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TripleThreat 01-09-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10358201)
I'm doing neither. Just pointing out the stats.

If you want to claim that his 2012 performance is "good", by all means, do so. You're just showing your bias.

It's average at best, and anyone who watches professional football realizes that. It looks better than it actually is because he was so ****ing shitty his first 5 years.

To look at those numbers and state he's absolutely going to get better, just because Urban Meyer says so?

Mind-numbingly stupid.


Ok, you want to get rid of alex? Lets look at some things... What teams are wanting to find a franchise QB in the NFL? Ill be generous on my selections..

Minnesota
Cleveland
Houston
Jacksonville
Tennesse
Tampa bay
Oakland
St. louis Rams

The above teams are teams that have made it clear they want a QB.. This list doesnt even add in the teams where the QB's are perhaps on there way out or on a hott seat.

Dallas
Cincinatti
Washington
New York Jets
Pittsburgh Steelers

Thats 13 teams in the NFL that are either looking for a QB or there QB is being scrutinized and on the hot seat much like where u are trying to put alex. So lets throw alex away and let one of these teams pick him up.. Now we are in the hunt with all of these other teams in search of a franchise QB, And you want to do this after Alex and company just led us to a 11-6 season after finishing LAST PLACE in the league last year and a playoff appearance... Not to mention alex shined more than any QB in the playoffs last week?? Not many teams have ever accomplished what we did this year in history, and its seeming to me that you do not know that, or just decide to ignore it.

Or try to Say alex cant get it done in the playoffs? Hes played in only 3 playoffs games, 1-2 record 900 yards 9 TD's 0 Int's.. The dude is clutch.. The reason he didnt put up big #'s in SF is obvious... look at the "STATS" you talk so much about, he was in the bottom 5 of passes attempted.. How do u expect alex to throw for 5,000 yards like drew brees when hes throwing 200 less passes a season? (Drew brees threw over 630 passes in 11 or 12 forget which, and alex threw what was it... 440?? Get over yourself.

mind numbingly stupid . ROFL

O.city 01-09-2014 05:18 PM

Clutch.

What a dumb thought process.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 10358257)
Ok, you want to get rid of alex?

I'm not even going to bother reading the rest of your post, because you obviously haven't read ANY of mine.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10355922)
And that's the million dollar question - can he do it consistently? So far, he's only shown it in spurts.

Someone else we know threw for 27/7 once.

Personally, as long as his deal doesn't restrict us from legitimately filling holes, or doesn't marry us to him for more than 2-3 years - I don't care what they give him.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10355962)
That's exactly what I'm hoping for, I'm just not sure how they can do it and fill the holes they have. We're up against the cap.

I suggested 5/75 the other day as long as we can get out of it cheaply after the 2nd or 3rd year if necessary.


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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10358058)
Let me preface this by saying I'd be OK with giving him something around 5/75 provided it allows us to get away from him in 2 years if necessary, and it doesn't restrict us from filling all the holes we have.

With that said - I would have liked to have seen his level of play from the Indy game be the rule, not the exception before locking him up long term.

On Saturday, he showed he can perform at that level - I'm wondering why he hasn't shown he can do it consistently.

Reading is fundamental.

TripleThreat 01-09-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10358260)
I'm not even going to bother reading the rest of your post, because you obviously haven't read ANY of mine.








Reading is fundamental.

Im reading what your implying.. dont imply and you wont be accused.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2014 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 10358261)
Im reading what your implying.. dont imply and you wont be accused.

Are you full-blown reeruned, or just borderline reeruned?

I'm not implying anything. I pointed out how ridiculous I think it is to give that Urban Meyer quote any weight, and your dumb ass turned that into not wanting your gloryhole partner - even though I've said on THREE occasions in THIS THREAD ALONE that's I'd give him 5/75 under certain circumstances.

It's not my fault you either can't read, or choose not to - and can't distinguish between two completely different arguments.

Try rubbing the three brain cells you have together before posting to avoid this happening again.

TheUte 01-09-2014 05:43 PM

So what grade does Axel get for saturday and the season?

cdcox 01-09-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10358073)
Cheaper to franchise someone else..you do not want the $ associated with that designation on a QB. You also don't want to use the non-exclusive tag because a team with more money and a worse QB will come and snag him.

And yes, I think there are teams out there that would pay 2 1st round picks for Alex now.

ROFL:homer: :shake:

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10358280)
So what grade does Axel get for saturday and the season?

