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BigRedChief 09-08-2023 10:17 AM

Why in the hell does Reid waste 2 plays on him to start the game? He doesnt do shit. Ruins our opening drive and sets the initial tone? What has he ever dont to warrant that trust?

jettio 09-08-2023 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17096299)
Anyone saying he shouldn't have taken the cut back are reeruned. The cut back is a easy 4 yard before CONTACT

The problem with your analysis of that is that the Lions LB and Lions safety CJGJ get good grades on that play from their coaches for holding their ground to cover any cutbacks.

AdolfOliverBush 09-08-2023 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17096316)
Why in the hell does Reid waste 2 plays on him to start the game? He doesnt do shit. Ruins our opening drive and sets the initial tone? What has he ever dont to warrant that trust?

Agreed, KC should come out throwing haymakers, not pawing jabs. The Chiefs should be Mike Tyson, not Floyd Mayweather.

HC_Chief 09-08-2023 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 17096314)
I meant during the draft process. It was stated over and over (and over) that MEH was super elusive, especially in small areas. He looked the part in college, but it sure as **** didn't translate to the NFL.

"...he's better than Westbrook"
Per James Palmer, that's what Reid told Veach. :spock:

ooooof

MahomesMagic 09-08-2023 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 17096337)
"...he's better than Westbrook"
Per James Palmer, that's what Reid told Veach. :spock:

ooooof

I liked CEH coming out but I had him behind Swift, Taylor, and Dobbs.

I knew he didn't have the physical attributes of a 1st rounder but expected him to be what we see with the Lions David Montgomery.

He's way worse than I thought he would be.

CatfishBob2 09-08-2023 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17096299)
Anyone saying he shouldn't have taken the cut back are reeruned. The cut back is a easy 4 yard before CONTACT

No it's not there's 2 maybe even three defenders waiting for it.....follow your blockers and you have a chance to break something even bigger.

Mckinnon and Perine look like the better pure runners on this team. There has to be a reason they're buried on this depth chart

siberian khatru 09-08-2023 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17096258)
Clyde is the worst RB I've ever seen. I'm not even kidding.

He's not fast. He's not big. No big play ability. Not a force in short yardage situations.

Just a real piece of shit.


Trent Richardson

myselff77 09-08-2023 11:03 AM

CEH has about 10 more weeks of fulfilling his role of taking hits so Pacheco isn't totally banged up for the stretch run and playoffs. Each time CEH runs straight into a D lineman, that's 3 less hits Pacheco would have accumulated running through people.

This is CEH's only value at this point.

New World Order 09-08-2023 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17096433)
Trent Richardson

Touche

Womble 09-08-2023 11:05 AM

Timely reminder that this guy no showed at the Super Bowl parade because he went to a New York fashion week event.

Eleazar 09-08-2023 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 17096337)
"...he's better than Westbrook"
Per James Palmer, that's what Reid told Veach. :spock:

ooooof

He's more like a worse version of Aaron Jones to me.

He was overdrafted and fits as a rotational guy rather than a lead back.

FloridaMan88 09-08-2023 11:27 AM

It’s unfathomable that the Chiefs arrived at the start of another season with MEHHHHH still on the roster.

I’d take Kareem Hunt over him at this point.

kcpasco 09-08-2023 11:30 AM

Andy is extremely loyal, we need to accept that as Chiefs fans even if frustrating. The man has brought us 2 Lombardi trophies. It’s also why players love him.

Skyy God 09-08-2023 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 17096314)
I meant during the draft process. It was stated over and over (and over) that MEH was super elusive, especially in small areas. He looked the part in college, but it sure as **** didn't translate to the NFL.

That Saints dirty hit sapped his explosiveness.

He seems like he knows he’s done in the NFL after this year.

ToxSocks 09-08-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 17096506)
Andy is extremely loyal, we need to accept that as Chiefs fans even if frustrating. The man has brought us 2 Lombardi trophies.

He ain't THAT loyal. He'll bench some mother****ers if he has to.

Though i don't expect him to do that after 1 week.

Pepe Silvia 09-08-2023 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17096510)
That Saints dirty hit sapped his explosiveness.

He seems like he knows he’s done in the NFL after this year.

