We pretty ****ing deep, that's for sure!

Plodding runner.

Nothing exciting there, Hog. Appreciate the enthusiasm, though.

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Ha! Cole agrees. That makes me right!


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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs are officially declining the fifth-year option for the 2024 season for RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire, a source tells Chiefs Digest.<br><br>Clyde remains under contract with the Chiefs for 2023, and on Monday GM Brett Veach said CEH is in tremendous shape. <a href="https://t.co/hkMibKnsAB">https://t.co/hkMibKnsAB</a></p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1653445179494236183?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What team function did Mahones miss to go to that? It's not exactly the same thing.

Glad they declined and hopefully cut his ass after training camp

I don't want CEH on this team but it's solely about football for me.

The people bitching about him going to New York just aren't thinking it through.

They want to complain that he didn't fulfill his contractual obligation to the Chiefs by missing the parade. They ignore the fact that he signed a CONTRACT for the show in New York. Contracts are contracts. You can't honor one and not the other and not be a ****ing hypocrite.

They completely forget that Clyde was still on IR just DAYS before the SB and for all he and the team knew, he wasn't even going to suit up. And then you have to consider that they also didn't know that they were even going to have a parade until after the game is over.

People want to say "this is business" when it benefits their favorite team but when it's applicable to a player they don't like, consistent logic gets thrown out the window.

Funny. You expect consistent logic from fans?

True, but considering KC was in the SB there was a 50/50 shot they were going to win which means there was going to be a parade afterwards. Would have been a little bit wiser to have the SB and the week after open on your calendar, just in case. Would be different if this was scheduled in week 5 or something.

It worked for the Raiders and Jacobs. Hope for similar results here for him.

Methinks expecting logic at all from a group of people that are "fanatics" by definition is a fool's errand. :D

Again, he was on IR. He wasn't traveling with the team. Sure, he could have kept his schedule open but why? So he could make a token appearance as a guy that literally contributed nothing to a Super Bowl run and appease the fans?

He's average at best, so no

I honestly felt like the longer CEH has been here the worse he has looked, and I wondered how much of that had to do with our RB coach. Though we have appeared to replace an ex WR with another ex WR to coach RB's.

I don't even think his roster spot is guarantied at this point, and being active on game day is even less likely, but if a new coach can change a player...

Yes. Because he was a member of this team. It would have been his first and possibly only SB parade and while he had nothing to do with the SB win, he was a key player when healthy earlier in the season.

I don't hate CEH like others (although I don't want him taking a spot from someone else anymore), but I bet he is at the ring ceremony and takes his ring despite contributing nothing to a SB run. And he should as he was part of the team and I think he should have celebrated with his teammates and the fans.

It does NOT make sense to cut Clyde Edwards-Helaire or give him away.

It would cost the Chiefs $2,577,503 in dead money to cut.

KC does not have an overflowing RB room where we have too much talent.

Since the Chiefs did not draft a running back, it would appear like KC plans to keep him for one more year with a cap charge of $3,443,229. To trade CEH, the Chiefs could save $2,085,670 and have $1,357,559 of dead money. Again, trading him for value might be OK but just throwing him away, like some want to do, does not make sense.

Clyde will be playing for his football life in 2023 so I think we will see his best effort.

Clyde's best season was in 2020 with 13 games, 181 carries, 803 yards, 4 TDs, 36 Rec, 297 yards, 1 TD. With Isiah Pacheco starting we won't see that kind of production, but we could still see a decent back to add with Isiah and Jerick.

Can we also decline this turd's 4th year option too?

Christ you're a moron. You make it sound like the fashion show couldn't go on without some broke dick JAG NFL player showing up to it. People don't show up to places they're contractually obligated to all the time. It makes far more sense for the company for Clyde to turn up to the parade wearing the shitty clothes he's promoting than attend some show no one knows or cares about.

Brett Veach on Clyde Edwards-Helaire-

“We’re excited though for Clyde this season. He was actually the first guy I saw in the building today, in tremendous shape."

“He’s a good football player. He’s going to help us out here, again, with these guys we have a list of things to do with a bunch of these guys and now that the draft is officially ended in the next coming weeks now’s the time we go through all that stuff and start making our plans for the future. But needless to say, we’re excited to have him back in the building today and look forward to hopefully a healthy 2023 campaign for him.”

