There’s a dumb **** in this thread for sure.

Yeah, you.

I'm officially a Jorge Lopez fan. That was the best Royals pitching performance I've watched since Appier's 1 hit complete game where he lost (the only hit was a Palmeiro home run). Lopez also threw a gem in his prior start against Baltimore.

I'm assuming we have him quite awhile due to pre-arbitration years right? If so, I'm excited to see what he ends up doing in the long run.

Yeah through 2023 I believe. You can't just bank on tonight, there are many pitchers who actually threw no hitters and never amounted to anything long term, but he has some good movement on his pitches and 3 of his 5 starts in KC have been very solid.

It's looking like Dayton did a pretty good job on that Moose trade. In a time where nobody gets anything decent for rental players anymore, he may have gotten two major league players with upside for a guy we signed for $6 million. Time will tell.

Early returns looks promising, so that's a good sign. Hopefully it will continue to be better down the road.

You're such a ****ing idiot. Are you OKchiefs too?

Did the Royals even win tonight?

Single dumbest comment in CP history, especially given the poster you’re quoting. Congrats.

Man, I was just a kid, but I very vividly being at that Appier game. That was so ridiculous.

Here's another crazy stat about Whit:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ok, let’s try this instead.<br><br>Seasons with a .323 OBP:<br><br>Whit Merrifield: 3 of 3<br>Frank White: 0 of 18<br><br>Getting on base is the most important offensive skill. <a href="https://t.co/HGZP1GfDUX">https://t.co/HGZP1GfDUX</a></p>&mdash; Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) <a href="https://twitter.com/jazayerli/status/1035272162616205312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2018</a></blockquote>
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STOP DESTROYING MY CHILDHOOD

Royals lost 2 out of 3 to the Twins over the weekend and still lost ground on the #1 overall pick. That is such a Royals thing to do.

You may have all missed it due to Saint Patrick yesterday, but Captain red-ass Madison Bumgarner got his feelings hurt and intentionally hit a batter to load the bases for the Brewers. The next batter proceeded to roast a grand slam.

MadBum, at this point, has been more of an ***hole than Yo ever was. Even Giants fans are getting sick of his thin-skinned garbage.

That ship has sailed. Baltimore is awful beyond comprehension

There are so many teams tanking at this point the standings look terrible. I wonder if any of these teams are going to switch course and try to be competitive faster. There's literally 6-7 competitive teams in the entire AL and that's being generous. The flip side is the playoff teams are all going to have 90 wins. I can't tell if that's because they are all time great teams or half the league is garbage. Baltimore is 56.5 games out of first place. They'll probably end up more than 60 games back. That's absurd.

Don't group me with that dumbass.

Here's a heads up for anybody looking for cheap Royals gear.

Academy in Olathe has all Royals headwear, apparel, and accessories on sale for 50% off.

I assume this sale is at all KC area Academy stores, but I can't say for sure.

Just when you start to think Junis has pulled it back together, he plays home run derby pitcher. Lame.

I wonder if he is tipping his slider.

O'Hearn does it again. HR #10.

They need to keep Erica.

Really nice job of collecting himself and finishing really strong.

Pitching staff has possibilities next season.

Alshittys GWRBI

Well, ish.

Dude he ripped it

😂

IF these young guys are for real, they'll compete as early as next year. Which may not be the best thing for the rebuild, in all honesty. but it'll be fun.

I think our bullpen and the inconsistency of our lineup will prevent us from being true contenders, but we definitely should have more life than we did when we started the year.

Not interested at all. Moore seems to have honestly thought we were roughly 25 or so games better than we are this year which is insane. I do not trust Moore to make an accurate assessment of the state of this franchise and to act accordingly. Being mildly competitive does nothing but set us back from legitimately competing for a championship again. We need another couple of years of top 5 draft picks, and we need Moore to not hang on to valuable trade chips (i.e. Merrifield, assuming we get a quality trade offer).

I really fear we're in a bad situation with all the money this franchise has supposedly lost recently. Pressure from Glass might push Moore to make shortsighted moves to win a few more games and get more butts in the seats.

there are guys at AAA that were good enough to call up, but they didn't to save the year of control. I expect they'll start next year in the bigs. I expect the pen will be better next year regardless; the big question is starting pitching, which has looked much better the last month or so.

I don't think I'd rank us as a team ready to compete, but as bad as our division looks it wouldn't probably take much to make a leap within the division. Four of the five teams are basically rebuilding and the team who looked in the best shape just lost their top pitching prospect for next year.

I think the real question is the bullpen. If they build a decent bullpen at all we should definitely avoid 100 losses but if it's Maurer and Boyer types we won't be very good.

I'm not saying it's a play-off team, but could very well be a .500-ish squad that's in the conversation due to a weak division until late August/early September.

