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BigCatDaddy 06-21-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 13601535)
That seems like their solution, not identification of the problem.

I am not sure how you can infer anything other than then realizing epsiode 8 may have killed the franchise so they better nail 9.

Beef Supreme 06-21-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13601545)
I am not sure how you can infer anything other than then realizing epsiode 8 may have killed the franchise so they better nail 9.

That's what I infer. I'm not convinced that's what they infer.

BigCatDaddy 06-21-2018 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 13601551)
That's what I infer. I'm not convinced that's what they infer.

Gotcha.. we shall see but it appears signs are pointing that direction.

JD10367 06-21-2018 08:13 PM

I'm not sure the franchise is saveable at this point. 7 and 8 have ****ed it up beyond recognition. Carbon copy of the first film, forced SJW issues (spunky girl heroine, black guy, Asian chick, girl power, oppression, etc.,.), bad acting (another weak emo bad guy, as if Hayden C. didn't teach them that lesson), stupid plotlines (slow space chase), wasted deaths of major iconic characters (Han, Luke), sudden bizarre powers (floating Leia, astral projecting Luke)... Where do they go with this cluster****? Honestly, with Carrie Fisher dead they can't even do much with Leia, and I don't give a rat's ass what happens to Rey, Finn, Poe, and Kylo Ren. Honestly, the only way to rescue the franchise would be to start 9 with Luke in the shower like "Dallas" saying that 7 and 8 were a dream...

Al Bundy 06-21-2018 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 13601951)
I'm not sure the franchise is saveable at this point. 7 and 8 have ****ed it up beyond recognition. Carbon copy of the first film, forced SJW issues (spunky girl heroine, black guy, Asian chick, girl power, oppression, etc.,.), bad acting (another weak emo bad guy, as if Hayden C. didn't teach them that lesson), stupid plotlines (slow space chase), wasted deaths of major iconic characters (Han, Luke), sudden bizarre powers (floating Leia, astral projecting Luke)... Where do they go with this cluster****? Honestly, with Carrie Fisher dead they can't even do much with Leia, and I don't give a rat's ass what happens to Rey, Finn, Poe, and Kylo Ren. Honestly, the only way to rescue the franchise would be to start 9 with Luke in the shower like "Dallas" saying that 7 and 8 were a dream...

Biggest bullshit copout by angry white dudes.

banecat 06-21-2018 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 13601990)
Biggest bullshit copout by angry white dudes.

Probably not. It's obvious that shit was all forced in. They're trying to please everyone in the effort to whore for more money. The true fan will always get left behind and lose interest

Al Bundy 06-21-2018 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by banecat (Post 13602012)
Probably not. It's obvious that shit was all forced in. They're trying to please everyone in the effort to whore for more money. The true fan will always get left behind and lose interest

Ehh they always had a woman as one of the lead characters. I don't buy the SJW excuse. The movies mentioned weren't great, but they were good. I guess I just don't notice the sex/race of the hero's/bad guys of the movies.

BigCatDaddy 06-21-2018 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 13602018)
Ehh they always had a woman as one of the lead characters. I don't buy the SJW excuse. The movies mentioned weren't great, but they were good. I guess I just don't notice the sex/race of the hero's/bad guys of the movies.

I usually don't notice either unless they are completely different. That is forced shit.

Rams Fan 06-21-2018 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 13601951)
I'm not sure the franchise is saveable at this point. 7 and 8 have ****ed it up beyond recognition. Carbon copy of the first film, forced SJW issues (spunky girl heroine, black guy, Asian chick, girl power, oppression, etc.,.), bad acting (another weak emo bad guy, as if Hayden C. didn't teach them that lesson), stupid plotlines (slow space chase), wasted deaths of major iconic characters (Han, Luke), sudden bizarre powers (floating Leia, astral projecting Luke)... Where do they go with this cluster****? Honestly, with Carrie Fisher dead they can't even do much with Leia, and I don't give a rat's ass what happens to Rey, Finn, Poe, and Kylo Ren. Honestly, the only way to rescue the franchise would be to start 9 with Luke in the shower like "Dallas" saying that 7 and 8 were a dream...