Coach's speak, bro.

There's no possible way they see anything in their former 1st round selection that would get them excited about a healthy season.

To celebrate with the team and fans, he would have had to break an existing contract.

So you want him to honor one but not the other? Surely you can see the flaw in that thinking.

ROFL

No need to think, just emote. I feel, I feel!

I think htismaqe anticipated Womble just 6 posts ahead.

Dude, I never said they think he's a bum. Far from it, in fact.

I'm sure they're wanting him to contribute but since they declined his 5th-year option that they're much more concerned with him just keeping a roster spot at this point.

Not at all. I am just saying that the better choice would have been to not put himself in that position in the first place. I get that he was on the IR, and had KC not been playing in the SB, then him making that fashion show would have made sense. Now scheduling it when KC has at worst a 50% chance of winning and knowing a parade would follow speaks poorly for him. Sure he didn't play, but there were others on the roster who didn't either and yet they were probably at the parade. This whole thing is a bad look for CEH and screams pettiness.

Do they schedule fashion shows on a 2 weeks notice?

Don't know. Regardless though to contractually obligate oneself to it knowing the schedule (as SB Sunday would have been before the season started) and the possibility of playing in and winning the SB is poor thinking.

So regardless of when he committed to actually participating in a fashion show, he should have taken into account the possibility that in the future the Chiefs could possibly win the SB and the parade could possibly be scheduled for the very day he was obligated to appear?

Grow the **** up.

No one inside the organization seems to give a flying **** about him missing the parade.

Yes.

Grow up how? I lost and continue to lose no sleep over his appearance or not. I was commenting to someone else about what the wiser decision was. Amazing how many players had their calendars open for that parade except CEH.

Also glad you have the inside scoop on how the organization felt about it. Please share more of your in depth coverage over the inner workings of the front office.

Well there hasn't been a single comment from anyone about him not being there, either for or against. You can take it for what you want, but to me that means no one really gives a shit. The only people who do are Karens on the internet.

It could be. If the Chiefs plan to trade CEH, Brett certainly wants to paint the best picture of him.

I think Chiefs will use training camp and preseason to see what they have at RB.

As they are right now though, I think he will be on the Chiefs next season.

I understand people being disappointed in Clyde, but it does no good to throw him away.

Exactly. All the team has said publicly is that they're ready to get him back and participate in camp. They don't give a shit about where he was during the Super Bowl parade.

Clyde is nice depth to have, certainly not worthy of his draft status but that's really not his fault. As the #3 back he's just fine. We have a crew that can all contribute and I'm sure we'll need him at some point this season.

Clyde Edwards-Helaire RB Via Spotrac

salary dead cap cap hit
$1,985,670 ($2,577,502) $3,443,228

crazy :banghead:

When you say depth are you referring to his height?

No need to think, just emote. I feel, I feel!

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Dunno how much his injuries derailed him but he ended up being an awful pick. Feel bad for him but he was abject last year, glad we're not picking up his 5th.

Khalen Saunders was the Terez Paylor "contract year is undefeated" Chiefs player of the year in 2022.

Love to see Clyde be the 2023 guy and drive folks crazy.

Much as I've soured on the guy, if he's in top shape and motivated to rehab his reputation for another team next year... we could do worse than to have him in the rotation again

No learning curve with the system, surprisingly good around the goal line etc

So Veach says Clyde came back in tremendous shape, Clyde see's that he lost the starting job. Clyde didn't get his 5th year extension.

If he's worth a shit he's going to be ultra motivated to perform.

I don't hate the guy but I think a change of scenery would be good for both CEH and the Chiefs. This is the season for him to promote himself which would be good for both parties in that respect.

The turd that would not flush! CEH - damn, we could have had Johnathan Taylor :cuss: BUT, Mahomes wanted him so... I forgive! :wayne:

Ubeja and Jonathan Taylor suck forever.

Johnathan Taylor had a ton of carries in college. The worry with him was whether or not he could continue to stay healthy with that kind of workload.

Not surprising at all that he missed 6 games in 2022 and still isn't fully healthy for they offseason program.

He also fumbled 18 times in 41 games in college.

Over the last two years, he's fumbled 6 times in 28 games.

