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Lzen 09-18-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9990422)
Steve DeBerg put up numbers in 1990 that were better than anything Alex Smith has ever done. You don't see us masturbating all of over that team.

Not true according to profootballreference.com.

DeBerg had a quarterback rating of 96.3 for the 1990 season.
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...D/DebeSt00.htm

Smith had a quarterback rating of 104.1 last year.
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...S/SmitAl03.htm

JENKINSWINS 09-18-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9990847)
I'm averaging all games with Kaep at QB including the tougher playoff teams which might hurt his number some.

Also Megatron always has a high drop rate.... HE SUCKS!!!! LMAO

Yeah and look how often Detroit makes it to the Playoffs. THEY ARE SO DAMN GOOD!

BTW, Alex beat them in 2011 at their house when they were undefeated and the talk of the NFL.

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9990840)
931+459 = 1100? Oh wait, you're going to include play-off games now. How many additional looks? Shocker...he got more yards because all those throws to VD went to Crabs.

Dude..whatever.

@BigCatDaddy

What did I tell you? :D

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9990866)
@BigCatDaddy

What did I tell you? :D

I know I know LMAO

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 9990858)
Yeah and look how often Detroit makes it to the Playoffs. THEY ARE SO DAMN GOOD!

BTW, Alex beat them in 2011 at their house when they were undefeated and the talk of the NFL.

Clearly Detroit not making the playoffs has to do with Megatron's drop rate. :hmmm:

NinerDoug 09-18-2013 02:09 PM

Hey, have you KC fans ever considered that "Alex Smith" has the same number of syllables as "Jesus Christ"?

He just may be your savior. :)

JENKINSWINS 09-18-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9990870)
I know I know LMAO

Where are the excuses for this year? All I see is a bunch of girls talking about what their man did to them in the past.

Jakemall 09-18-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9990847)
I'm averaging all games with Kaep at QB including the tougher playoff teams which might hurt his number some.

Also Megatron always has a high drop rate.... HE SUCKS!!!! LMAO

Playing with a broken hand?

http://www.troll.me/images/willy-won...ll-me-more.jpg

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ide-receivers/

3 years of drop rates...

Crabtree 11th worst...Boldin 13th best.

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 9990857)
Not true according to profootballreference.com.

DeBerg had a quarterback rating of 96.3 for the 1990 season.
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...D/DebeSt00.htm

Smith had a quarterback rating of 104.1 last year.
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...S/SmitAl03.htm

Comparing QB ratings from 2 different eras....

Hilarious.

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9990884)
Playing with a broken hand?

http://www.troll.me/images/willy-won...ll-me-more.jpg

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ide-receivers/

3 years of drop rates...

Crabtree 11th worst...Boldin 13th best.

Very nice! Soon Boldin will as good of a WR as Austin Collie.

Jakemall 09-18-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9990894)
Very nice! Soon Boldin will as good of a WR as Austin Collie.

Your ability to take a stat out of context and apply it to make a point that fits your agenda is quite remarkable. Congrats.

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9990884)
Playing with a broken hand?

http://www.troll.me/images/willy-won...ll-me-more.jpg

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ide-receivers/

3 years of drop rates...

Crabtree 11th worst...Boldin 13th best.

Moss, Crabtree, Manningham...all on the "Bad" list. How in the hell did Kaepernick still win games last year with all of these terrible receivers?

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9990900)
Your ability to take a stat out of context and apply it to make a point that fits your agenda is quite remarkable. Congrats.

and you don't do that? :hmmm:

Jakemall 09-18-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9990903)
Moss, Crabtree, Manningham...all on the "Bad" list. How in the hell did Kaepernick still win games last year with all of these terrible receivers?

Where did I say that Crabtree was a terrible receiver? I said he wasn't as good as Boldin...there's a hell of a difference.


BTW, Moss sucked last year..even with Kaep. Great point.

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9990900)
Your ability to take a stat out of context and apply it to make a point that fits your agenda is quite remarkable. Congrats.

LMAO That's what you tried to do. Crabs is on par with 1400 and 100 with Kaep at the helm and you want to bitch about drop rate and say some dude that was cast away for a 6th is better. Dipshit LMAO

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9990912)
Where did I say that Crabtree was a terrible receiver? I said he wasn't as good as Boldin...there's a hell of a difference.


BTW, Moss sucked last year..even with Kaep. Great point.

