There's more life in the buffalo's eyes.

Wish it was a shark eating a buffalo.

Very cool!

Not sure if you're being serious or not but the difference is quite obvious. One is Frank Clark at Arrowhead, and the other is an away game....eesh.

Patrick Mahomes has zero Superbowl appearances without Frank Clark, and the Chiefs have been in the Superbowl every year Clark has been on the team.

No shit it looks like Jason Voorhees or Michael Myers staring down a victim

Clark...worth every penny

From the day he signed Frank said it wasnt about stats..

it was about bringing the swag and lifting his teammates.. the intangibles.. .

so all u stat counters can **** off

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/d6JNlOMqOh">https://t.co/d6JNlOMqOh</a><br>I&#39;m a bit of a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> nerd, so I watched this entire <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealFrankC_</a> press conference again. I was inspired then and I&#39;m still inspired now. For all the numbers folks... he told you what it was that day. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RunItBack?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RunItBack</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Chad Avery (@KCChiefsChad20) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCChiefsChad20/status/1353877004328853504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

For Shakespeare, swagger meant “to walk or strut with a defiant or insolent air” or “to boast or brag noisily.” It's based on swag, or “sway,” as a swaggerer may so strut—and extended, by 1990s hip-hop, to “a confident attitude.”

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hahaha You da man Frank Clark! Go Chiefs! <a href="https://t.co/knFfJy5pxx">pic.twitter.com/knFfJy5pxx</a></p>&mdash; Coffee Junkie (@nexus_coffee) <a href="https://twitter.com/nexus_coffee/status/1354262647840108546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“There’s nothing like competing for that Vince Lombardi Trophy.” <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealFrankC_</a><br><br>Kingdom Short: Divisional Round drops tonight at 7 pm!</p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1352740465834160130?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He had the mic Sunday night:

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Clark the Shark is going to have another great SB performance. Probably make another Super Bowl-winning play.

I wish someone would ask him why he changed shoes at halftime. It's really bugging me, because it stands out so much when I am watching the game back, over and over.

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Frank is a huge part of our defense. He just is.

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The Shark will take a bite out of Brady!

I'll be very disappointed if he doesn't stick it in Tom's ass this game. Donovan Smith is average at best and shouldn't be quick enough to stop Clark. He needs to earn his check in the big one. I can't say I'm happy with his overall product, but he does tend to step it up when it matters most. And frankly, the Chiefs don't have anyone else on the edge that can bring what Clark can right now.

The Shark is going to gorge on Brady's ass in a feeding frenzy. mark it down.

"I truly believe if you're a champion at heart... you're going to turn that fire on when it matters"

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Best postseason defensive player in franchise history??

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes is so good that he made everyone forget that the Chiefs front office cut Justin Houston so they could trade a first round pick for a more expensive replacement, only for the replacement to be worse than Houston has been the last two years</p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1357302571329851393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This asshole left out the part about Houston’s injuries,I think clark has had some but played through them. Has clark missed a game since he’s been in kc?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Justin Houston w/Colts: 33 games, 19.5 sacks, 30 QB hits<br><br>Frank Clark w/Chiefs: 34 games, 21 sacks, 38 QB hits<br><br>Pound sand, Mike. <a href="https://t.co/r1TVvFOhPM">https://t.co/r1TVvFOhPM</a></p>&mdash; 114 Sent (@ClayWendler) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayWendler/status/1357346682170613764?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What a ****ing idiot.

Justin Houston never showed up in playoff games. Frank has had some of his best performances in playoff games.

It's funny that some people question Frank Clark's heart and commitment while lauding Justin Houston.

I think it was one of the Athletic guys who said that when asked about Houston's departure, what he would hear was that they needed guys who were committed and were leaders and were bought into the team culture, things like that. It doesn't seem like Houston's departure was a surprise and the defense is much better than it was the last time Houston was here. And specifically about this team needing to take a step on D in 2018 and not being able to do it, he was invisible in that Patriots game when just a little more would have put us over the top. Good for him for becoming a productive player again but we couldn't even find anyone who'd give up anything for him in trade after that season.

If we need a defensive stop in the 4th quarter on Sunday to seal or save the game, and you give me a choice of who might make a big play, I am taking Clark 10 times out of 10

PFF writer is a reerun? I'm shocked y'all.

He had a sack in the titans game and 2 in the Indy game.

Justin Houston in KC:

1 AFCCG, 0 Super Bowls

Frank Clark in KC:

2 AFCCG, 2 Super Bowls

That's disingenuous don't you think? You don't think the chiefs would have won any Superbowls if they had Mahomes 2013 to 2017 (yes I know he was on the team 2017, but he wasn't starting)?

