Body Language sucks for the team right now. They will get it back together when the edge needs to be on. The games they lost were grind type of games with little to no sex appeal to these kids. Backs against the wall...is when cream rises to the top.

I want Kansas to win every game the rest of the year except when it's against Iowa State!

Its b-mac's birthday today. Time to get this teams swagger back

Sorry for your loss reer.

I don't know if it's true or not, but there's a lot of smoke out there. I'm hearing that he and his wife are splitting. Also hearing that he may have some drinking issues as well and that a few major boosters are getting nervous.

I'm not going to throw stones either way. It sounds a lot like Gary Pinkel, to be honest. What I will say is that I can't remember the last time rumors like this surrounded a coach and turned out to be nothing. It seems like there's always fire behind the smoke.

Eddie Sutton
Larry Eustachy
Gary Pinkel
Bobby Petrino

Meh....Brad Steven is on the waiting list. [Rumor]

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AP poll: 10. K-State, 14. Kansas, Mizzou not ranked.

I figured KU would fall to 10 and KSU would be 11

lol

ROFL

I don't recall a single rumor about any of those coaches before something happened (DUI, online pics, crash, etc)

Eustachy was well known....pics and stories of him in Columbia and Manhattan abounded.

Sutton was a known drunk

If true, I blame Elijah.

:)

I figured we'd drop further than that.

I only hear the rumors from known KSU and MU trolls. I'm going to need something more verifiable before I believe anything. If there's a drinking problem, it sure wasn't hurting him this time last year. Also, his wife was at the TCU game.

3 of us here (an MU fan, a KU fan, and myself) read it on Phog, posted by KU fans. :shrug:

I couldn't really care less about Bill's personal life, even if it is affecting his team (which I doubt).

I read the same thing, and it wasn't posted by a KU fan on phog.

Well that confirms everything...

I know, just as reliable as Brad Stevens to KU.

Someone asked, I answered with what I read and where. Never said it was true ...but you can't blame me for starting it or trolling.

Stevens is said that he would move if Indiana, Ohio State, Duke, KU, or North Carolina came knocking. Until then...he will remain at Butler.

Do a little googling...

I met Bill Self at a bar once hes a really nice guy.

The only rumors I heard were about Eustachy. He was always catting around.

And Eddie Sutton has had a drinking problem most of his adult life. He was just one of the good ol boys. He knew how to have a great time. Still wish KSU would have taken the chance on hime after the Kentucky fiasco.

Oh, and for the record, I have neither heard nor read nor do I care anything about Self or his old lady.

Brad Stevens doesn't even think Kansas is one of the top programs in the country

http://www.bruinsnation.com/2012/11/...mart-baskeball

Was that when you were out picking up "cougars?"

His description of Kansas basketball was spot-on though... :shrug:

It's so weird watching you try and flame a program that has prison raped you for decades without relenting.


I suppose I could flame OU football, but it just seems so.....pointless.

I heard Mizzou's basketball coach is the subject of an NCAA probe. But that's just what I'm hearing, take it FWIW

who's? Brad Stevens didn't say jack about Kansas.

I think we're now supposed to mail bags of poop to him, because you know, how dare him... so the KSU fans will in turn be like 'omg, look at how every single KU fan is responding to this'. And sadly enough, there's probably a thread on phog or somewhere that was created the day that post was made, that pretty much goes down that path.

Ok, so he doesn't specifically mention Kansas... :)

I'm not flaming anything. He said Stevens wants to come to KU, I could find no such reference. In fact, when asked who the best programs were, he didn't mention KU at all. that would lead me to believe it's probably not a job he would covet. Try to keep up between chugging sperm shots in the shower...

No way KU loses another at home.

Everyone and their mom knows that KU is one of the top programs in the nation.

Just stop.

Have you figured out yet what makes a "favorite" in the point spread section of the sports page? Last time, you had it exactly backwards.

Everyone chill!

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what on earth are you talking about?

God, this is awful.

That's because when it says "KANSAS STATE" across the jersey you get everbody's best shot. Most notably KU.

It's something we've become accustomed to dealing with.

I think you better pray you don't get our best shot.

