For those of you who've heard of "Six Sigma", that's 99.7%.



We are the Six Sigma staff.

Dartgod 09-06-2018 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13709977)
Since the team is in the red again my guess is they try and dump Duffy. Might be a good call with his health concerns and drug abuse issues.

Drug abuse issues?

BWillie 09-06-2018 12:50 PM

Pratto goes 2-3 with a HR, 1 BB followed by a strong outing by Kowar in the playoffs. 5 ip, 1 ER

Do we think the org told him to work on his hit tool most of the early part of the year (which lead to a lower walk rate & swinging at more difficult pitches to see what he can handle), and now that it's playoffs told him to unleash?

KChiefs1 09-06-2018 01:41 PM

Can’t embed but did everyone see this?

https://twitter.com/snytv/status/103...558240256?s=21

BlackHelicopters 09-06-2018 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13709977)
Since the team is in the red again my guess is they try and dump Duffy. Might be a good call with his health concerns and drug abuse issues.

Drug abuse?

BigCatDaddy 09-06-2018 04:22 PM

I think he is referring to the DWI.

LoneWolf 09-06-2018 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13711364)
So we have a pitching fWAR of 3.1 (this moved up from last month when it was 2.6). That means we are basically a team of AAAA pitchers. Trevor Oaks-Skoglund types. This means our pitching has been so shitty, we would only be a 68-94 team with a league average offense.



Or: of the 2,512 seasons in MLB history, we are 19th worst. (Our 2006 team was 3rd worst). This puts us in the 99.3% percentile. For those of you who've heard of "Six Sigma", that's 99.7%.



We are the Six Sigma staff.

Six Sigma is actually 99.99966%.

Prison Bitch 09-06-2018 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 13712176)
Six Sigma is actually 99.99966%.

You're right. It's 3-sigma. Ain't nearly enough data points to ever get to 6-sigma calculations.

Chiefspants 09-07-2018 08:59 PM

Has anyone been following the CRAZY story about how one Tigers announcer almost choked out the other in the booth?!

There were times in 2012 where Ryan seemed close to doing that to Hud lol.

tk13 09-07-2018 09:16 PM

Devastating blow for the White Sox tonight. Their ace pitching prospect Michael Kopech needs Tommy John. He is going to be out all of next year and will return in 2020. He was considered one of the top prospects in all of baseball, throws 100 mph and had just been called up to the White Sox.

Titty Meat 09-08-2018 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13711719)
Drug abuse issues?

There have been whispers around town that he has substance abuse issues. The BK epsiode being the most notable. Besides that he now has a lengthy durability issue and with the team in the red and going nowhere the next 3 years it wouldnt be shocking if they move on. Should have done it while he had value but whatever.

duncan_idaho 09-08-2018 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13714768)
There have been whispers around town that he has substance abuse issues. The BK epsiode being the most notable. Besides that he now has a lengthy durability issue and with the team in the red and going nowhere the next 3 years it wouldnt be shocking if they move on. Should have done it while he had value but whatever.


Duffy was not on anything at the time of the BK drive-thru incident. He was blood-tested and the alcohol was the only thing found, or he would have faced more severe punishment.

Those whispers are just that - whispers.

KC is on the hook for the contract unless they find someone willing to take it. There’s no win for KC to simply move him in a salary dump.

His value was at a peak entering 2017, and they could have traded him then, but kept him to try to take another shot at winning.

If KC is going to do a pure salary dump of a starter, it should be someone like Ian Kennedy who doesn’t have enough upside to make you a big loser in the deal on the back end of it.

Prison Bitch 09-08-2018 10:59 AM

They should dump them both for nothing, if they even can.

duncan_idaho 09-08-2018 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13715034)
They should dump them both for nothing, if they even can.


I’ll buy that on Kennedy. You’re not going to get anything for him and if you can find someone to take on some of the contract, it is worthwhile.

With Duffy, there’s still more upside - and risk that comes with it- in just flat dumping him. He’s still just a good first half or good year away from being someone you can get value for.