You tried to make it look like Smith's futility was due to his receivers dropping passes. You also tried to say that Boldin is superior to Crabs because he has a lower drop rate as if that's how receivers are judged.

Nothing but hyperbole

Marcellus 09-18-2013 02:33 PM

The haters are getting rolled.

JENKINSWINS 09-18-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9990940)
The haters are getting rolled.

For real and it's not even close. They are bitching and moaning like girls who got mistreated by their ex-boyfriends.

"Girl didn't I tell you, he a playa fo real!"

"I know, I know!"

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9990936)
You tried to make it look like Smith's futility was due to his receivers dropping passes. You also tried to say that Boldin is superior to Crabs because he has a lower drop rate as if that's how receivers are judged.

Nothing but hyperbole

"Hey Jim, Andy Reid here. You know that kid you have that had 1000 yards receiving in 10 games with Kaep. Well about we give you a 6th round pick so you get that pick back that you gave up for Old Brokey Dicky? What do you say bud since you bent us over on the Alice trade and all?"

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9990940)
The haters are getting rolled.

Yes yes! Rolled! Rolled up like a fat spliffy!

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 9990948)
For real and it's not even close. They are bitching and moaning like girls who got mistreated by their ex-boyfriends.

"Girl didn't I tell you, he a playa fo real!"

"I know, I know!"

Fo shizzle my nizzle. Boyz getting werked!

Jakemall 09-18-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9990936)
You tried to make it look like Smith's futility was due to his receivers dropping passes. You also tried to say that Boldin is superior to Crabs because he has a lower drop rate as if that's how receivers are judged.

Nothing but hyperbole

Wow...nice strawman.

I'll get back to this after my meeting.

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 9990948)
For real and it's not even close. They are bitching and moaning like girls who got mistreated by their ex-boyfriends.

"Girl didn't I tell you, he a playa fo real!"

"I know, I know!"

:deevee::deevee::deevee:

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9990969)
Wow...nice strawman.

I'll get back to this after my meeting.

Bring it bitch!!!!

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9990969)
Wow...nice strawman.

I'll get back to this after my meeting.

don't bother...

Sandy Vagina 09-18-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9990974)
Bring it bitch!!!!

BigPussy has the day off, apparently, and chooses to spend it talking non-stop shit about the quarterback of his team with a 2-0 record? Oh, BigPuss... that be just said, bruh.

:doh!:

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9990994)
BigPussy has the day off, apparently, and chooses to spend it talking non-stop shit about the quarterback of his team with a 2-0 record? Oh, BigPuss... that be just said, bruh.

:doh!:

Hey hey, I knew my bitch would be back to this thread like a fly to shit. You missed all the festivities where I blew Alice and the Aliceite's arguements out of the water. Welcome to party.

Sandy Vagina 09-18-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9990998)
Hey hey, I knew my bitch would be back to this thread like a fly to shit. You missed all the festivities where I blew Alice and the Aliceite's arguements out of the water. Welcome to party.

Yeah, got out the house a bit and enjoyed the spectacular weather. You should try it. It's not healthy to sit on here all day obsessing about your terrible top 12 quarterback. :)

JENKINSWINS 09-18-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9990962)
Fo shizzle my nizzle. Boyz getting werked!

LOL you guys are acting like bitches. What's done is done you can either let it go or dwell on it negatively or you can look to the future and be optimistic. Those stats do nothing for us today and as of right now the only thing that matters as far as football goes is Ws. You can continue to call him Alice but right now, like I said before he's 2 - 0 with room grow in this new offense, and has to learn it just like the rest of his teammates. There are guys who have the benefit of being in the right situation and most of all consistency in one system. It shows, look at all the top QBs they've all been in the same system with the same team either since they started or was with one for a long time. There's no denying that.

Now go look at the QBs who have had multiple coordinators and have been on multiple teams. It is rare to find one of them at the top and it's definitely proven that it's difficult for any QB to succeed when placed in that situation.

As for the other guy, I don't see why he keeps dwelling on what Alex has done in the past. He can keep being a coward behind his keyboard for all I care. No one in their right mind would waste this much of their time doing this. There's no reason to. NONE.

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9991006)
Yeah, got out the house a bit and enjoyed the spectacular weather. You should try it. It's not healthy to sit on here all day obsessing about your terrible top 12 quarterback. :)

What's up with the rep stick turned off? You carry that inferiority complex about having a small stick to real life to the internets?