In all seriousness we'll know by the under 12 timeout if this will be a decent game. Outside of 05 and maybe 09 these games were over by then.

KU would jump out to a 12 point lead. Cats would cut into it, then they get hit with another run and it was "wait 'till next year/ decade/.

Sweet mother of god.

A++++++++ tonight, and Tharpe goes 7/9 from 3. And of course you'll have to beat the refs, too, so good luck with that.

KSU always gets KU's best shot. You need to pay attention. I just explained it to you.

...that's strange because I couldn't find one article about Bill:

A. Fooling around with a coed.
B. Having a drinking problem.
C. Splitting up with the Mrs.
D. Living in an apartment.

See how that works...?

Try not to storm the court. We'll need the algorithm tonight. You still have that?

ROFL

On the contrary, I enjoyed his use of wordplay

Nothing beats a great rumor.

It just comes with being elite.

Damn it. These are supposed to be in the game thread.

I played little league baseball with that guy in the YouTube video.

It isn't that bad, IMO.

For each team, I inputted conference rank, national rank, win/loss streak, etc; and the damn thing crashed. It's just not made for this kind of situation.

PULLEN FOR 3

It does raise the question why we never seem to get KSU's best.

LMAO We've come a long way.

It's a mystery.

A 100 year mystery!

More like 25 year mystery. The day Roy showed up, that's when the record went completely lopsided.

Total mystery.

I would attribute it to bigger, stronger, faster and generally more skilled players. And better coaches. But other than that, I got nothing.

so are KU fans still cutting themselves?

http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/505841/withey.gif

Well for such an elite program, fan base, coaching staff and team. They sure let KSU fans down last night...

The more I watch Withey do the Superman the more I laugh.

But, I love the emotion.

I wish we could see that from him every game.

I think he would play better if he had that confidence/passion/fire more often.

he has a lot of potential

I think that's what this team lacks. A vocal leader.

Withey needs to be that guy because he is the team's defensive enforcer.

@SethDavisHoops: RT @EvanDanielsFOX: Kentucky, Kansas and North Carolina will get official visits from Andrew Wiggins.

please please please pick ku

And we have Julius Randle coming in for a visit to watch us spank texas.

I would love this.

But, I am not holding my breath.

Wiggins probably ends up at Kentucky like all the other superstar prospects over the years since Cal went there. Although seeing McLemore be the possible #1 pick this year can't be hurting KU's chances.

Can't wait until the locust goes away again.

WET BLANKET! :p

Tilton's Wayne Selden (Kansas signee) makes case for prime time at 2013 Hoophall Classic

By Jay King, MassLive.com
on January 20, 2013 at 12:30 PM, updated January 20, 2013 at 2:31 PM

SPRINGFIELD -- No longer in prime time at the Hoophall Classic, Kansas signee Wayne Selden (ESPN's No. 16 boys senior) nonetheless showed why he's one of the nation's elite high school basketball players Sunday as he helped Tilton down Vermont Academy, 71-67, at Springfield College.

After notching 24 points and seven rebounds, Selden noted that Tilton, which lost Kentucky freshman Nerlens Noel to graduation after last season, had been downgraded in status by the tournament's directors.

"We got the Sunday morning game now, we're not prime time anymore, so we have to work for everything we get," said the star.

But that doesn't mean he misses everything about Tilton's previous campaign.

"We have more heart this year. We're more of a fighting team this year," he said. "We have to earn everything we get, nothing's handed to us."

Quite clearly the most talented player on the floor, Selden was nonetheless unselfish. Early in the first half, he could have forced a shot in the paint, but decided to kick out to an open teammate for a 3-pointer. On the ensuing possession, he dribbled in transition to the foul line, looked to his right and fired a bullet bounce pass to his left, where a teammate was waiting underneath the basket for an easy lay-in.

Concerning his mentality toward scoring, Selden was more LeBron James than Kobe Bryant. (Note: By no means should you consider that a comparison between Selden and the greatest basketball player on earth.) The Tilton star only had one assist, but he facilitated ball movement all game and could have easily picked up more dimes if his teammates had hit open shots.

