When you take into account the draft capital and the contract he got, then he definitely sucks.

Regardless were going to need him to be more productive vs Allen and Brady/Rodgers if we make it to the superbowl

No, that's not how it works. He is an above average at his position, 20th ranked in the league, for what he's paid, he should be at least in the top 5, but he is far from sucking.

He does suck when you take into account his production with what he is being paid.

Sorry but "suck" is an absolute term, not relative.

He either sucks or he doesn't. What he's getting paid has no bearing on the assessment.

He is underperforming, for sure, but he doesn't "suck".

Well, he sure ****ing sucked against the Browns.

For all the whining in the game thread about lack of pressure.....it sure seemed like we were getting decent pressure on Mayfield.

people forget what Dee Ford's run D was like. Clark does a good job setting the edge. Defense is overall better because of him. Sacks may come but the scheme seems to be generally working and if he's staying in the scheme, then what's the problem?

Yeah, he looked like he fit right in with Danna and Wharton.

The problem is that he's being paid 100M and the chiefs gave up a 1st and 2nd round pick for him. If the chiefs just wanted someone who could "set the edge" and play within the scheme, they could have gotten that for much cheaper and have had tens of millions to spend elsewhere.

At this point Veach should just go ahead and plant a heaping helping of booger sugar in his car so we can void that guaranteed money.

I don't give a shit about his run defense. That's to be expected of him with what he's being paid.

Go sack the QB. Alot.

I dunno what the deal is with pass rushers these days, but they don't seem to be what they were even 5 years ago in terms of production. Khalil Mack had a down year for him.

Is it just easier to neutralize outside guys?

Except when he starts missing playoff games, like last week, he loses his usefulness.

Wtf are you talking about? Do we not have a thread starting just a couple months ago titled something like "What is going on with the defense?" In which we have a bunch of people just bitching about players, coaching, etc.

Do we not have a group of the usual nitwits in the gdt posting "this defense is trash," every single week? We even had a thread earlier this season about CP's dissatisfaction with Thornhill.

And yes, we even had a thread bitching about CEH.

these are all facts. And unless you've been living under a virtual rock here on CP, you know that's all true.

And the Butker thread is just stupid. The Team is 23/24 or whatever, not one game has been decided by an XP in the Mahomes era, and in spite of missing 6 XPs or whatever, he's posted his best percentage on FGs of his career. In spite of the fact that he's working with a new holder, after having the same guy for 3 years.

Like I said, some people have to bitch.

So you think it was just happy circumstance that Baker didn't roll out to his left when Clark was lined up over his LT? Even though Baker's best numbers come from when he rolls out left? Even thoughBaker admitted in the pre-game interview before the PIT game that Stefanski has been making a point of rolling Baker out to his left all season? So much so that they had a joke between themselves about it? And suddenly they decide they aren't going to do it, except when 55 isn't lined up there? Even though more than 30% of Baker's TDs/chunk yardage were off the PA-rollout left?

It was just a lucky coincidence that Clark spent almost the whole game lined up over the LT? Including the last 11 in a row?

Okay. Makes sense.

This has been a trend for a few years now. QB s are getting rid of the ball earlier. Lok at Brady for the last few years in NE. He's been gradually decreasing the time between snap-to-throw for at least a couple seasons now. Last year when we played him, someone in the pregame said he had reached a career-low for that time, 2.4 seconds?

Rothlisberger was averaging 2.2 seconds this season. Baker about the same, but he threw a lot of passes in under 2 seconds vs. PIT. And the best sack-rate DL couldn't get a single sack, and just a few pressures. I'm not sure they recorded a hit.

Now part of that you could say had to do with the fact that CLE finished the season with the best OL, if you believe ESPN, FOXSports, PFF, etc. And their back-ups might be the best in football, since they replaced their LT and one of their Gs (one of them twice ) in that game, and PIT still couldn't get to Baker.

Whatever. Point is, that yeah there's a trend of QBs throwing quicker. A lot of OCs have built their schemes on the idea. Not all teams yet, maybe not even a majority, but look at GB, for example. LaFleur has built a running game, and a quick pass offense. TB is finally trending that way.

Bottom line, no DL is getting to the QB in 2.5 seconds.

Anyone that was paying attention knew we weren't going to get a bunch of sacks vs. CLE. As I posted in the "LTACLE" thread, We'd be lucky to get a couple sacks (and that Sneed would probably get it, so I'm psychic I guess), but the important thing would be to make Baker uncomfortable, by taking away his roll out to the left, since that was basically his best 'punch,' don't let him escape into the flat behind an undisciplined rush, defend the HB screens better than PIT did.

Not rocket science. If the best DL in football couldn't record a sack vs. CLE, and they got taken to the woodshed by allowing L-rollouts and HB screens between the hashes, Spags would've been an idiot to try and expend extra resources/gameplan to sack Baker.

Lucky for us he's not that dumb.

EDIT: Correction, Spags would've been Bob Sutton. Thank God he's not.

That's fine so let me be more clear Mr English Professor. Frank Clark is trash for what he makes. You can't hold Frank Clark to same standard that you do a guy making half his salary. Not to mentioned we gave up some draft picks for him.

Still waiting for 'playoff' Frank Clark to show up. You guys were telling me all year he was saving himself for playoffs. Okay so against the Browns he did shit lets see what he does against the Bills.

Yeah it's a coincidence. And confirmation bias on your part. Just like how you think he gets doubled and chipped a lot when in reality he's one of the least doubled edge players in the league (gets doubled at basically the same rate as Kpass). Also how you think teams run away from him when in reality they're just running to their strong side and he's usually on the weak side.

