No thanks

If they want brown, send them 31 and be done with it

I think this person is putting waaaaay too much vaule on Hardman.

WTF would BAL ever do this trade?

They wouldn’t. It’s ridiculous.

But what is the point of making up potential trades and discussing them at length anyway? Such a waste of time.

Well damn I guess someone needs to get ahold of Kyke and shut down CP based in this response.

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Why would Baltimore do that?

If that were a realistic option, I'd think Veach would be burning the buttons off his phone trying to dial them up.

Mecole and our 2nd might be realistic.

Who’s still out there at lber that could come in and help

KJ Wright and Avery Williamson

Qwan Alexander, Aj Bouye, Clowney, Tyler Eifert.

Kj probably be too expensive right?

Might be a spot to go draft?

Ingram probably ends the clowney stuff.

The safety market hasn’t really taken off might get a nice deal with someone

Probably more than they’re willing to spend, yea.

Veach did mention the LB group in this draft, and we haven’t been connected to any in free agency that I’m aware of, so probably.

Wouldn’t be opposed

I’d like to see them add someone. Hopefully gay takes off too.

He wouldn’t give Seattle any hometown discount to re-sign...but the FA market is pretty bad. He will be 32 by training camp, so I doubt signing him would be very expensive.

The whole armchair architect thing is getting pretty old when it comes without reprisal... If I say something dumb, throw stones, just do me the courtesy of extending the same treatment to others who say dumb things

Just read in Peter kings mmqb article that the chiefs were ready to pay Hudson more than the cardinals were if he got released

Sure wish we could have signed Linsley or Hudson.

Here's my issue.

Everybody keeps saying let's trade picks and lock down the LT position for years.

At least with someone like Orlando Brown, that's probably true. Tunsil is 26 so he's a possibility as well. Plus both of those guys would start right away, day 1.

My fear with trading up in the first round is Eric Fisher.

They took Fisher #1 overall to "lock up the LT position for 12 years". He played EIGHT and now he's done. Not only that but he wasn't ready to play LT year 1 so they tried him on the right side and he was terrible. About the time Eric Fisher was ready to play at an elite level, he ended up no longer on the team.

I'm just not down with it.

If they really want to trade picks, go get Orlando Brown.

Otherwise, stay put in the draft, get a guy like Villanueva and try to spread the risk around.

The issue even with that though is that, at some point, you're probably gonna have to either trade up for someone to play LT or sign a big contract for someone.

It's all up to the scouting and such. This isn't like the QB spot where if they miss they're dead, they've shown to be good enough with the mid and other round picks to survive.

If they're going to trade this year's 1st AND next year's 1st, it needs to be as near a sure thing as possible. For that price, gimme Orlando Brown or another established player.

Fisher was the best of one of the worst drafts ever.

I don’t have any problem trading up this year bc the prospects are much better than Fisher was. I have full trust that a LT we trade up for will be solid for years. That’s how much faith I have in Veach, Andy and our scouts.

I really don’t understand the injury fear? If Tyreek Hill ruptures his Achilles he’ll never be as good again. Still very good, but not like before.

Anyone can get injured at any time in this game. It sucks but it shouldn’t deter you from getting a player.

I really do think that last years rookie class gave us a shit load of leverage. I have strong confidence in Gay from what I’ve seen. I think he’s gonna be the best LB we’ve had since DJ (not saying much but still). If Niang hits and is even decent? Then damn that’s an A+ rookie class.

Just keep getting your Fenton’s Danna’s, Wharton’s, Sneeds and Thornhill and we’ll be fine. Even Hardman has value

No, even with a big trade up, the prospects that will probably be available will NOT be much better than Fisher. That's ridiculous. This draft isn't that much different from the average LT draft. There's 2 elite guys, one borderline guy, and then a bunch of question marks. Unless we're trading into the top 12-14 for Slater or Darrisaw, we're essentially giving up two picks or more for Eric Fisher.

It's not a fear. See next answer.

This is EXACTLY my point. Everybody keeps saying the justification for the trade up is "locking up the LT position for the next decade". Anybody can get injured at any time. The likelihood of any player playing the next decade is not great. So would you rather have one player for 8 or one this year for 5 cost controlled years AND another guy next year for 5 cost controlled years? Giving up 1st round picks like candy just isn't a good strategy.

What does any of this have to do with the LT postion? Are you suggesting that all these guys means we can give away next year's first rounder because we don't need it?

LMAO Implying that using next years first rounder to move up into range to ensure drafting an elite LT prospect = giving it away.

There are really 2 elite prospects in this draft. Neither of them will likely make it outside of the top 10.

So what would you call it if you trade 2 first rounders for a guy that might not be able to start right away at LT and play at a high level?

Over half the board thinks the Frank Clark trade was bad.

Over half the board thinks we should do virtually the same thing to address the LT position.

Doesn't get any better than Chiefsplanet.

Yeah, I dont think anyone is arguing to trade up for just any LT. Its always been one of the top 3, and theres enough talent up top to push them down far enough that we may have a realistic chance to trade up for one of them.

The Chargers and Vikings pick 13th and 14th. You're going to have to trade up likely to 12 to get Darrisaw or Slater.

Fine by me.

And for the record, plenty of scouts thing Slater should be an IOL in the NFL and Darrisaw will need to time to develop into a top tier LT.

Sewell is the only "sure thing" in this draft, if there is such a thing.

No way I'm trading up that far.

Trade up 10 or so spots and take a guy like Sam Cosmi. Nearly as much upside and far less cost.

We're just never going to agree on this.

There's only one position on the field worth that much draft capital.

LMAO Thought Slaters measurements at his pro day squashed that line of thinking. He's not nearly as undersized or "lacking length" as you seem to have convinced yourself he is.