He also would have went to and I bet won the Superbowl if Dee Ford didn't line up offsides in 2018.

Btw, before Staylor comes in here pumped full of Mountain Dew energy, me talking up Houston has nothing to do with Clark right now. Clark played great in the AFCCG.

PFF can suck balls. Every move Veach made is completely justified because we won the SB. Thats all that matters. Clark was huge in the plYoffs and Houston is not, end of story.

Or maybe if Houston had gotten off his ass and sacked Brady?

Houston ALWAYS sucked dick against NE.

His stat line in that AFCCG was horrible.

95 snaps, 2 tackles, 0 QB Hits, 0 TFL, 0 sacks.

I agree. He had a bad game. He's sacked Brady 4 in 3 other games though.

The entire defense was pretty bad that day. That's why Spags is here now. :thumb:

It's no more disingenuous than any of the other arguments.

At least it's based on actual results and not some knee jerk emotional reaction like that tweet.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark turns it up in the playoffs...<br><br>Stats Past 2 Postseasons - (NFL Rank)<br><br>7 Sacks (1st) <br>8 TFL (1st)<br>21 Pressures (2nd) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/MeRPaGgRIo">pic.twitter.com/MeRPaGgRIo</a></p>&mdash; CBS Sports HQ (@CBSSportsHQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/status/1357166892251815938?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't have any hate for Houston. In fact, I'm pretty sure in the weeks before the Clark trade was announced, I advocated for possibly keeping him.

But his performance in the playoffs historically wasn't great. You could even say that he was largely invisible for the most part. How much of that was him, and how much of that was Sutton's scheme/inability to make in-game adjustments, or even to use Houston better than he did are all matters that could be up for debate. But the bottom line is Houston wasn't a playoff game performer during his time with KC.

Frank Clark has played really big in the playoffs, and seemingly bigger when the lights were brightest and on the biggest stages. Clark is a winner, period.

Without a doubt, can we just kill this ****ing narrative?
Who spends this much time trying to find cracks in their own foundation of talent?

Get a ****ing life

Using team success to measure the difference the player is disingenuous. Ben Neimann has more AFCCG and superbowl wins than Derrick Johnson. What does that mean?

I think Clark has been better than Houston in the playoffs, but using team wins as a way of proving that is dumb.

This is all that matters and all that needs to be said.

Would have had a fumble recovery (and possibly a TD) if not for the forward progress ruling, too.

You'd have to include time Clark's spent playing with a hefty lead to make the comparison more fair.

So it doesn’t matter if it’s just stats. You need to add an asterisk to every lead that Clark has. Got it.

LMAO

And apparently include almost stats for Houston.

I agree with this, and would add that Houston always had another bookend to help out as well.....Dee Ford, Tamba Hali.....

Heck, in the 2018 AFCCG, Houston had both Ford and Jones taking pressure off of him....and still couldn't do anything...

Who has Clark had in his playoff? Jones of course, but KPass and Okafor don't command double teams.....yet Clark delivers.

Fans still suffering from playoff PTSD.:thumb:

It's idiotic, but I guess it's to be expected from some people of this fanbase. It's actually kind of funny when you think about it. We have a winning team, a SB winning team with probably a few more SB appearances ahead of us, and some people just can't let the past go. I actually feel kind of sorry for them. Instead of seeing the positives, they can only wallow in the negatives, and even have to have those negatives, like a security blanket or like a baby sucking their thumbs. Without it, they start caterwauling.

I honestly hope they find their way out of it.

Why do people never talk about his 2 sacks in the Indy game? He delivered then and then had a bad game the next week. Clark had a bad game against the Browns and then delivered against the Bills.

Because Clark did it in every playoff game the year before.

Exactly.

All of these arguments are dumb.

Clark is here, Houston isn't.

There's no reason to even discuss it.

Houston had his opportunity to stay for less money. He chose not to. **** him. He’s gone.

Most stats need context.

The stats posted show they're actually pretty similar. One plays on a decent team whose strength is the defense, the other is playing on a squad with one of the best offenses of all time. Clark has more favorable opportunities to rack up pass rushing stats, yet overall their numbers aren't all that different.

Houston scooped up that fumble. He made that play, which would have been a big one. He was just unlucky enough to be ****ed over by one of the worst calls in NFL history.

I agree. But Houston had 3 sacks in his last 3 playoff games with us. That doesn't count for anything? He had 1 bad game in his last 4 playoff opportunities with us.