I'd give him an A- for Saturday. The fumble and clock management hurts him, but he played extremely well otherwise.

Rest of season? Hard to decide between a C+ and a B-.

Can't ignore the first nine games where he played average at best, and was carried by a historic defensive and special teams performance.

I'm gonna go with B-.

He showed he's capable of being an A-/B+ type of QB, but he's got to do it more than once or twice a year.

007 01-09-2014 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10357524)
What total and complete BULLSHIT, every play counts every time.

If Alex had thrown one INT you would have been the first one " See see he sucks ".

At least have a little integrity, the Defense sucked balls, complete failure on their part there is no debate.

Teams win and Teams lose, it takes every player.

That is the point they are trying to make.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-09-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10358293)
I'd give him an A- for Saturday. The fumble and clock management hurts him, but he played extremely well otherwise.

Rest of season? Hard to decide between a C+ and a B-.

Can't ignore the first nine games where he played average at best, and was carried by a historic defensive and special teams performance.

I'm gonna go with B-.

He showed he's capable of being an A-/B+ type of QB, but he's got to do it more than once or twice a year.

Can we please stop this Bullcrap about Alex not running down the play clock

After we went up 38-10

Drive one

Play 1 Run
Play 2 Run
Play 3 Pass incomplete

3 plays, 5 yards, 1:34 elapsed. So play 1 and 2 Alex used the whole 40 sec play clock


Drive 2

Play 1 Pass for 4 yards
Play 2 Run no gain
Play 3 Pass incomplete

FG

4 plays, 4 yards, 1:32 elapsed. So play 1 and 2 Alex used the whole 40 sec play clock


Drive 3

Play 1 Pass to Bowe
Play 2 Pass to Dvis
Play 3 Alex Run First down
Play 4 Pass incomplete PENALTY on IND-J.Gordy First down
Play 5 Run
Play 6 Pass incomplete
Play 7 Pass incomplete

Punt

6 plays, 40 yards, 2:44 elapsed All the Plays the clock could move Alex used the whole play clock


Drive 4

Play 1 Pass to Hemingway First Down
Play 2 Run ( Davis hurt clock stopped)
Play 3 Pass incomplete
Play 4 Pass to Bowe First down
Play 5 Run
Play 6 Pass to Fasano Then KC used a Timeout
Play 7 Pass to Jenkins First down Then KC used a Timeout
Play 8 Pass to Dex
Play 9 Pass to Sherman
play 10 Pass to Dex some reason he went ob
Play 11 FG


11 plays, 58 yards, 5:02 elapsed Alex used the whole play clock




Drive 5 Was the Last drive


I know you Alex haters make up facts but he used the whole 40 sec clock. So can we end that dumb shit?

007 01-09-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10357541)
There's your problem. You're looking for one area to blame.

ALL areas are to blame. They ALL made mistakes that played a role in losing a 28 point 3rd quarter lead.

This was my point early on in this thread but nobody wanted to hear it so I stopped wasting my time.

007 01-09-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10357551)
And this is why people get pissy at the AS "defenders".

Blaming the blocking on that play?

I don't care if all 5 OLmen blew their block, Alex has to protect the ball.


Personally, I can live with the fumble and the throw to Gray.

It's the mistake of repeatedly calling for the snap with 10-15 seconds on the play clock in the 2nd half when you're trying to protect a lead that kills me. It's bad football from a guy that is praised for his smarts.

I remember all the Eagles fans coming here and warning us that Andy did shit like this. I was really hoping they were wrong.

BigCatDaddy 01-09-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10358293)
I'd give him an A- for Saturday. The fumble and clock management hurts him, but he played extremely well otherwise.

Rest of season? Hard to decide between a C+ and a B-.

Can't ignore the first nine games where he played average at best, and was carried by a historic defensive and special teams performance.

I'm gonna go with B-.

He showed he's capable of being an A-/B+ type of QB, but he's got to do it more than once or twice a year.

That's about where I am on the season. He had an A+ first half on Saturday, but C in the 2nd half. I can't give better than a B as a whole for that game when you score 6 points on 6 possessions while the other team is storming back.

BigCatDaddy 01-09-2014 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10358307)
This was my point early on in this thread but nobody wanted to hear it so I stopped wasting my time.

Every coach has his worts. If BB became Chiefs coach next year Pats fans would be here bitching about something he wasn't good at.

007 01-09-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10357715)
Holy ****, you're reeruned.

I'm the ONLY person in this thread that isn't blaming a single player or position group.

Dipshit.

No, you are not alone.


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