This is where I am. We can’t afford to trade tons of future assets to move to the early teens.

I think they need to zone in on Jenkins and Cosmi and see if one of them are long term solutions. Hopefully don’t give up a future 1st to do it

I'm all for trading up. Just not trading up nearly 20 spots.

I haven't convinced myself of anything.

I'm reading scouting reports. They're the ones with the opinions.

Ignore them if you like, I'm not going to.

Yeah, I saw the measurements you were using to argue against Slater in the draft forum. I don't know which scout you got those from but they're laughably wrong.

Well, he got housed repeatedly by AJ Epinesa and a lot of other guys with length. I've seen a couple dozen Northwestern games. I'm good with my evaluation.

You do you.

LMAO Alrighty then

What else you want me to say?

You've been salty ever since the Super Bowl. That's your thing.

If they think Darrisaw is an all pro LT, trade up for him. If not, don't.

I think I've probably talked myself into sitting at 31 and taking Walker Little and keeping my picks.

They might be able to get Little into the 2nd. They could trade down at that point.

The salary cap dropped by what, almost $15m?

Veach aggressively cleared cap space, and clearly had two big targets, landing one.

I know we all wish he'd gotten the OTHER one in hindsight, what can you do? It's not like he didn't try.

This is the FIRST WAVE of free agency, and in a year in which the cap dropped like it did, there will be a big second wave as teams struggle to get under the cap.

Bargain shopping is usually the best usage of financial resources, and I'm sure we'll be players there.

I'm also sure that there will be some trades for guys that Veach targets on teams that need to dump some salary.

AND there's still the draft, where Veach has been nails the last couple of years.

I'm really not worried. I'm curious; and just like you, I don't see exactly what the plan is, but I don't doubt that there IS one, and it'll make sense within another month or so.

LMAO What are you talking about? I've been just fine and dandy ever since Veach committed to a complete overhaul of the OL. You're the one that seems to be a bit rustled.

They might be able to, but I doubt he makes it to the end of the 2nd. I'm ok reaching a bit for a LT.

Teams are already under the cap now, they won't have to make many more moves.

You've shot in literally every move anyone has suggested other than the one you like.

Seriously, you haven't noticed that?

Yeah, trading down would be great but it gives other teams to jump you again and take your guy. If he’s your guy and you’d take him 10-15 spots later....just grab him.

I don’t want to go into next season reading articles saying “Little was their guy but they thought they could get him later. They settled on “X”.”

Hair Helmet has us taking Little at #31 in his first mock draft, FWIW.

It's mostly just the veteran brokedicks I didn't want.

Yep.

Just take him and be done with it. Value is great, but if he's your LT, those extra couple slots won't matter.

Like Trent Williams?

there are always salary dumps later in the offseason. Why would this year be less so?

This is true.

Teams have already dumped the biggest salaries they can. I doubt theres any more big ones, but there usually are a few so who knows.

Right. He hasn't played a full season since 2013. He's incredibly talented, yes, but also a brokedick.

Well, you don't like my opinion on Rashawn Slater and I don't like your opinion of Trent Williams. So we're even.

That's fine, but Trent Williams failing to play a full 16 game season since 2013 isn't an opinion.

He missed 6 games because of a knee injury and he had cancer. Other than that, he hasn't missed a significant chuck of any one season and played most of the 2012 season with a foot injury that would have sidelined a lot of people.

I don't think that qualifies him as a brokedick.

It's not like he's had 3 back injuries and 2 knee surgeries like Dee Ford or 7 different repair surgeries like Kyle Long.

That's nice. Still hasn't managed a full 16 game season since 2013 and with our championship aspirations we're hopefully playing at least 20.

And Rashawn Slater struggles with lengthy athletic DE's, plus many scouts think he's a projected IOL.

See how that works?

Chiefs need a nice #2 WR. Not much left out on the market at this point.

Ty maybe the best option left in FA.

Of course, there's still Odell.....

Not really sure where to put this. Maybe this kid falls.

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He’s tiny. He’s smaller than De’Anthony Thomas LMAO

Fall to what pick #4 instead of #3? Dude is the best WR in the past 10 years.

He’s not even the best WR in this class.

If by #3, you mean 3rd WR taken then yeah, he might fall to the 4th WR taken.

He's not even the 2nd best WR in this class.

Tomorrow can’t come quick enough. Hopefully come away with Ingram and Williams.

OT, WR2 though...

I think those will be our first 2 picks next month

Sign Ingram, Williams, Reiter, Okung and draft a T and WR in the first 2 rounds.

Him and Chase are 1A and 1B

He wasn't even the best receiver on Alabama.

Waddle is just fast. He’s like Hardman

Nope. Not even close.

Waddle is a game changer.

Speed+ instincts, angles, route running.

I was one who wasn't fooled by Ruggs last year. I don't take guys based on just speed.

Yep and I’m trading up in the 2nd for whichever one we don’t draft at 31.

We gotta be aggressive in the draft.

Antonio Callaway is somebody to keep an eye on. Has a lot of upside if he can keep his nose clean.

This is pretty wrong, yo.

Devonta Smith player comp is Antonio brown

And Ruggs player comp last year was Tyreek Hill.

It means nothing.

Now, I like Smith way more than Ruggs, but he’s at best #2 in this class and arguably #3.

If he fell into I our range, I’d still be all over it.

Ruggs had a very similar first season as Hill did

#Chiefs are closing in on finalizing a one-year deal to bring back S Daniel Sorensen, source says.

Five down...

Let's go Honey Badger, Ingram, and Bateman...

What the **** is going on

The Titans adding some weapons. Josh Reynolds will sign with the Tennessee Titans, per source.*
The wide receiver had a few great options including the Kansas City Chiefs, but he chose to go play for the Titans.