Guy needs to go **** himself. Pouted his ass off by skipping the parade and also selfish. Dead to me.

This could be a great PR move. The wingnuts will be up in arms over the furs. Clyde is cut and the Indian slander claims are put on the back burner

**** you Clyde

https://twitter.com/tkyles39/status/1700156280151617818

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Holy shit, that cutback lane...

Oh wow CEH having no ****ing vision..... WHO COULD SEE THAT COMING

LMAO

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I'd like to apologise to my fellow Chiefs fans for praising CEH last night by saying he had an average game. I have erred and strayed from thy ways like lost sheep. Never again will I even contemplate that he's anything but dogshit. **** off Clyde.

Why God? Why?

Holy shit, that might be the worst run I've ever seen. That includes fumbles and the RB tripping over his own feet. He actually looks at that gaping, prolapsed hole of a cutback lane and decides to ignore it.

That ****ing cutback lane.

Christ, what a terrible RB.

LMAO That's just hilarious.

Dude has NO instincts or vision, keeping him around is Veach's worst decision of the year

FWIW ...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;ve been harsh on CEH but I will defend him here. By the time he turns his shoulders north that LB and safety are on him asap. They&#39;d be unblocked. The IOL gets push and I understand why he followed them. <a href="https://t.co/osO6R99LpB">https://t.co/osO6R99LpB</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1700166672848421145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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I mean the cutback is huge, but that zone running play from a shotgun formation doesn't allow for him to make much of a cutback. At least not an efficient one. The play forces him to be running so laterally that by the time he makes the cutback, the LB and S would negate much of the hole. CEH isn't exactly a burner, so it's not like he could have outrun them.

I hate CEH as much as anyone else, but this play doesn't get me all that riled up.

The cutback was broke. He did what he was supposed to there and follow his blockers to have them flush the DL and LB's out. You even see him peek the between Thuney and Creed but choose to let the OL try to do their thing and went between Creed and Trey.

And **** any Patriots beat reporter, that includes Taylor Kyles.

That hole was so damn big that MEH should've instinctively hit it. His #1 trait coming out of LSU was his ability to "make a guy miss him in a phone booth".

The key words in this shitty tweet that CEH apologists are missing is "by the time". It's an appalling play.

They had to play Clyde bc Pacheco got injured again coming off rust and McKinnon needs to used on passing downs bc he's old.

It was a mistake putting Clyde ont he roster over Perine. This is reminding me of player loyalty from the King Carl era.

**** your pride Veach. It's time for a change

Jamaal Charles saw cutback lanes that were a fraction that size. If it takes you so long to turn your shoulders and recognize the hole that a 1 on 1 opportunity scares you, you're not an NFL back.

Exactly. All that highlights is his lack of vision And his lack of explosiveness if he ever does see a hole open up.

Not going to defend CEH because he sucks and a good RB hits that cutback for a few more yards than what he ended up getting, but CJGJ is a great tackler. The chances of CEH getting more than a couple yards out of that with him there were slim.

EDIT: Looks like Anzalone was unblocked waiting on the cutback as well.

Clyde is the worst RB I've ever seen. I'm not even kidding.

He's not fast. He's not big. No big play ability. Not a force in short yardage situations.

Just a real piece of shit.

4321CEH

It's that simple!

We seem to have a problem finding RBs that have vision.

Need cap space to cut MEH.

Remember when making guys miss was allegedly MEH's greatest strength?

No.
Maybe some sportswriter said it about him in college, but sportswriters say a lot of stupid shit. MEH ain't shifty... or fast... or powerful... but he makes up for it by having zero vision.

I'd hate to bother CEH with a request for him to, you know, make a guy miss or, heaven forbid, break a tackle

The best thing about CEH getting touches is that it helps shake out the opinion of those who know not shit about tackle football as it is played in the National Football League.

Like the dopes who said Pacheco should get 20 carries a game last year. Like injuries are not a possibility for a RB in today's NFL.

Anyone saying he shouldn't have taken the cut back are reeruned. The cut back is a easy 4 yard before CONTACT

I meant during the draft process. It was stated over and over (and over) that MEH was super elusive, especially in small areas. He looked the part in college, but it sure as **** didn't translate to the NFL.