I haven't watched the game again to see that specific point about the roll outs, but I'm sure the same applies here.

Wonder what the mathematically odds are that CLE would accidentally run virtually every roll out away from Clark? Or what the odds are that they would stop running rollouts to the left when he was on the left? When it was their most successful design?

I'll bet it's not very good.

Actually, I've been saying all year that they need to find a way to reduce Clark's cap hit or cut him after 2021. I'm not all that interested in defending his play, which isn't up to snuff.

However, this place throws out words like "suck" and "trash" with ridiculous frequency. It's adolescent at best.

He was feeling good today during the press conference.

Know how I know you don't understand football?

You must be new here :D

:D

You suck:):drool:

How?

I understand the hate last year the first 8 games...but how anyone could hate him now...or not want him to be a Chief for life is dumb. .

in other news

This shirt!!!

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Playoff sack!

Frank ****ing Clark

6 sacks in 5 playoff games as a Chief.

Guys is that good?

TWO SACKS BITCHES

BOW DOWN TO CLARK THE SHARK

https://i.imgur.com/DhpVjOa.gif

Worth....every ****ing penny.

Yes...especially with the Def. scheme we are playing...

2 sacks tonight... pressured Allen numerous times, all while remaining disciplined with his approach.

Effort honestly looked next level. There are definitely times when he just ‘turns it on’, for whatever reason...

Need 4 more quarters.

I stand corrected.

7 (SEVEN!) sacks in 5 playoff playoff games as a Chief.

Dude has been underwhelming in the regular season, but damn he freaking balls out in the playoffs. I’m a big fan of playoff Frank.

Lol haters

Playoff Frank is the best Frank.

No he doesn't.

Anyone who hates him after his post-AFCCG interview last year is a shortsighted punk ass bitch.

FRANK THE SHARK CLARK LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

He's a rich man's Dan Sorensen. Dude just balls in the playoffs.

YAS

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark was asked if he had a message for Tom Brady: &quot;I don&#39;t have anything to say to him, honestly. I&#39;ll see his ass on Sunday at the Super Bowl.&quot;</p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1353559590013693952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Clark is ready!!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Won not done. �� <a href="https://t.co/1qXXfiIzDb">pic.twitter.com/1qXXfiIzDb</a></p>&mdash; Frank Clark (@TheRealFrankC_) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_/status/1353560995113930752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KING

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Great game today.

That's one badass coat. He is gonna get some nasty tweets from Peta

Once again, Clark shows up in the big moments.

THAT SHIRT!!!!! WHERE CAN I GET THAT SHIRT?!?!

That is clearly correct.

Black Elvis took Buffalo to the Heartbreak Hotel

It's ok Primus sucks too

LMAO

I'd pay money to see his reactions to PETA tweets.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealFrankC_</a> is an entire mood ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RunItBack?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RunItBack</a> <a href="https://t.co/Da6O92Imy7">pic.twitter.com/Da6O92Imy7</a></p>&mdash; Megan Strickland (@StricklyMeg) <a href="https://twitter.com/StricklyMeg/status/1353545828456165376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://youtu.be/pAuQlW7-QXs

Clark at the end saying to Brady I’ll see his ass on Sunday during the Super Bowl.

Let's hear from the shitbird crowd: "oh, but they were only coverage sacks!"

C'mon, ****tards, get it out now. God knows you need your moment. Not like you can shit on Butker. Gotta find something to piss and moan about.

So far you're the only one pissing and moaning LMAO

LMAO...

You got me there. Nicely played.:p

https://twitter.com/pff/status/1353734652297699328?s=21

Tied for most pressures in last two playoffs with Nick Bosa.

Let me help you with that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark: 22 total pressures in the playoffs over the last two seasons <br><br>T-1st w/ Nick Bosa <a href="https://t.co/77A5tLiwMi">pic.twitter.com/77A5tLiwMi</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1353734652297699328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Thanks

Can’t ever embed from the phone it seems

Funny how the usual suspects are either nowhere to be found or had very little to say about his performance...

Bosa didn't even play this year's playoffs. He had 22 pressures in three games last year? That's scary.

Had like 10-11 in the Super Bowl alone.

Ideally Clark will continue to play his best, but I just hope we don't have a repeat of what happened the last time we played the Buccaneers. Clark was an absolute idiot that game and I still don't really understand what went on mentally there.

60 minutes away.

IIRC it was against a 3rd string OL too.

Clark played a great game, credit where it's due. He looked like a $100m end. I was a bit worried as I noticed he was getting stonewalled a lot in the 1st quarter but he turned up down the stretch.

Honestly, the whole DL played an insane game. Everyone was getting pressure.

Clark is still taking the widest arc I've ever seen on a lineman. He is about 15 yards away at his widest point. Wondering if he lost strength and trying to beat with speed he doesn't have.

He was ready for war Sunday night:

https://i.ibb.co/NYF8Jmg/Frank.png

Lol imagine being worried about Clark AFTER Sunday....

I'm just enjoying the ride right now. I don't really feel like getting into this we are about to repeat as SB champs.

I still don't like the Clark trade. How anyone can be excited about this guy who shows up 10% of the season is beyond me.

LMAO

That’s because you’re a ****ing idiot.

Clark is going to butt**** Tom Pedy

You're entitled to your opinion.

End of day you're just a fan posting on a message board just like me. Just because your fantasy football team does better than your boyfriends doesn't make you some football genius. So go **** yourself.

That said - Clark is a Chief. I'm rooting for him. He did great last Sunday. Hopefully he ****s up Brady on SB Sunday. Lets get it!

see if u can spot the differences in these 2 pictures. .

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