The front office can survive overpaying Duffy for a few years while the team is not competitive. What it could not survive is dumping him for nothing and then seeing him perform well for another team.

Not much risk of that with Kennedy... at this point.

tk13 09-08-2018 12:13 PM

You'd almost certainly have to give up something of decent value to get someone to take Kennedy's contract. I'm not optimistic about that at all.

RealSNR 09-08-2018 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13715094)
You'd almost certainly have to give up something of decent value to get someone to take Kennedy's contract. I'm not optimistic about that at all.


How about 2015 ALCS MVP Alcides Escobar???

duncan_idaho 09-08-2018 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13715120)
How about 2015 ALCS MVP Alcides Escobar???


Hopefully he’s gone after this year and they just commit to going young. He’s going to be cheap and likely obtainable on a minor league deal next year.

BigCatDaddy 09-08-2018 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13715122)
Hopefully he’s gone after this year and they just commit to going young. He’s going to be cheap and likely obtainable on a minor league deal next year.

With Whit likely back and Lopez looking ready doesn't he pretty much have to be gone? You have Herrera as a utility guy.

duncan_idaho 09-08-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13715128)
With Whit likely back and Lopez looking ready doesn't he pretty much have to be gone? You have Herrera as a utility guy.


You would think so. But they’re loyal to him.

I was fine with bringing him back this year. They wanted to make Mondesi prove it and thought he needed it for his development. Can’t really argue with that so far.

OKchiefs 09-08-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13715128)
With Whit likely back and Lopez looking ready doesn't he pretty much have to be gone? You have Herrera as a utility guy.

Hopefully Whit is not back, Mondesi and Lopez can man the middle. And yes, I'm assuming we get a rather large return for him. Herrera can be the utility IF guy, and we have other cheap options that can fill in.

BWillie 09-08-2018 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13715215)
Hopefully Whit is not back, Mondesi and Lopez can man the middle. And yes, I'm assuming we get a rather large return for him. Herrera can be the utility IF guy, and we have other cheap options that can fill in.

If they do bring Whit back, we have a pretty solid IF. Whit/Lopez @ 3B, Mondesi at SS, Whit/Lopez at 2B. I see no reason why Lopez/Whit can't play 3b. Whoever has stronger arm out of Whit/Lopez should play it, which I would imagine is Lopez. Ideally Hunter Dozier will play like the Hunter Dozier in the last 3 weeks but I'm not counting on it.

Prison Bitch 09-08-2018 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13715208)
You would think so. But they’re loyal to him.

I was fine with bringing him back this year. They wanted to make Mondesi prove it and thought he needed it for his development. Can’t really argue with that so far.

I wasn't fine with it and you shouldn't have been either, he's a negative WAR player. If your point is you wanted him to block Mondesi for a bit, that's fine, but you can go get a diff vet SS to do that.

Titty Meat 09-08-2018 02:33 PM

Also did anyone hear Ned on with Keitzman yesterday? Always appreciate how hes a straight shooter but he didnt seem confident in coming back next year.

Dartgod 09-08-2018 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13714768)
There have been whispers around town that he has substance abuse issues. The BK epsiode being the most notable. cking if they move on. Should have done it while he had value but whatever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13714869)
Duffy was not on anything at the time of the BK drive-thru incident. He was blood-tested and the alcohol was the only thing found, or he would have faced more severe punishment.

Those whispers are just that - whispers.

So Billay is full of shit...like usual.

Titty Meat 09-08-2018 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13715290)
So Billay is full of shit...like usual.

How am I full of shit? It's what I heard. Do you even live in Kansas City?

Dartgod 09-08-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13715294)
How am I full of shit? It's what I heard. Do you even live in Kansas City?

You're full of shit because you're throwing out unfounded rumors as fact.

Technically no, I live in the KC Metro area. And this is the first time I've heard of it. Probably because it's bullshit.