Hey guys....Tyreek Hill’s stats aren’t that impressive. I mean he plays on a team with a high powered offense and a future HOF at QB. That how that works?

Never said it didn’t count. I’ve said my piece about him. He had his chance to stay and he chose not to. That’s all that matters.

This.

I fully agree. He should have taken that pay cut. Bet he regrets it now.

I’m not sure he would fit in with this defense. Schematically? Yes. But I could see him and Mathieu butting heads. Clark and Mathieu fit perfectly together.

I'll be honest, I haven't missed Justin Houston once since he left. I like the guy, but this defensive unit is 10x what we had in 2018. I mean its not even close.

It's about opportunity.

Had we had a Dee Ford situation against the Browns and got knocked out of contention, Clark would never have had the opportunity to come back and have a monster game the next week against the Bills.

If Dee Ford lines up correctly or our trash DBs were able to make any one of three stops on 3rd and long, who knows what Houston would have done in the Super Bowl against the Rams? In our matchup against them earlier in the year, Houston had 2 sacks, one of which went for what should have been the game-winning TD late in the 4th quarter.

Tyreek put up elite numbers, which is always impressive.

But trying to compare in a vacuum is bullshit because football isn't played in a vacuum. Do you not agree that Hill putting up this exact same stat line with Gardner Minshew throwing to him as opposed to Patrick Mahomes would have been more impressive?

Is that true? I don't remember him having a bad game at all. The Browns are a running team and stopping the run was paramount. While we didn't fully shut them down, we did pretty well stopping the run.

No it’s not true.

Why do people want to take Houston's one exception to the general rule that he disappears in the playoffs and compare that against Frank Clark's one exception to the general rule that he shows up big in big games?

EDIT: and the "one" Clark example is a weak one at best.....he actually played well in the Browns game

Frank Clark doesn't have bad games. He doesn't usually have big splashy games either. But i can't recall ever saying to myself, "damn that was a bad game by Clark".

Houston had had 1 bad game in his last 5 playoff games.

You absolutely have to put into perspective the value his locker room presence provides. Their stats are close enough to be considered a toss-up but given Clark’s youth and overall leadership qualities, there really isn’t much discussion to be had.

The Houston/Berry defense was talented but the mentality simply wasn’t SB caliber. Now it is, and Clark is a big reason for it.

Historical allegory for Clark:

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Cowboys defense was light years better when he arrived. Wrecked shit in the playoffs. Three rings.

Cowboys traded a 2nd and 3rd to get him, and he also signed a 3-year, $12 million contract in 1995 (this was back when QBs like Troy Aikman were making less than $10 million a year).

Haley had TEN SACKS in his first two years in Dallas. TOTAL.

Regular season stats are for losers.

This

We lost multiple playoff games in which we allowed less than 20 points. Berry and Houston's defenses weren't the problems LMAO

I don't know. Were they all coverage sacks? Apparently that makes all the difference.

Clark and Honey Badger def brought a much needed attitude change when they were brought here. Ford was soft, horrible against the run and cost us a SB appearance w that stupid penalty. I understand why Chiefs moved on.

That said, Clark is nothing special and his contract pays him like he is. He is good against the run and a solid overall but he doesn't do anything great. You can say stats don't tell the whole story which is true but what is he doing that is so great that stats don't show? Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see it.

If Chiefs released him tomorrow you think another team would sign him to contract we did? Come on..

He's just not worth his contract. Plain and simple. You could argue 'hey we are winning with him so he is worth it!' Sign another guy half his price to show up just in the playoffs and trash talk we would still be winning. He's a role played being paid like a superstar.

Frank Clark is a stud. His intangibles as a tone setter and leader go much unnoticed. HB, Stone Cold, and The Shark are always in the oppositions' heads.

Frank looking fat.

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Shhhh... you wanna get shot?

The Kansas City Chiefs won a superbowl championship due to a culture change on defense that largely involved Frank Clark.

I addition to "being good against the run and solid overall" (which by the way, we were not even close to being before at his position), he brings an element of swagger to the field.

Closed out each playoff game with a sack, taljed mad shit on Derrick Henry before helping hokd him to 67 yards, and continued talking mad shit on defense in the superbowl against the Niners after Patricks late interception.

D could EASILY have gone in the tank, and instead, He's running his mouth "Yall asses are going home.". Defense was HUGE late in that game making big stops so Pat could do his hero thing.

Frank Clark is worth every ****ing penny we paid him. That title is priceless.

We've been to back to back superbowls and won one, something a lot of members and friends here died never getting to see.

Worth every penny, even if he never plays another down.

If Frank gets 12+ sacks I'll shoot myself.

Another bet you will welch on.