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 9991011)
LOL you guys are acting like bitches. What's done is done you can either let it go or dwell on it negatively or you can look to the future and be optimistic. Those stats do nothing for us today and as of right now the only thing that matters as far as football goes is Ws. You can continue to call him Alice but right now, like I said before he's 2 - 0 with room grow in this new offense, and has to learn it just like the rest of his teammates. There are guys who have the benefit of being in the right situation and most of all consistency in one system. It shows, look at all the top QBs they've all been in the same system with the same team either since they started or was with one for a long time. There's no denying that.

<b>Now go look at the QBs who have and multiple coordinators and have been on multiple teams. It is rare to find one of them at the top and it's definitely proven that it's difficult for any QB to succeed when placed in that situation.</b>

<b>As for the other guy, I don't see why he keeps dwelling on what Alex has done in the past. He can keep being a coward behind his keyboard for all I care. No one in their right mind would waste this much of their time doing this. There's no reason to. NONE.</b>

I for one can't see why the **** a 9er fan would follow a broke dick QB to another teams forum. I see no reason, none.

2nd Matt Cassel loves you have your excuses LMAO

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 9991011)
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:deevee:

JENKINSWINS 09-18-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9991018)
I for one can't see why the **** a 9er fan would follow a broke dick QB to another teams forum. I see no reason, none.

2nd Matt Cassel loves you have your excuses LMAO

The guy is 2 - 0. How can you not be a fan of that? :D

Eleazar 09-18-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 9991035)
The guy is 2 - 0. How can you not be a fan of that? :D

Most people are fans of being right more than the Chiefs around here.

Sandy Vagina 09-18-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 9991011)
It shows, look at all the top QBs they've all been in the same system with the same team either since they started or was with one for a long time. There's no denying that.

Now go look at the QBs who have and multiple coordinators and have been on multiple teams. It is rare to find one of them at the top and it's definitely proven that it's difficult for any QB to succeed when placed in that situation.

Pretty well agree. I'll make a distinction on that. The veteran QBs who have been developed well in their early years can more likely then go to a team with issues and still plug away a decent or good season.

It's the QBs that never get that structure and proper development early on that struggle most. Smith was there until 2011... though he still did show some decent play in the 2nd half of 2010. But in 2011? It was almost as if he were a stunted rookie thanks to the Nolan/Singletary nightmare. He FINALLY got the good development for a couple years, albeit so very late in his career. Other QBs that have shared in even a taste of such miserable early years have flamed out badly or been permanent, forgettable backups.

I like to ramble with my coffee... don't like it? **** all of you! :p

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 9991035)
The guy is 2 - 0. How can you not be a fan of that? :D

I was a fan of being 13-3, but I wasn't a fan of Steve Bono.

Sandy Vagina 09-18-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9991018)
I for one can't see why the **** a 9er fan would follow a broke dick QB to another teams forum. I see no reason, none.

You don't need to understand it. Just be happy it gave you something to do with your afternoon.. as pathetic as that is. We're here for you, bro... so you won't hang yourself over such a miserable existence. Just say thank you, ****face! :)

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9991059)
You don't need to understand it. Just be happy it gave you something to do with your afternoon.. as pathetic as that is. We're here for you, bro... so you won't hang yourself over such a miserable existence. Just say thank you, ****face! :)

For that I am appreciative. You can't find a bigger collection of dumb ****s than in this thread. It's provided me with entertainment and a big smile all day long :D

JENKINSWINS 09-18-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9991051)
I was a fan of being 13-3, but I wasn't a fan of Steve Bono.

Don't you mean Stephanie Bono?

Kaepernick 09-18-2013 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9990816)
2 words...drop rate.

If I have to put the ball up, who am I gonna count on? Crabtree improved last year...but he's still not half the WR as Boldin when it comes to that.

Boldin was also double covered most of last year compared to Crabtree? not so much...but yeah..stats tell the facts...if you chose the right ones...or you could cherry pick. :banghead:


Or you can just obtain hard data instead of guessing.


2012 Season Drop Rate

Anquan Boldin --- 3.57%, 65 catches, 4 drops.
Michael Crabtree - 3.94 %, 85 catches, 5 drops.

Both guys have stellar hands.


http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2012/

Sandy Vagina 09-18-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9991013)
What's up with the rep stick turned off? You carry that inferiority complex about having a small stick to real life to the internets?