Sure-Oz 09-08-2018 06:05 PM

@mlbtrroyals: Heyman: Royals Plan To Offer Ned Yost One-Year Extension http://dlvr.it/QjZ9k0

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Jerok 09-08-2018 06:27 PM

Lopez with a perfect game through 5!

Edit: Through 6!

zigbazah 09-08-2018 07:08 PM

7!

Three7s 09-08-2018 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 13715569)
Lopez with a perfect game through 5!

Edit: Through 6!

Through 7

Chiefspants 09-08-2018 07:09 PM

UH

big nasty kcnut 09-08-2018 07:09 PM

Lopez perfect thru 7. Oh hell yeah!

RealSNR 09-08-2018 07:22 PM

This is insane!

Mother****erJones 09-08-2018 07:23 PM

Hope he does it tonight. Someone needs to have a bright spot because the hits for the White Sox keep coming after another devastating injury.

RealSNR 09-08-2018 07:25 PM

MAKE THAT 8

suzzer99 09-08-2018 07:25 PM

Anyone know a good place for a stream of the Royals game?

zigbazah 09-08-2018 07:25 PM

8

C3HIEF3S 09-08-2018 07:26 PM

Paint.

Red Dawg 09-08-2018 07:26 PM

Holy **** this is awesome. This would be really ****ing great.

Three7s 09-08-2018 07:27 PM

That pitch was picture perfect.

MrGiggity 09-08-2018 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 13715699)
Anyone know a good place for a stream of the Royals game?

http://mlbstreams.net/kansas-city-ro...b-live-stream/

Jerok 09-08-2018 07:28 PM

I'm so excited, I haven't been this into a Royals game since game 5

Chiefspants 09-08-2018 07:30 PM

UHHH

big nasty kcnut 09-08-2018 07:30 PM

This is happening folks!!!!!!!! Holy crap!

Three7s 09-08-2018 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 13715713)
I'm so excited, I haven't been this into a Royals game since game 5

I know, right? The instant I read perfect through 6, I just dropped everything and said "IN!".

ChiTown 09-08-2018 07:32 PM

This is awesome

Al Bundy 09-08-2018 07:39 PM

Headed to the bottom of the 9th...

ChiefsCountry 09-08-2018 07:40 PM

Welp here we go....

suzzer99 09-08-2018 07:41 PM

Make up strike.

suzzer99 09-08-2018 07:42 PM

This dude's a dick for not going up there hacking.

Coach 09-08-2018 07:42 PM

****.

Well, at least the other thing is still in play.

Red Dawg 09-08-2018 07:43 PM

What the ****? Just throw down the middle and take your chances.

dlphg9 09-08-2018 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 13715755)
This dude's a dick for not going up there hacking.

****ing idiot just stood up there with the bat the shoulder

Al Bundy 09-08-2018 07:45 PM

They can't even do this right... Bring in Brandon Maurer and lose.

ChiefsCountry 09-08-2018 07:45 PM

Now its 2018 Royals time to blow a perfect game through 8 in the 9th.

Red Dawg 09-08-2018 07:51 PM

I don't get it. 3 outs from a perfect game and they got cute. Just throw hard down the middle and take your shot.

Kidd Lex 09-08-2018 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13715804)
I don't get it. 3 outs from a perfect game and they got cute. Just throw hard down the middle and take your shot.

That's not how pitching works. Third time through the order you have to reinvent yourself, and find ways to get guys out. Throw down the middle against mlb hitters....not good.

RealSNR 09-08-2018 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13715804)
I don't get it. 3 outs from a perfect game and they got cute. Just throw hard down the middle and take your shot.

Were you always this much of a dumbass when you were Tuckdaddy?

ChiefsCountry 09-08-2018 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13715815)
Were you always this much of a dumbass when you were Tuckdaddy?