His team-first mentality should bode well at Kansas next season, and it didn't keep him from scoring 17 of his 24 points in the second half Sunday. He rarely forced shots, making 10 of 18 field goal attempts, but still showed an ability to score when his team needed it most. Vermont Academy put together a late surge, but Selden ended any hopes of a comeback with a baseline drive that he finished with a reverse layup with less than a minute left.

The 6-foot-5, 220-pound, Selden, who prides himself on "being able to operate with the ball, being able to penetrate and find the open man," looks like he developed an addiction to protein shakes many years ago, and used his phenomenal strength Sunday to his advantage in the mid-post. However, at least on this day, his shot of choice after catching in the post was a fadeaway jump shot. Despite the effectiveness of his turnaround, he likely would have been better served taking his 6-foot-1 defender closer to the basket.

When Selden did drive to the hoop, defenders bounced off him. After one particularly strong drive on which the guard drew a foul, the Vermont Academy coach screamed for his player to take a charge. I almost expected the player to shout back, "Coach, I'd rather survive."

Defensively, Selden wasn't always attentive, but showed a willingness to work. He took one charge and attempted to take at least one other. Tilton showed a lot of zone and Selden often played closer to the basket, so he wasn't used in nearly the same capacity in which coach Bill Self will ask him to operate at Kansas.

Asked why he chose the Jayhawks, Selden replied, "I felt like it was the best place for me as a player, as a person, socially. It was just a really good family environment. I feel like I can go there, help the team out."

I prefer realistic. Also if you never get your hopes up, you never get disappointed. I've learned this.

We don't need wiggins as good as he is, compared to a Randle. We have no post offense next year. Perry is such a disappoinent and he's a given to start.

This doesnt surprise me... Consider KSUck fans post in here...

Observations

<HR>1) We are still in first. Yes we are tied, but still in first.

2) It was obvious Gipson was targeted to get limited minutes by the bias refs on the most ridiculous manufactured fouls I've ever seen. Just like I talked about before the game. How in the world do you think Bill was going to get his points in the paint? Keep the Big Gip on the bench. That 5th foul was more of a foul on Withey, but hey the refs had to stick to the script.

3) KU shoots out of their arse. Go figure. They royally suck their last 3 games, but of course this game was a make or break of their season.

4) We missed a lot of shots, including FT's. You can't do that if you expect to win this game. Even when our players were fouled on made baskets at the rim the refs blew off calling any foul. I saw that happen at least twice.

5) JO is STILL all thumbs & can't handle a pass. He has no business putting the ball on the floor to dribble, guaranteed TO. Withey ran circles around him.

6) As discussed earlier our bigs have to protect the basket, or expect lots of pud layups & slam dunks.

7) Our protection of the KU transition game sucked. Another thing I discussed before pre-game.

8) Our defense has bad tonight. Anytime we'd get a TO on KU we'd simply turn it right back over trying to get our own transition basket. Too much panic & it wasn't necessary & it limited our opportunities to put up more points.

8) KU kept all their starters in the entire game with the objective of the birthday boy getting his 30 points, so Brett Mushmouth could tell us for the 10th time that's what the Jayhawks wanted to do. KU would have beat us by 10-20 more points if Bill had his way. Under these conditions I'm not surprised of the outcome, but I thought it would have been closer if Gip could have played more.

9) Our kids didn't give up, so I admire the effort.

10) We'll be fine. Up next, Baylor & West Virginia on our turf. KU will slip up on the road somewhere, so we still control our own destiny & still can at least share the conference, or even win it.
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Awww their kids didnt give up... thats cute

not sure what your issue is with #1 on that list rerun, it's a factual statement.

I mean, KU claims Championships in 2005, 2006, and 2008 even though they tied Oklahoma and Texas(x2) don't they?

number 2 was the biggest laugher out of that....

No, you are incorrect. Those schools got KU for a home Game they won, without having to return to play in Allen. So the league awarded a split due to unbalanced scheduling. This situation no longer occurs.


Hope that helps.

while I don't think it rises to a conspriacy, at least 3 of the fouls on Gipson were crap calls, including the 5th.