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philfree 01-25-2019 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14071821)
So an average defense would get raped by Tom Brady just like how our 31st ranked defense did? That literally makes no sense. How isn't going from 31st ranked defense to the 16th ranked defense a major improvement?


Yes. It makes no sense to think that an average D is good enough to stop Brady with the game on the line.

The Franchise 01-25-2019 11:00 AM

You don't need a defense to completely shut down Brady. You need a defense that can stop him 2-4 times a game and allow your offense to get and hold the lead.

staylor26 01-25-2019 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 14071871)
Yes. It makes no sense to think that an average D is good enough to stop Brady with the game on the line.

A better defense gets another stop or two at some point in the game which makes it irrelevant whether they would’ve been able to on the last series.

O.city 01-25-2019 11:02 AM

Just build a good defense. Not one that we hope is just good enough, just a ****ing good solid d

staylor26 01-25-2019 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14071890)
Just build a good defense. Not one that we hope is just good enough, just a ****ing good solid d

That’s obviously the goal, but it’s going to be difficult to make it “good” in his first year.

Maybe it will be by playoff time though.

RunKC 01-25-2019 11:05 AM

All I can say is thank ****ing god Sutton’s package defense is gone.

2 DL, Houston, Ford and only Hitchens with a “money backer”.

And people wonder why we got ran on?!

-King- 01-25-2019 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 14071871)
Yes. It makes no sense to think that an average D is good enough to stop Brady with the game on the line.

If Ford lines back 5 inches, we win the game only allowing 24 points and forcing Brady into 3 interceptions.

That's the difference of a player just lining up 5 inches back. Just that small one change. But yet you think if a major change like the defense going from 31st to 16th wouldn't make a difference in performance?

O.city 01-25-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14071900)
That’s obviously the goal, but it’s going to be difficult to make it “good” in his first year.

Maybe it will be by playoff time though.

If it’s taking this long then the front office needs some changes

staylor26 01-25-2019 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14071919)
If it’s taking this long then the front office needs some changes

So you expect a good defense week 1?

Sorry, but you’re likely to be disappointed if these are your expectations.

The Franchise 01-25-2019 11:11 AM

An average defense in year one for this defense would be a ****ing win.

O.city 01-25-2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14071925)
So you expect a good defense week 1?

Sorry, but you’re likely to be disappointed if these are your expectations.

Why not?

They’ve got the draft and the whole offseason

philfree 01-25-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14071888)
A better defense gets another stop or two at some point in the game which makes it irrelevant whether they would’ve been able to on the last series.

In theory but these games all come down to the end and an average D isn't going to be good enough to stop a guy like Brady at the end of the big game. I guess you have to define average too. Average at what? Yards, points, red zone.

saphojunkie 01-25-2019 11:17 AM

People don't realize how historically bad our defense was.

staylor26 01-25-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14071933)
Why not?

They’ve got the draft and the whole offseason

If they’re even average week 1 that’s a huge improvement.

Like I said, yea they should be good come playoff time, but I don’t expect it right away.

philfree 01-25-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14071905)
If Ford lines back 5 inches, we win the game only allowing 24 points and forcing Brady into 3 interceptions.

That's the difference of a player just lining up 5 inches back. Just that small one change. But yet you think if a major change like the defense going from 31st to 16th wouldn't make a difference in performance?

It's a game of inches. Good Ds control the inches when it counts the most. Rankings? 16h ranked? I think I'd set my bar higher in an attempt to win it all.


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