I agree. We are not going to win many putting up 13 points. But damn! We didn't lead a game last year until the leaves had all fallen off of the trees, and averaged 13 a game. Chances are that is not going to happen again. Neither case.

I didn't say Alex was going to average 13 PPG.

But if he plays the way he did in SF, we are ****ed.

The #2 D isn't coming with him.

I understand what you are saying on this part. Hell, we barely put 3 points a game on the board by half time last season. I'm really expecting something closer to 13 a game at half this season.

But yes, any team in the NFL... not just the Chiefs... are going to be fortunate to win games when 13 is the number on the scoreboard at the final gun.

As I have told him countless times. No one thought the 2011 49ers defense, was going to be as good as it was. They had no reason to think that. They drafted a player in the first round NO ONE WANTED, nor expected in Aldon Smith, Jim Harbaugh was putting his faith in Alex Smith, and the defense was made up of other teams cast offs in Donte Whitner, and Carlos Rogers, and a another safety who had a horrible year in 2010.

They let Franklin go, who was a stud at nose tackle and deemed IRREPLACEABLE by Patrick Willis, replaced him with a career back up in Isaac Sopoga, they resigned Ray McDonald another career back up to a MONSTER contract, and had a second year unknown starting at the second middle line backer in Navarro Bowman. No one expected the 49ers d to be that good. Most 49ers fans figured with the way things we were going, we were tanking for Luck........

Clay doesn't know shit. Just what PFF tells him to think.

WHO GIVES A SHIT?

Your defense raped faces and Alex Smith won 2-3 games he shouldn't have because of it.

God you're obtuse.

That can probably be said about most QBs most seasons. It is a TEAM sport after all.

I DON'T CARE.

ALEX SMITH IS OUR QB

AND HE ISN'T BRINGING THAT DEFENSE WITH HIM

Im gonna regret this, because the answer is going to be some kind of reeruned mama's boy childish response.

How, do you know, with the examples I gave, that the Chiefs defense cant be what the 49ers defense was. I was told on THIS board, that the Chiefs may have the best set of linebackers in the league.

If you get improved D line play, which you most assuredly will, with the addition of DeVito, the second year for Poe, and if you can have anyone at the other end, who can just take up blockers, and your secondary cant be any worse than it was last year, and with an emphasis, on RUSHING the passer, that is going to help your secondary. Then you factor in, just what Alex Smith does, that your qbs last year DIDNT do, ie take care of the ball, how can you say that the Chiefs defense can not be top 5 in the league.

Ill wait. You have NOTHING to counter the facts I just presented. NONE.

37 turnovers by your qbs last year, screwed your defense. Debate that please.

That in no way is refutation of my point.

Oh, and again, who won the Chiefs Packers game in 2011? The Chiefs right? That's a game that the Packers should of won right? Every dog has their day. You really do make your self look foolish and ignorant.....

he doesn't have one. awesome avi by the way.

He has a crystal ball that his mommy bought from the dollar store. That's where he is getting his facts.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE GAME

I'M TALKING ABOUT AN ENTIRE CAREER OF SHIT SUCKING MONGOLOID PASSING FROM ALEX D. SMITH

COME ON

Thanks, just changed it earlier. It was time for a new representation of the "steel skull" persona. And I love me some Justified. :)

Clay has a shtick. He has to be as contrary as possible most of the time in order to draw attention to himself. He is very needy in the attention department. I typically ignore him so as not to further fuel the fire. But every so often when I'm bored, what the hell.....

The conservative coaching isn't coming with him either.

Like I said. You completely ignored what I said about the defense, and the comparisons, and the legit reasonings, and went a completely different direction. There was nothing shit about Alex Smith as a qb last year. Nothing. His numbers were fine. They played to the strengths of the team,

70 percent completion percentage, second highest YPC in the league, with only Kaepernick beating him in that category. He was on pace for about 26 tds, and 10 picks. There was nothing shitty about his numbers last year.

Stop being so dramatic.