Nah. Just thought the whole rep thing was fake and ghey to begin with. For children who feed their sense of self on how they were perceived by other anonymous assholes on a forum. Once I figured out you can turn the shit off, I was all for it. why? You wanted to send me another love tap and got frustrated when you couldn't, puddin;? :D

Sandy Vagina 09-18-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9991107)
Or you can just obtain hard data instead of guessing and exposing your preconceived bias.


2012 Season Drop Rate

Anquan Boldin --- 3.57%, 65 catches, 4 drops.
Michael Crabtree - 3.94 %, 85 catches, 5 drops.

Both guys have stellar hands.


http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2012/

I'd say Crabtree was improving towards Boldin-type status. Boldin still being better at going up in traffic for tough catches... Crabtree better at YAC.

Jakemall 09-18-2013 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9991122)
I'd say Crabtree was improving towards Boldin-type status. Boldin still being better at going up in traffic for tough catches... Crabtree better at YAC.

I won't argue with this. Crabtree had 6.4 yac for 2012. Boldin at 4.2

Boldin's average catch was for 14.17 yards after yac.

Crabtree's average catch was for 13.00 after yac.

That means that Boldin on average was catching his passes about 3 yards deeper than Crabtree. (that isn't an indictment of either player or quarterback on my part).

What I'd like to see is a stat of % double coverage. From the "eye-ball" test, I'd say that Boldin was double covered much more often than Crabtree. If true, would reasonably diminish YAC, targets (more coverage), and one could argue making catching that more difficult.

To point to Crabtree's yards and say he's a better WR than Boldin is akin to pointing to Alex Smiths Quarterback rating and saying he was better than Tom Brady or Drew Brees.

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9991115)
Nah. Just thought the whole rep thing was fake and ghey to begin with. For children who feed their sense of self on how they were perceived by other anonymous assholes on a forum. Once I figured out you can turn the shit off, I was all for it. why? You wanted to send me another love tap and got frustrated when you couldn't, puddin;? :D

Kind of like the reeruned kid in class I felt sorry for you and was going to give you some greens.

Easy 6 09-18-2013 04:30 PM

My most fervent wish, is that Axl takes a big fat shit ALL over this thread tomorrow... in the eyes, nose, down the throat, smeared all over your nice clean shirts.

JF08 09-18-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 9989871)

Lol bump.

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JF08 (Post 9991280)
Lol bump.

Kaepernick career QB rating: 94.2
Alex Smith career QB rating: 79.6

:D

NinerDoug 09-18-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9991392)
Kaepernick career QB rating: 94.2
Alex Smith career QB rating: 79.6
:D

You know, that's actually not bad considering how bad things were pre-Harbaugh.

Easy 6 09-18-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9991392)
Kaepernick career QB rating: 94.2
Alex Smith career QB rating: 79.6

:D

Kaepernicks career with a real coach and team - All Of It

Smiths career with the same - three years

Keep hating...

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 9991431)
You know, that's actually not bad considering how bad things were pre-Harbaugh.

It's terrible.

Sandy Vagina 09-18-2013 05:48 PM

LOL.... John Elway had a 79.9 career rating. :whackit:

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9991435)
Kaepernicks career with a real coach and team - All Of It

Smiths career with the same - three years

Keep hating...

http://msnixinthemix.com/wp-content/...-not-fair1.jpg

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9991503)
LOL.... John Elway had a 79.9 career rating. :whackit:

Comparing stats from different eras. Herp derp! :)

Sandy Vagina 09-18-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9991512)
Comparing stats from different eras. Herp derp! :)


excuses !!!! lolz... nlm

NinerDoug 09-18-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9991494)
It's terrible.

Reading comprehension. Can't say enough good things about it.

Tribal Warfare 09-18-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9991522)
excuses !!!! lolz... nlm

So we are comparing Alex Smith to HOFers again


from Montana and now to Elway.
:facepalm:

GoChargers 09-18-2013 06:25 PM

It amazes me how many excuses are made for such a mediocre quarterback.

threebag 09-18-2013 06:28 PM

I wish Alex Smith could wash all those bad words out of your mouths with his dick.

Tiger's Fan 09-18-2013 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 9991615)
I wish Alex Smith could wash all those bad words out of your mouths with his dick.

They'd all let him do it with pleasure.

And of course cup the balls like good bitches.

I can only imagine the amount of anal rape they'd allow for a really good QB.