There were a few relievers doing very well at AAA that they didn't waste a year of service at the MLB level due to it being a lost season. I expect they'll start the season in KC...and you know...it's not an extreme reach to see meaningful August baseball next year.

I have extra tickets and a parking pass to the game tonight if any CP'ers want to go.

Here is the fangraphs WAR leaderboard. Please state which player is Jose Altuve, which is Whit Merrifield:

24. 123g 540pa 12hr 74r 54rbi 15sb 8.7%bb .140iso .354babip .318/.382/458 4.3war
25. 140g 620pa 12hr 74r 54rbi 33sb 8.4%bb .133iso .349babip .303/366/436 4.3war

I know based on stolen bases!

Stolen bases gives it away.

25. 140g 620pa 12hr 74r 54rbi 33sb 8.4%bb .133iso .349babip .303/366/436 4.3war

Whit!

Tonight's trivia question is hard. Most recent season with 2 rookies with 10 and more home runs?

Holy shit. That's crazy. Man he's good. Wonder how long he can keep this up?

Mondesi making a late push for an 800 OPS :eek:

He is a bust according to posters on here.

Mondesi has played like a legit 15 HR/50 SB player since about the beginning of July.

Whit has a shot to push 15 HR/40 SB this year. That's quite the middle infield.

I think I already said this but it is nice that O'Hearn at-least looks the part of a masher. We had Butler (Fat) Moose (Fat but big ass for power) and Hosmer (bean pole) nice to

Can we officially retire the fake news Moore "knows how to build a bullpen"?



Dead. Ass. Last. In war. (His rotation is 23. Not good but not last)

Homer alert, but man this team makes me giddy me for the future.

1: Merrifield and Mondesi make up a super exciting middle infield next year.

2: Salvy has been a lot better during the 2nd half. Having him back for a full healthy season will be nice.

3: O'Hearn may finish with a 1.0 OPS and put up comparable home run numbers to Eric Hosmer with about 15% of his at-bats. Plug him in as our permanent #3 next year and we may have a more athletic, less worthless Billy Butler.

4: A mixture of Herrera, Phillips, Goodwin, Dozier, and a full Jorge Bonifacio should equal out to at least a couple of solid players for tomorrow.

5: A rotation of Keller/Junis/Lopez/Fillmyer/Skoglund would make me happy. Ride those 5 for the entire season and throw Dick Lovelady in the bullpen.

You had me until 4 and 5. Herrera can he a utility guy. Goodwin can play for sure and Boni is serviceable at best as a DH. Not sure about Dozier yet.

Duffy likely is part of the rotation next year also but that looks pretty bad. You pray Keller can duplicate what he has been doing and I think Junis is fine as a back of the rotation guy. Lopez can potential as a middle of the rotation guy but Skoglund sucks. Mayne a long relief guy at best.

Sounds like an orgasm waiting to happen for the true fans!!! That's a good enough lineup to maybe win 75 games. Hey, at least we won't lose 100. We will have no chance of actually competing, but at least we'll put butts in the seats.

Hi friend,

So for small market teams, an exciting season isn't exclusively a season where 95+ games are won. For example, the 2011 season was a statistical failure (71-91 record), but an extremely fun season when preparing for the future (Hosmer breaking out, Gordon and Melky career years, Moustakas, Esky, and Salvy all having good years, the debut of Cain, Hochevar looking decent, etc.)

Next year will certainly be another sub-500 season, but baseball is a weird thing. You don't have to dominate every season in order to be ultimately successful. The Royals will never be a playoff team year in and year out, and that's just the way it is.

Hope this helps!

Bufkin

I completely forgot about Duffy. Throw him in near the top and make Skoglund the long reliever.

Herrera is probably at best a utility backup...

Here is your issue how do you have Bonificio and Soler on the same team? They really are both DH's..

And dude didn't even mention Soler and the Royals are probably more committed to playing him than any of those other OFers.

My point is, and I know I keep harping on this, holding on to Merrifield is so ****ing stupid just to have an "exciting infield". Assuming we got a monster Adam Eaton -esque return, trading him brings far more value. Your average fan at Kauffman is an idiot and will probably be pissed, but trading Merrifield (again, assuming the return is good) is absolutely 100% the right move.

If this team won 75 games next year that would mean they are well on their way to another decent run. Especially since none of our top prospects will be here for another year or 2. You're such a ****ing moron it hurts. You have no ****ing clue what you're talking about. You just want to bitch. Because you are a bitch.

Soler and Gordon are the starting corner OFers. Next year should be a transition year for sure with plans to compete for a playoff spot in 2020. Find yourself some solid cheap bullpen pieces to build on going forward and get those college arms from this draft ready to roll. You get Gordon off the books in 20 as well which is nice. The position players are actually pretty solid.