They screwed his hip up pretty bad. This is the reason Denver hired Payton.

Hammock Parties 09-08-2023 11:44 AM

I do not understand why McKinnon doesn't get Clyde's touches.

Womble 10-01-2023 08:30 PM

Can we just never play this piece of shit ever again?

Wisconsin_Chief 10-01-2023 08:42 PM

I actually hate CEH. I know I shouldn’t, it’s not his fault he sucks and Andy keeps playing him, but I despise him. I can’t wait for him to be gone.

Womble 10-01-2023 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17141556)
I actually hate CEH. I know I shouldn’t, it’s not his fault he sucks and Andy keeps playing him, but I despise him. I can’t wait for him to be gone.

I kind of feel that way but I also remember how he snubbed the victory parade to go to a fashion show because he was pissed that he wasn't in the Super Bowl 53 man squad. He's a piece of shit and I hate that he makes millions for being a waste of space.

Valiant 10-01-2023 09:28 PM

I feel bad for him. I am not sure what happened to him for him to not use his speed anymore but unless the line opens a lane a planeteer can get 4 yards on. CEH is getting stopped.

smithandrew051 10-01-2023 09:31 PM

Even when he has a nice run, a different running back would’ve gotten more.

10 yards for CEH would’ve been 20 for Pacheco.

He just has zero burst.

ThaVirus 10-01-2023 09:36 PM

I don’t want to see this guy on the field unless it’s mop up duty in a 20 point blowout

Pitt Gorilla 10-01-2023 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17142400)
I don’t want to see this guy on the field unless it’s mop up duty in a 20 point blowout

Honestly, we need to upgrade him AND McKinnon.

suzzer99 10-01-2023 09:50 PM

We need CEH for garbage time so McKinnon and Pacheco don't get beat up. But that's it.

BWillie 10-01-2023 09:53 PM

Dont let CEH touch the ball.

Womble 10-01-2023 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17142499)
Honestly, we need to upgrade him AND McKinnon.

McKinnon is fine for a 3rd option. There are only a handful of RBs in the NFL that are playmakers without the ball in their hands. His blocking ability is ridiculous.

Chief Pagan 10-01-2023 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17096541)
I do not understand why McKinnon doesn't get Clyde's touches.

Because they want him to be available for the post season?

Womble 10-08-2023 03:55 PM

Why is it that every week we must suffer watching this parade ducking, wannabe fashionista, midget piece of shit ruining our drives?

Wisconsin_Chief 10-08-2023 03:57 PM

Utter dog shit. Does not belong on an NFL roster.

DJ's left nut 10-08-2023 04:26 PM

Still sucks.

Really the only reason this thread ever gets bumped these days.

He's hot garbage.

Danguardace 10-08-2023 04:29 PM

Please just cut him already

ThaVirus 10-08-2023 04:46 PM

I know we can’t run Pop or Jet into the ground, but if we’re gonna waste 3-5 carries a game, may as well do it with a back who has some chance of taking one further than 2 yards.

ChiefsFanatic 10-08-2023 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 17154944)
Please just cut him already

Deneric Prince could have matched CEH's production so far.

I think Bernie and his two puppeteers could match CEH's production this year.

RealSNR 10-08-2023 06:16 PM

I got told earlier in the offseason “he’s fine for a 3rd RB.”

I’m really not so sure about that one

Pitt Gorilla 10-08-2023 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17155172)
I know we can’t run Pop or Jet into the ground, but if we’re gonna waste 3-5 carries a game, may as well do it with a back who has some chance of taking one further than 2 yards.

Jet kinda sucks as a RB as well. I'd love someone like Perine, Prince, or BOTH to take roster spots.

-King- 10-08-2023 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17155172)
I know we can’t run Pop or Jet into the ground, but if we’re gonna waste 3-5 carries a game, may as well do it with a back who has some chance of taking one further than 2 yards.

Kinda would like to see Toney lined up at RB on some plays.

FloridaMan88 10-08-2023 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17156112)
I got told earlier in the offseason “he’s fine for a 3rd RB.”

I’m really not so sure about that one

And with McKinnon being used as a load managed third down back who is barely getting any rushing attempts, MEHHH is essentially RB2 when it comes to RB rushing attempts.