Kylo was awesome in TLJ and Daisey Ridley has been fantastic as Rey.

Finn was fine in TFA but I think his character didn't mean shit in TLJ due to the forced romance plot with Rose.

And if you're going to talk about SJW shit, then talk shit about Solo and L3. That was way more SJWey, IMO, then either TFA or TLJ.

Frazod 06-21-2018 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 13602035)
Kylo was awesome in TLJ and Daisey Ridley has been fantastic as Rey.

Finn was fine in TFA but I think his character didn't mean shit in TLJ due to the forced romance plot with Rose.

And if you're going to talk about SJW shit, then talk shit about Solo and L3. That was way more SJWey, IMO, then either TFA or TLJ.

Kylo sucked in everything. He's a whiny, emo bitch, just like Anakin in the prequels. Rey is.... okay. But just okay. And not good enough to overcome the crappy story.

Finn has been reduced to a live action Jar Jar. At this point, I just want him dead.

Poe was reduced to hot-headed moron.

Luke was reduced to a cranky old quitter yelling at everybody to get off his lawn.

Leia was wasted. Rose was atrocious. And don't even get me started on purple hair Laura Dern. Ugh. The First Order villains sucked. And Snoke's (Snope? - can't remember, don't care) lair looked like it was straight out of the old 60s Batman TV show.

About the only character they didn't **** up was Chewbacca. I wish he'd pull Kennedy's arms off and use them to beat Johnson to death.

At least the Harriet Tubman droid freeing the slaves advanced the plot in Solo.

I will buy Solo when it comes out on blu-ray. I will never buy Last Jedi. And I may not even see IX in the theater, which at one point would have been unimaginable.

Beef Supreme 06-21-2018 09:28 PM

I haven't bothered to watch either of the last two movies. I'll catch them on Netflix or something. Maybe.

TFA was the same exact plot as ANH. With a bigger death star and weaker characters. Holy shit talk about lazy storytelling. Rogue one was ok. I guess. Just nothing they have done in the reboot makes me want to spend money on it.

RINGLEADER 06-21-2018 11:54 PM

I’m really curious to see what JJ does to salvage Rian Johnson’s abortion of a movie and complete undoing of the arcs that RJ nuked in TLJ.

Tribal Warfare 06-21-2018 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13602045)
Kylo sucked in everything. He's a whiny, emo bitch, just like Anakin in the prequels. Rey is.... okay. But just okay. And not good enough to overcome the crappy story.

Finn has been reduced to a live action Jar Jar. At this point, I just want him dead.

Poe was reduced to hot-headed moron.

Luke was reduced to a cranky old quitter yelling at everybody to get off his lawn.

Leia was wasted. Rose was atrocious. And don't even get me started on purple hair Laura Dern. Ugh. The First Order villains sucked. And Snoke's (Snope? - can't remember, don't care) lair looked like it was straight out of the old 60s Batman TV show.

About the only character they didn't **** up was Chewbacca. I wish he'd pull Kennedy's arms off and use them to beat Johnson to death.

At least the Harriet Tubman droid freeing the slaves advanced the plot in Solo.

My biggest gripes with TLJ are Leia should've been a very powerful Jedi like Luke. She was diminished as Mary Poppins, and, gave up on her son.

Furthermore, there are murders on death row whose mothers still love them unconditionally.

Just Passin' By 06-22-2018 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 13601990)
Biggest bullshit copout by angry white dudes.

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 13602035)
Kylo was awesome in TLJ and Daisey Ridley has been fantastic as Rey.

Finn was fine in TFA but I think his character didn't mean shit in TLJ due to the forced romance plot with Rose.

And if you're going to talk about SJW shit, then talk shit about Solo and L3. That was way more SJWey, IMO, then either TFA or TLJ.

Listening to people like you two is what will make sure the franchise dies.

Chiefspants 06-22-2018 03:29 PM

I care about Rey, Kylo and Poe more than anyone from the prequels. Including Obi-Wan, I was about done with him after his characterization at the end of AOTC. For that reason alone, I think Disney can stick the landing with Episode 9.

Whether JJ can do it is another question.


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