Yes he has always been a ****ing idiot.

tk13 09-08-2018 07:57 PM

The guy was making his 7th career start. I'm sure his nerves were probably cranked up to 15 in that last inning. Even if he wanted to throw it right down the middle it's not exactly easy. I'd love to know the number of pitchers who took a perfect game into the 9th inning in one of their first 10 career starts. It has to be a pretty small list.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-08-2018 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13715827)
The guy was making his 7th career start. I'm sure his nerves were probably cranked up to 15 in that last inning. Even if he wanted to throw it right down the middle it's not exactly easy. I'd love to know the number of pitchers who took a perfect game into the 9th inning in one of their first 10 career starts. It has to be a pretty small list.

Wacha took a no-hitter into his 9th career start against the Nationals and lost it on an infield single with two outs.

Jose Jimenez threw a no-no in start fifteen, and Bud Smith did in his 11th.

Not perfect games, though.

duncan_idaho 09-08-2018 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13715294)
How am I full of shit? It's what I heard. Do you even live in Kansas City?


What you heard was really ****ing wrong.

Al Bundy 09-08-2018 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The GMDM Hypothesis (Post 13715812)
That's not how pitching works. Third time through the order you have to reinvent yourself, and find ways to get guys out. Throw down the middle against mlb hitters....not good.

The first batter wasn't going to take the bat off his shoulders under any circumstance.

tk13 09-08-2018 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13715876)
Wacha took a no-hitter into his 9th career start against the Nationals and lost it on an infield single with two outs.

Jose Jimenez threw a no-no in start fifteen, and Bud Smith did in his 11th.

Not perfect games, though.

Yeah I was thinking Bud Smith was a guy who threw one early in his career. I didn't realize Wacha's was even earlier.

Then again Kerry Wood's 20 K game was like in his 5th start and that might arguably be the best pitching performance ever.

Red Dawg 09-08-2018 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13715820)
Yes he has always been a ****ing idiot.

Are all of you this ****ing stupid? It's the 9th you dumb shit. A walk ruins it all. Throw strikes is the only answer. What the **** is wring you dipshits. Take your shot with defense and the batter wanting to help maybe. Seriously they wouldn't bunt. Idiots on this board.

Red Dawg 09-08-2018 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13715820)
Yes he has always been a ****ing idiot.

You are a ****ing idiot. He should have just thrown strikes for obvious reasons. **** off.

Kidd Lex 09-08-2018 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13715911)
Are all of you this ****ing stupid? It's the 9th you dumb shit. A walk ruins it all. Throw strikes is the only answer. What the **** is wring you dipshits. Take your shot with defense and the batter wanting to help maybe. Seriously they wouldn't bunt. Idiots on this board.

I know pitching, I pitched through college. Its not as easy as it looks, and I cant even fathom what its like for a pro player the 3rd time through the order with a perfect game on the line in your 1st 10 starts. But yeah. just throw it down the middle you pos seems reasonable.

BigCatDaddy 09-08-2018 08:26 PM

You dont groove one with a perfect game on the line LMAO

Red Dawg 09-08-2018 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The GMDM Hypothesis (Post 13715920)
I know pitching, I pitched through college. Its not as easy as it looks, and I cant even fathom what its like for a pro player the 3rd time through the order with a perfect game on the line in your 1st 10 starts. But yeah. just throw it down the middle you pos seems reasonable.

Strikes, doesn't mean just throw up meat balls. You can't afford a walk. He threw two in the damn dirt hoping for swings and he didn't have to. They were not going to try and **** up the game. But of course the internet potchers from highschool say stupid shit like reinvent yourself in the 9th on a peefect game run
Dumb ****s.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-08-2018 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13715905)
Yeah I was thinking Bud Smith was a guy who threw one early in his career. I didn't realize Wacha's was even earlier.

Then again Kerry Wood's 20 K game was like in his 5th start and that might arguably be the best pitching performance ever.

I think it was the highest by game score.

Kidd Lex 09-08-2018 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13715804)
I don't get it. 3 outs from a perfect game and they got cute. Just throw hard down the middle and take your shot.

The middle of the plate is meatball city in the pros.


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