The Chiefs need an upgrade.

Mosbonian 10-08-2023 06:33 PM

Count me as one who thinks we should bury him on the Practice Squad and let someone take him off our hands.

Let Perine or Prince play...

Pitt Gorilla 10-08-2023 07:04 PM

Wonder if EB would send us a 7th for him.

carcosa 10-08-2023 07:20 PM

He must be SO nice

BryanBusby 10-08-2023 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17156112)
I got told earlier in the offseason “he’s fine for a 3rd RB.”

I’m really not so sure about that one

He's ****ing cooked.

smithandrew051 10-08-2023 07:40 PM

This guy is so ****ing slow

Bl00dyBizkitz 10-08-2023 07:52 PM

I just don't get it. Unless Pacheco is more injured than we realize and we really need someone to take those reps, this guy shouldn't make it on the field. He's awful.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2023 07:56 PM

"Drive killer" is being bandied about on twitter a lot.

Bring up one of the kids.

PHOG 10-08-2023 08:03 PM

I honestly believe Perine could do better unless it may be the pass pro.

Bl00dyBizkitz 10-08-2023 08:04 PM

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Look at his first game. He looks like a completely different player. I swear that Saints injury ruined him.

Womble 10-08-2023 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17156476)
"Drive killer" is being bandied about on twitter a lot.

Bring up one of the kids.

I think I might be a bit sad when he goes just because I love cussing him out in the game day threads. Calling CEH a piece of shit after every 1 yard gain has become my routine and part of the matchday experience.

https://i.postimg.cc/YqDQxWfV/Screen...009-030135.png

I hate him but I'll be sad to see it end. Even though I ****ing hate him.

TwistedChief 10-08-2023 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17156500)
I think I might be a bit sad when he goes just because I love cussing him out in the game day threads. Calling CEH a piece of shit after every 1 yard gain has become my routine and part of the matchday experience.

https://i.postimg.cc/YqDQxWfV/Screen...009-030135.png

I hate him but I'll be sad to see it end. Even though I ****ing hate him.

I dislike Clyde. I think he is more of a problem in this offense than any of our WRs. But when you become the social media guy who is emblematic of criticism, maybe it's time to take it down a notch. And realize that the real villain now is the guy who is playing him.

Womble 10-08-2023 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17156508)
I dislike Clyde. I think he is more of a problem in this offense than any of our WRs. But when you become the social media guy who is emblematic of criticism, maybe it's time to take it down a notch. And realize that the real villain now is the guy who is playing him.

I agree with your post. I'm generally quite a measured guy and know it's not his fault that he's getting more carries than he deserves (which is zero).

headsnap 10-08-2023 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17156496)
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Look at his first game. He looks like a completely different player. I swear that Saints injury ruined him.

strange that it affected his vision...

TLO 10-08-2023 08:19 PM

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Look at his first game. He looks like a completely different player. I swear that Saints injury ruined him.

He never really had a lot of "burst" to begin with, but now he has none at all. He's 2 yards and a cloud of dust.

I'd rather see someone from the practice squad get his carries. As long as they can hold onto the ball.

Molitoth 10-08-2023 08:21 PM

Clyde seems like a great dude off the field, I just don't want to watch him play football anymore.

Same opinion I had of Alex Smith.

Bowser 10-08-2023 08:24 PM

Outside of his lack of vision and lack of burst, I can't really find a reason to dislike him.

KCUnited 10-08-2023 08:25 PM

People were stoked when he turned a 2 yard loss into a 2 yard gain with the push of a lineman

So a 4 yard gain

That’s where we’re at with him

RealSNR 10-08-2023 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17156493)
I honestly believe Perine could do better unless it may be the pass pro.

We've only ever had Clyde on the field on 1st and 2nd down. He does his 1-yard blind run straight into the defenders on 1st down and then he's basically done.

We don't need that particular RB in that role to block.

BigRedChief 10-08-2023 08:42 PM

Every time he touches the ball, I get pissed.

RealSNR 10-08-2023 08:44 PM

Also, no, I don't think Prince is the answer, either.

From what I saw, he's the one person more blind than CEH when it comes to vision.