Even with an elite bullpen, that lineup and starting rotation is at best an 80 win team. KC will not have an elite bullpen. I dont see them even having an average bullpen. Im happy a few of the young guys are showing promise, which is (I think) the point of the excitement... however they will still lose a LOT and we will have a ton of frustration next year. There is also virtually Zero depth for servicable ML ready talent to fill in for the inevitable injuries.

Sorry, you're really fooling yourself if you buy the nonsense from Moore that we can compete by 2020.

We went to two World Series with Aoki and Rios in RF. They'll definitely play both Soler and Boni, they're both just entering their prime years and have shown talent. Boni was derailed a bit this year by the suspension though. I guess we'll find out next year if he's the same player but both of those guys should be playing everyday.

No, 75 wins is their ceiling for another 3-4 years until actual talent starts arriving from the minors. 75 wins just means lower draft picks and false hope. We still have one of the worst minor league systems and have signed very little talent in IFA. Don't attack me because you're drinking the koolaid in thinking we are anywhere close to being competitive.

I'm not drinking the koolaid, bitch, just stating a fact. 75 wins would mean they are going in the right direction. Like I said you just want something to bitch about. Are you a girl?

What OF should they be sitting?

They refuse to sit Gordon even though they should...

Why do you even post in this thread? You do nothing but bitch and nag like some old woman. You can bring Jack Schitt.

They may rotate Soler and Boni between RF/DH. I don't see them playing much together.

So because I have an extremely pessimistic view on the team the next few years, and I'm extremely against the possible viewpoint that we're closer to contending than we really are, I should just stop posting or having an opinion? Are those attacking me too ignorant to actually argue against my viewpoints instead of attacking me personally? I have strong disagreements with people on here, but I don't think you see me attacking anyone personally. I don't expect a message board to be a beacon of intellectual thought, but I also didn't expect it to be full of mouth breathers who can't form an argument without attacking someone (ad hominem arguments).

But you are a ****ing idiot, most in this thread are not.

Yes.. we have heard your shit a million times. Trade every decent player for whatever the higest offer is. We get it..now shut the **** up.

Watch out I already got a message from him asking where I live. He wants to fight.

Hit the report button on that message please

Barring trades, injuries and additional roster construction, etc., it's not a bad plan to have Boni, Soler, Gordon and Goodwin occupying the 3 OF spots and DH. Each should get enough at-bats. Plus, Phillips has options and could just start in Omaha.

The current bullpen has so much to dislike, but I'm of the belief that they are sitting at about somewhere between the 2010 and 2011 bullpens...a few guys you're excited about (Newberry, McCarthy and probably Flynn...maybe Jason Adam).

Outside of that, there's a good probability it will slowly over-hauled towards internal talent and/or trades over the next 2 years...much like what happened in 2012-2013. While not a sure thing, I'm bullish on our developing bullpen as guys like Lovelady, Staumont and Marte push for promotion, hopefully. There are also several exciting arms in the lower minors that could move up quickly as well.

I've enjoyed watching the Royals a lot these past few years, including this year. It's a lot easier watching a rebuilding process when your team got so much out of its last two playoff runs. Having Whit and Mondesi up the middle is a big strength and something to build around. We still have a lot of question marks. We might be able to compete in a couple of years. Still, the product the Royals are putting on the field is watchable to old Royals fans such as myself, even with the baserunning mistakes at 3rd base yesterday in a disappointing loss.

The Royals affiliate Lexington Legends are tied 1-1 in the best-of-five South Atlantic League (Class A full-season) championship. Next game is tonight.

GO LEGENDS

He did the same shit in 2015 when we were kicking ass and taking names. Bitching and moaning about stupid shit.

What a miserable ****. Wife must have left him for his sister.

Yeah that pretty much explains kcchiefsus/OKChiefs.

He also posted how he hoped Johnny Cueto got shot in the head or something to that effect back when Cueto was struggling with us. I can't be the only one who remembers that.

Bonifacio and Soler are atrocious in the OF, with Boni being probably the better of the two on D. Especially having to play defense in the spacious Kaufman Stadium OF. I think they are both DH's. Whoever ends up not sucking out of the two needs to be our starting DH moving forward. We have way too many options in the OF who can both provide good defense and reasonable projected offense.

Honestly - in the long term - we need to move one of these two at some point.

I agree with this. The original thinking was, Soler will not be here when the Royals are good again. So he would be traded if he plays well and has some value. But, Bonifacio has been real bad this year. And, I believe he still has options. Bonifiacio could start 2019 in Omaha unless he has an awesome spring training next year.

Whose original thinking was that?

I'm not going to look it up but it might have been Mellinger or Pete Grathoff from the Star. It was not a "thought" that the Royals would ever admit.

DONT HASSLE THE HOZ


Hoz vs breaking balls

2015: .197
2016: .183
2017: .258
2018: .144


Had no idea how awful he was vs breaking balls. He's 44th among 1B in avg against them