NinerDoug 09-18-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9991512)
Comparing stats from different eras. Herp derp! :)

Hey, what does a high rating from a QB's early years get him in the here and now? Admit One Free to the Playoffs? Strength of QB rating advantage in the event of a tie?

Hint: It's the same answer as to what he gets for having a low QB rating in his early years.

GoChargers 09-18-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 9991628)
Hey, what does a high rating from a QB's early years get him in the here and now? Admit One Free to the Playoffs? Strength of QB rating advantage in the event of a tie?

Hint: It's the same answer as to what he gets for having a low QB rating in his early years.

You still can't fairly compare between the eras without considering the context. You do realize that the average QB rating has increased over the years, right?

When Elway played, the average QB rating each year ranged from 75.9 (his rookie year) to 78.2 (his final year). Compared to the league, Elway's 79.9 career rating was pretty damn good.

Nowadays, the average QB is somewhere in the 82-87 range, so Alice's career 79.6 rating ain't looking too good by comparison.

Mav 09-18-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9991605)
It amazes me how many excuses are made for such a mediocre quarterback.

Hmmm. Interesting. You yourself have thought that Phillip Rivers was done, and that you guys were tanking for Clowney.

what do you think of Phillip Rivers so far with an upgrade at coaching?

GoChargers 09-18-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9991669)
Hmmm. Interesting. You yourself have thought that Phillip Rivers was done, and that you guys were tanking for Clowney.

what do you think of Phillip Rivers so far with an upgrade at coaching?

Still a small sample size. Rivers was clutch against the Eagles but he was his usual (for the past few years) self against the Texans. It remains to be seen whether the Eagles game was an outlier or the norm. More games like that from Rivers and I'll have to readjust my expectations for the season.

Mav 09-18-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9991671)
Still a small sample size. Rivers was clutch against the Eagles but he was his usual (for the past few years) self against the Texans. It remains to be seen whether the Eagles game was an outlier or the norm. More games like that from Rivers and I'll have to readjust my expectations for the season.

I had to pick him up in fantasy today.

My point was that Coaching makes a huge difference.

Also, I have always liked Phillip Rivers. Wish he had some better receiving options.

Has Keenan Allen done anything?

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 9991628)
Hey, what does a high rating from a QB's early years get him in the here and now? Admit One Free to the Playoffs? Strength of QB rating advantage in the event of a tie?

Hint: It's the same answer as to what he gets for having a low QB rating in his early years.

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/upload...-Happening.gif

Alex Smiff 09-18-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9991604)
So we are comparing Alex Smith to HOFers again


from Montana and now to Elway.
:facepalm:

8 years of reading stuff like that on the 9er board. :banghead:

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-18-2013 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9990263)
I never thought I'd say this, but

NE fans > SF fans

So much this.

splatbass 09-18-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9990471)
CA Liberals? Always someone else's fault :shrug:

I've lived in St. Joe, and I've lived in CA, and I'll tell you CA is 1000000x better than St. Joe. Are you in jail or under house arrest or something? Because I have no idea why anyone would want to live there on purpose.

beach tribe 09-18-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9991905)
So much this.

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap20...season#photo=7

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-18-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 9992080)

He'll turn it around.

philfree 09-18-2013 11:33 PM

Alex is top ten in QBR :shrug:

QuitUrWhining 09-18-2013 11:34 PM

Where are all the 9er whiners like Alex Smiff, Alice Smith etc etc...

How does it feel now Alex Smith is 2-0 and Kapernoob was a complete embarrassment in Seattle? ROFL

KaperNoob looked worst than a fail rookie: 3 INTs, 1 Fumble, NO TDs, 20.1 QBR, 127 yd passing... LOL ROFL LMAO... Don't think Alex Smith was ever that BAD LOL NOT even in the Nolan days ROFL

QuitUrWhining 09-18-2013 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9991739)
8 years of reading stuff like that on the 9er board

Even the well known Alex Smith whiner hater Stephen A Smith on "First Take" said where was Alex Smith when he saw Kapernoob failing like a clueless rook all night long in Seattle lol rofl LMAO, doesn't get funnier than that!

Kapernoob DIDN'T EARN THE JOB. It and a SB caliber team was handed to him on a silver platter and the sliver spoon was stuck right into his mouth, same with the over rated publicity in the off season. Too much fame too fast. Taking the job away from Alex Smith like that was straight up robbery, then trading Alex Smith for picks was like throwing away a used condom and getting $10 back, thus what happen in the SB and what's happening now is Karma lol!

