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New World Order 09-24-2018 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759162)
Yeah, I'm writing off those guys.

The window is WIDE open, right freaking NOW.

If they can't contribute now, find somebody who can. This team has won 1 playoff game in the last 30 years. If it takes mortgaging the future to win a Super Bowl, DO IT.

You guys can sit around and bitch about it in 2019 and 2020 but I won't be here, I'll be enjoying doing something else knowing that the Chiefs finally won it all.
Enough of this 'too risky' bullshit. Let's do this. We have so many talented players on rookie deals.

We need to go for it now.

I'm not saying we should give up an arm and a leg for Thomas, but if we have to overreach a bit, so be it.

Titty Meat 09-24-2018 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759140)
Yeah, because they need more Speaks', KPass', and DOD's.
This argument doesnt make sense. Because 5heyve missed on guys they should quit drafting? Huh?

Mecca 09-24-2018 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13759148)
No ****ing way should we trade a 1st rd pick for player that we barely get for a few games before he’s 30.

Ron Parker ran a 4.35 40 as a prospect and he is already slowing down at 31. Thomas is nearing the end of his prime.

I don’t care what you think of Veach, who we don’t know if he played a big part in drafting Dee Ford/Eric Fisher.

It’s foolish to give up that assett. Give them a 2019 2nd+2020 3rd or something. Not a first rd pick.
40 time means shit for a veteran, Earl Thomas has elite smarts and ball skills, he doesn't need that to make plays. There's a reason Ed Reed was a playmaker until he was nearly 40, it wasn't 40 time.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13759159)
Do we really need more Chris Jones? How about Pat Mahomes, he was a first rounder?
Chris Jones didn't make a full-time impact until the end of his rookie season. You just want to keep pushing the window back and back and back. Screw it, let's just keep on keeping on.

Beer is cold, BBQ is hot, and the stadium is full. No Super Bowl rings needed.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13759174)
This argument doesnt make sense. Because 5heyve missed on guys they should quit drafting? Huh?
Quit drafting? It's ONE pick. ONE.

Even if they gave up their 1st, they'd still have TWO seconds and the entire rest of the draft.

:facepalm:

htismaqe 09-24-2018 01:40 PM
"There's always next year!" /CP

Titty Meat 09-24-2018 01:41 PM
You're going to need to dump Houstons salary to re-sign Hill, Jones, Morse, etc. Unless you're comfortable with Kpass being a full time starter you're going to need some picks to address the pass rush situation.

Chiefnj2 09-24-2018 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13759160)
Veach found Cox, Jackson, and McCoy in that area of the draft and we should just burn it for Thomas because of Speaks?
It's amazing how when Veach worked under other GM's he found All Pro players in just about every draft, but now that his is the actual GM his draft isn't looking good for immediate contribution.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13759183)
You're going to need to dump Houstons salary to re-sign Hill, Jones, Morse, etc. Unless you're comfortable with Kpass being a full time starter you're going to need some picks to address the pass rush situation.
Again, we're not trading an entire freaking draft for Thomas. It's 1, maybe 2, picks.

Titty Meat 09-24-2018 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759179)
Quit drafting? It's ONE pick. ONE.

Even if they gave up their 1st, they'd still have TWO seconds and the entire rest of the draft.

:facepalm:
You arent understanding this at all dude.

THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE STARTING POSITIONS OPEN NEXT YEAR. Any cap money will be used to keep the studs we have. There wont be enough to go out and sign free agent starters. YOU WILL NEED MULTIPLE DRAFT PICKS TO DRAFT STARTERS AND FILL DEPTH.

ChiefaRoo 09-24-2018 01:45 PM
Thomas has elite skills and is a winner.

RunKC 09-24-2018 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13759183)
You're going to need to dump Houstons salary to re-sign Hill, Jones, Morse, etc. Unless you're comfortable with Kpass being a full time starter you're going to need some picks to address the pass rush situation.
Yup.

Trade for Earl Thomas and be forced to get rid of Justin Houston and no first rd pick in a stacked pass rushing draft.

It’ll be fun seeing QB’s destroy Eric Berry and Earl Thomas since they have an hour in the pocket.

O.city 09-24-2018 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759176)
Chris Jones didn't make a full-time impact until the end of his rookie season. You just want to keep pushing the window back and back and back. Screw it, let's just keep on keeping on.

Beer is cold, BBQ is hot, and the stadium is full. No Super Bowl rings needed.
No, I just don't think it's smart to go all in by trading high picks for older players and giving them big contracts.

staylor26 09-24-2018 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13759184)
It's amazing how when Veach worked under other GM's he found All Pro players in just about every draft, but now that his is the actual GM his draft isn't looking good for immediate contribution.
His first draftees are 3 games into their careers. Not to mention he was drafting late and without a 1st round pick.

Some of you have ridiculous expectations.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13759189)
You arent understanding this at all dude.

THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE STARTING POSITIONS OPEN NEXT YEAR. Any cap money will be used to keep the studs we have. There wont be enough to go out and sign free agent starters. YOU WILL NEED MULTIPLE DRAFT PICKS TO DRAFT STARTERS AND FILL DEPTH.
There aren't any studs on the defense. Not one. They're all expendable.

One draft pick isn't going to make one single bit of difference. At all.


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