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Hammock Parties 11-08-2013 02:25 PM

cassel should sue for plagiarism

Marcellus 11-08-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10170153)
cassel should sue for plagiarism

Epic irony.

Mav 11-08-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10169159)
Can't lead from the back bro.

Not true. Generals have been leading from the back for years.

duncan_idaho 11-08-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10170148)
.On not being a “game manager,” playing cautiously to avoid turnovers

Smith: That’s definitely not the mindset you want. If you play in that mindset, then you aren’t going to be successful. There’s certainly a sweet spot there where you’re going out and playing football, but what you’ve been coached to do and what you’ve been taught to do in your fundamentals is take care of protecting the football. Don’t get me wrong, there have been some times when I’ve gone out there [with the game manager mentality]—and it’s never been good. You don’t ever want to go out there saying that. You don’t ever want to go out there just saying you’re not going to turn the football over. You’re out there to execute an offense. People can look at it however they want, but for me the goal is to score points as an offense. You can put up however many freakin’ yards you want. The goal is to score points. And with that, yeah, protect the football. I watch a lot of football, and not just the NFL, and you see teams just giving it away. It’s hard enough to win football games when you’re not giving it away. For us, it’s not about being conservative. We’re trying to score points. Can we do a better job of that? No question.

So he doesn't go out there with a game manager mentality. He goes out trying to execute the offense and score points. That's all well and good.

But from his play on the field - and even his comments about avoiding turnovers - it's clear his conception of executing the offense is hugely influenced by avoiding turnovers and risk.

Mav 11-08-2013 02:36 PM

It must be Chiefs homerism and Red and Gold Colored Chiefs glasses that lead some Chiefs fans to think that the talent on offense is anything beyond Average.

Put behind that, an average at best oline, with a average to slightly over average qb, ad Voila! Crap salad.

But no no. Please, lets all focus on just ONE position.

LOL.

keg in kc 11-08-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10170181)
It must be Chiefs homerism and Red and Gold Colored Chiefs glasses that lead some Chiefs fans to think that the talent on offense is anything beyond Average.

Put behind that, an average at best oline, with a average to slightly over average qb, ad Voila! Crap salad.

But no no. Please, lets all focus on just ONE position.

LOL.

Let's say the talent on offense is average. The performance has been well below that in the passing game.

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the quarterback, though. It must be everyone else on the field. All colluding together. And the coaches are in on it, too.

Brock 11-08-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 10169983)
Hardy har har. If anything, it's a Ferrari.

You mean because it's broke half the time? Hate to break the news, but nobody is impressed with the 49er offense.

Bearcat 11-08-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10170287)
Let's say the talent on offense is average. The performance has been well below that in the passing game.

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the quarterback, though. It must be everyone else on the field. All colluding together. And the coaches are in on it, too.

FACT: Give Alex Smith a great running back, a couple of good receivers, a great tight end, great offensive line, elite defense, and good special teams unit, good coaching, and a good game plan, and he's an extremely effective quarterback.

TheUte 11-08-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10170341)
FACT: Give Alex Smith a great running back, a couple of good receivers, a great tight end, great offensive line, elite defense, and good special teams unit, good coaching, and a good game plan, and he's an extremely effective quarterback.

What QB's do you know that do it alone. Pretty sure Aaron Rogers has pretty damn good receiving core and Ms. Manning's isn't bad either.

Easy 6 11-08-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10170365)
What QB's do you know that do it alone. Pretty sure Aaron Rogers has pretty damn good receiving core and Ms. Manning's isn't bad either.

Forget it with that guy, all QB's have to be a superhuman capable of overcoming any and all problems singlehandedly, if they're not a top 5 player at the position... they're not worth having.

Now, if we had the rookie who shall go unnamed, he'd breeze us right through the playoffs and into the big game, because, you know... rookies can do that and not waste this great start.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-08-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10170143)
It's rationalization. Makes one feel better to think the offense isn't trying rather than outright failing.

Thank you.

BigMeatballDave 11-08-2013 05:12 PM

Holding back? Doesn't make sense.

So, to this point, the offense has only been giving 80% effort?

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-08-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10170529)
Holding back? Doesn't make sense.

So, to this point, the offense has only been giving 80% effort?

Eye test says about 40% at most.

Bearcat 11-08-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10170365)
What QB's do you know that do it alone. Pretty sure Aaron Rogers has pretty damn good receiving core and Ms. Manning's isn't bad either.

No one ever said anything about doing it alone.


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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10170386)
Forget it with that guy, all QB's have to be a superhuman capable of overcoming any and all problems singlehandedly, if they're not a top 5 player at the position... they're not worth having.

Now, if we had the rookie who shall go unnamed, he'd breeze us right through the playoffs and into the big game, because, you know... rookies can do that and not waste this great start.

Sorry if it's all strawmen in black and white, but no one has ever said anything that's even remotely close to any of that tripe.

Easy 6 11-08-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10170586)
Sorry if it's all strawmen in black and white, but no one has ever said anything that's even remotely close to any of that tripe.

So go ahead and explain the nuance.

Oh yes, ALL of that shit has been said in one way or another 10,000 times here... so does Axl get atleast some benefit of the doubt from you because of the receivers, tight ends, line, new team/scheme or not? Because all i ever see is those factors being swept completely under the rug.

Nothing matters to some of you... plays, drives, the record, none of it... you don't like the guy, never will and wont hear a single argument to the contrary.


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