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arrwheader 04-22-2021 09:49 AM

If the Ravens won't trade a player that doesn't help them now or long term to the Chiefs because they are a contender then they are dumb. Winners do their thing and model their team to win. If trading him to the Chiefs because they offer the best compensation makes them better then they should do it if they are smart.

If Brown is willing to play and not be a distraction at his current position on the Ravens and help them now then you don't trade him period.

If he's hard up to get gone and the Chiefs are there offering significantly more than other teams you make the trade because you can then make your team better where as otherwise you will just have a guy that doesn't want to play or you send him to a team giving less comp, both hurts your team.



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tredadda 04-22-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 15639770)
If the Ravens won't trade a player that doesn't help them now or long term to the Chiefs because they are a contender then they are dumb. Winners do their thing and model their team to win. If trading him to the Chiefs because they offer the best compensation makes them better then they should do it if they are smart.

If Brown is willing to play and not be a distraction at his current position on the Ravens and help them now then you don't trade him period.

If he's hard up to get gone and the Chiefs are there offering significantly more than other teams you make the trade because you can then make your team better where as otherwise you will just have a guy that doesn't want to play or you send him to a team giving less comp, both hurts your team.



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No doubt they will most likely trade to KC if they overpay. They would be stupid to not do that. Big question is how much would they make KC overpay?

Dunerdr 04-22-2021 10:01 AM

Lets talk about this 2nd round value speculation... id make that trade so ****ing fast your head would spin. I'd go 31 with brown and a late back really fast as well.

htismaqe 04-22-2021 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15639784)
Lets talk about this 2nd round value speculation... id make that trade so ****ing fast your head would spin. I'd go 31 with brown and a late back really fast as well.

I'd sure as hell do that over trading away picks in next year's draft to get an unproven rookie.

old_geezer 04-22-2021 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15639759)
I don’t think they’ll sit at 31 and wait for a LT. But I also don’t think they’re taking one in the first either.

This is pretty much me at the moment. I think they pick the best value in the first round (more than likely a WR or DE IMO). Then they trade up to obtain one of the second tier OTs in the second round. That's a more likely scenario than taking a second tier OT at 31 or giving up the farm to move up in the first.

Chief Roundup 04-22-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15639752)
So are the Chiefs.

And if you're to ask me what's more likely, the Chiefs sitting at 31 and taking w/e OL falls to them or trading for Brown, i'd wager they'd trade for Brown.

I STILL think that's the move. And if it's not, it speaks volumes on what they think of Niang.

I just can't fathom the Chiefs willingly sitting on their hands and just going, "hurpa derp, we'll just take the best OL that falls to us".

That's just not how they've ever operated.

The Chiefs won't get Brown for the #31 overall either. It will take more than that. Maybe more than it would take to move up and get the player that they want.

BossChief 04-22-2021 11:40 AM

It will be interesting to see what he eventually goes for. They said a top 40 pick, but with the depth of this class at OT and the fact it will also require a big money extension...some teams might be scared off and choose the draft route rather than spend premium draft and cap space to solidify the left tackle spot.

I know Baltimore is allowing Brown to seek out a trade and I wonder what his actual asking price is. If we can get him for a first and a conditional third next year, that would be great IF we can ink him to a 5 year EXTENSION averaging 20m per.

That would end up being one of the best deals in the league in 2 years if everything works out and it would keep his cap hits absolutely minimal this year and next.

BossChief 04-22-2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15639875)
The Chiefs won't get Brown for the #31 overall either. It will take more than that. Maybe more than it would take to move up and get the player that they want.

Nobody knows that.

We can discuss possible compensation and whatnot, but ultimately it boils down to what teams are offering because his value in this specific market may we’ll be far less than most years both in draft compensation as well as contract terms.

BigRedChief 04-22-2021 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15639931)
It will be interesting to see what he eventually goes for. They said a top 40 pick, but with the depth of this class at OT and the fact it will also require a big money extension...some teams might be scared off and choose the draft route rather than spend premium draft and cap space to solidify the left tackle spot.

I know Baltimore is allowing Brown to seek out a trade and I wonder what his actual asking price is. If we can get him for a first and a conditional third next year, that would be great IF we can ink him to a 5 year EXTENSION averaging 20m per.

That would end up being one of the best deals in the league in 2 years if everything works out and it would keep his cap hits absolutely minimal this year and next.

I don't see, based on our need, how we could pick someone at #31 that would instantaneously make our team better than Brown. Throwing in another pick next year based on his performance may get the deal done. We cleared the cap space for the potential Williams deal. They can do 5 years/20 per with a high guarantee.

He has some power here. He cant stop a trade but he must sign off on a new contract. Without a new contract, no one is giving up a #1 pick. Why wouldnt Brown want to come here? Does anyone think we are not going to win another SB in 5 years? He gets paid, gets the ring, gets to play with Mahomes..... best option I see left to help fix the OL.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 04-22-2021 04:47 PM

Talk in Baltimore is if they can't get a first rounder or multiple picks, they'll just keep Brown and let him walk. Apparently they don't see a lot of difference between a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round comp pick and they get another year's use of him in case Staley isn't quite ready at the start of the season.

I REALLY don't see Baltimore letting him go for just a 2nd, but I am no Nostradamus, so who knows.

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Dunerdr 04-23-2021 08:15 AM

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I expect it to be 2 days or less from the draft, kind of like the Clark trade. When things get to the wire sides get more motivated.

saphojunkie 04-23-2021 09:29 AM

Chiefs should not trade their first for Orlando Brown, period. You have cap space and a draft pick, and using BOTH on the same player is two stones for one bird. Now, our second round pick? Sure. Go for it. But my guess is you'll have to throw in a 4th, as well.

I would rather see them draft a WR in the first round, trade back up for a OT, and leave Baltimore holding the bag.

htismaqe 04-23-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15639875)
The Chiefs won't get Brown for the #31 overall either. It will take more than that. Maybe more than it would take to move up and get the player that they want.

Not really.

If the guy they want is Darrisaw or Jenkins and they have to trade in front of the Bears and Colts, then we're talking about potentially trading more picks than it might take for Brown.

There's ZERO reason to trade up for a tackle in this draft. None whatsoever. It would just be dumb and wasteful to do so.

htismaqe 04-23-2021 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15641162)
Chiefs should not trade their first for Orlando Brown, period. You have cap space and a draft pick, and using BOTH on the same player is two stones for one bird. Now, our second round pick? Sure. Go for it. But my guess is you'll have to throw in a 4th, as well.

I would rather see them draft a WR in the first round, trade back up for a OT, and leave Baltimore holding the bag.

I'd rather trade picks for Brown than trade picks in the draft. Brown isn't my first choice but he's definitely not my last either.


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