BryanBusby 09-19-2013 01:27 AM

Kapernoob

sick burn bro ;-P~

bshmerlie 09-19-2013 05:21 AM

I think Alex Smith has done a great job. This is a team sport. It always confuses me when people want their quarterback to carry the team. Smith has a cap friendly contract which allows the Chiefs to build a solid team around him. The Chiefs have a good chance at going to the playoffs this year because of Alex Smith. ....And if he does get to the playoffs....is that not carrying your team?

BigBeauford 09-19-2013 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bshmerlie (Post 9992646)
I think Alex Smith has done a great job. This is a team sport. It always confuses me when people want their quarterback to carry the team. Smith has a cap friendly contract which allows the Chiefs to build a solid team around him. The Chiefs have a good chance at going to the playoffs this year because of Alex Smith. ....And if he does get to the playoffs....is that not carrying your team?

See also; Trent Dilfer, Rex Grossman

Sandy Vagina 09-19-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9991739)
8 years of reading stuff like that on the 9er board. :banghead:

... and if true, you sign up to a KC forum to bang your head some more instead of smiling that that the QB is gone from your team and the head-banging is over? Me thinks you banged your head too much and have now gone full potato.

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 9992663)
See also; Trent Dilfer, Rex Grossman

( only reg. season stats )

Dilfer had a 59% completion percentage... 1,500 yds.. 12 TD / 11 INT and a 76.6 passer rating in his SB winning year.

Grossman's only good season, he had a 54.6 % comp percentage... 3,193 yds.. 23 TD /20 INTs and a 73.9 passer rating.

Smith's last 2 yrs - 65.7 % (comp average) .... 4,881 yds .. 30 TDs / 10 INTs ... and a 97.4 (av) passer rating.

^^^^


Now compare those numbers to what Smith has been doing for the last 2 years... :doh!:

You, sir... have colossally FAILED...

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BigBeauford 09-19-2013 07:05 AM

I was particularly pointing out that just because they get to the playoffs, does not necessarily mean Smith carried them. Also, it would be more pertinent to use 1 year for Smith's stats since that is what you used for the other two.

Sandy Vagina 09-19-2013 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 9992725)
I was particularly pointing out that just because they get to the playoffs, does not necessarily mean Smith carried them. Also, it would be more pertinent to use 1 year for Smith's stats since that is what you used for the other two.

The others didn't have any other years of topic-related worth.

There are many different ways a QB can "carry" his team. Sometimes, it can be found in the dazzling 400 yard games that so many get obsessed with. Other times, it can be from simply being efficient when you need to be, and minimizing turnovers. Other times, it is driving your team to regain a lead in the 4th quarter, when the game is on the line.

The stats show to me that, for the most part, Dilfer and Grossman were "carried by their team" to achieve their very brief success. Whereas, for the last 2 seasons, Alex has done far more in his role to be able to say that he was NOT "carried" by his team.

In other words, if over each of the last 2 seasons, Smith had these numbers?

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59% comp percentage... 1,500 yds.. 12 TD / 11 INT and a 76.6 passer rating in his SB winning year.

54.6 % comp percentage... 3,193 yds.. 23 TD /20 INTs and a 73.9 passer rating.
.. and the team success was very high? Yeah, the team carried him a good portion of the way. but alas... these are NOT the numbers for Smith in his 2 years of success.

:)

BigCatDaddy 09-19-2013 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9992731)
The others didn't have any other years of topic-related worth.

There are many different ways a QB can "carry" his team. Sometimes,<b> it can be found in the dazzling 400 yard games</b> that so many get obsessed with. Other times, it can be from simply being efficient when you need to be, and minimizing turnovers. Other times, it is driving your team to regain a lead in the 4th quarter, when the game is on the line.

The stats show to me that, for the most part, Dilfer and Grossman were "carried by their team" to achieve their very brief success. Whereas, for the last 2 seasons, Alex has done far more in his role to be able to say that he was NOT "carried" by his team.

In other words, if over each of the last 2 seasons, Smith had these numbers?

.. and the team success was very high? Yeah, the team carried him a good portion of the way. but alas... these are NOT the numbers for Smith in his 2 years of success.

:)


Because the ability to move the football is sooooooooo overrated LMAO


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