St. Patty's Fire 10-08-2023 08:46 PM

he’s basically a mid season punching bag rn

dude just exists to keep pacheco and jet fresh

Chief Pagan 10-08-2023 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 17156536)
Clyde seems like a great dude off the field, I just don't want to watch him play football anymore for the donks.

Same opinion I had of Alex Smith.

.

BigBeauford 10-08-2023 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 17156609)
he’s basically a mid season punching bag rn

dude just exists to keep pacheco and jet fresh

Might as well stick to passing to give Pacheco a break.

irafreak 10-08-2023 09:58 PM

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Look at his first game. He looks like a completely different player. I swear that Saints injury ruined him.

Yep. I was actually upset when he got hurt. Thought it was a big hit to our offense heading into the post season. He looked good until then.

ThyKingdomCome15 10-08-2023 11:35 PM

He stared off very well for sure.

BWillie 10-08-2023 11:46 PM

Cut this guy like yesterday. Nobody would even give us a 7th round pick for this shitstain. Would at least see what Perine can do. CEH is the laughing stock of RBs.

JPH83 10-08-2023 11:49 PM

He's awful and we have to find a way to get him out. The whole sunk cost thing is infuriating. Every snap he gets we just realise more what a terrible pick he was. Take the L here and put Perine in.

Pepe Silvia 10-09-2023 05:22 AM

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Look at his first game. He looks like a completely different player. I swear that Saints injury ruined him.

It really did, they f***** up his hip bad.

crispystl 10-09-2023 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17154870)
Still sucks.

Really the only reason this thread ever gets bumped these days.

He's hot garbage.

The amount of early downs we waste on 1-2 yard runs for Clyde is mind-bottling. I just don't understand it. It completely kills the flow and the efficiency of the offense. Andy knows what he's doing obviously, but man I just don't get it.

crispystl 10-09-2023 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17155267)
Deneric Prince could have matched CEH's production so far.

I think Bernie and his two puppeteers could match CEH's production this year.

Should've cut Clyde and kept Perine.

crispystl 10-09-2023 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17156896)
It really did, they f***** up his hip bad.

Yeah wow, he doesn't cut like that anymore and he's about 1.5 steps slower as well.

scho63 10-09-2023 05:36 AM

Hard to disagree with any of yesterday's posts. I have no personal animosity towards CEH but he should no longer be carrying the ball for the Chiefs.

The Chiefs should make him a fullback for the remainder of the season.

Pepe Silvia 10-09-2023 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 17156900)
Yeah wow, he doesn't cut like that anymore and he's about 1.5 steps slower as well.

That’s why Sean Payton deserves to lose every game from here on out.

Sofa King 10-09-2023 06:16 AM

I'm ok with Clyde getting these early season reps. Beat him up to save McKinnon for the playoff run.

Dunerdr 10-09-2023 06:18 AM

The Saints injury changed his body. It's unfortunate. And I half convinced Reid and Veach are just letting him rack up those vet years and money.

Simply Red 10-09-2023 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17156376)
He must be SO nice

I know write!!!

Rainbarrel 10-09-2023 06:32 AM

Ice and fire?

farmerchief 10-09-2023 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17156896)
It really did, they f***** up his hip bad.

Yep, lost all that quickness, especially in his cuts, too bad. Now hes JAG,

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-09-2023 08:29 AM

He had 9 snaps yesterday... My God people, he's a good pass blocker and he's taking early season snaps from Pacheco, who at the end of the game yesterday, looked a little banged up.

BleedingRed 10-09-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17157078)
He had 9 snaps yesterday... My God people, he's a good pass blocker and he's taking early season snaps from Pacheco, who at the end of the game yesterday, looked a little banged up.

bro he curses drives

Hammock Parties 10-09-2023 09:18 AM

PFR's defines a successful run as one that gets 40% of the yards needed on first down, 60% on second down, 100% on third and fourth down. Among the 50 RBs with at least 25 carries this season, only two have a lower success rate than Clyde.

FloridaMan88 10-09-2023 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17157078)
He had 9 snaps yesterday... My God people, he's a good pass blocker and he's taking early season snaps from Pacheco, who at the end of the game yesterday, looked a little banged up.

Three first down runs… 2 yards, 1 yard, 1 yard.

Automatic second and long.


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