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SAUTO 12-02-2015 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 11923002)
Rumor from where? Finding absolutely nothing about this anywhere.

Rumors from almost three weeks ago

duncan_idaho 12-02-2015 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11922985)
I'm sure this was mentioned but rumor is we offered Herrera for Jackie Bradley straight up and they're considering it.


If that happens, not a fan.

Bradley is only slightly better than Dyson, and you're giving up a lot for that upgrade.

Other than August, 2015, Bradley has also hit at a Dyson level.

mr. tegu 12-02-2015 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11923215)
If that happens, not a fan.

Bradley is only slightly better than Dyson, and you're giving up a lot for that upgrade.

Other than August, 2015, Bradley has also hit at a Dyson level.

That's not going to happen so we don't need to worry about it. Moore obviously knows how important our bullpen is and Herrera is immensely important to it and you can't simply replace his production. It would be arrogant to think he could effectively replace him and I don't see that from Moore.

tk13 12-02-2015 09:26 PM

I wouldn't expect that trade either, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dayton moved bullpen pieces around. Obviously the game has changed but the Braves always changed the bullpen from year to year... and to some extent Dayton has done the same thing in KC quite well. Relievers are so up and down from year to year.

Al Bundy 12-02-2015 10:23 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="it" dir="ltr">Pirates Non-Tender Pedro Alvarez <a href="https://t.co/VM3FQNP1Ht">https://t.co/VM3FQNP1Ht</a> <a href="https://t.co/c6ne7jN7xx">pic.twitter.com/c6ne7jN7xx</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/672269478206525440">December 3, 2015</a></blockquote>
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nychief 12-02-2015 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 11923485)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="it" dir="ltr">Pirates Non-Tender Pedro Alvarez <a href="https://t.co/VM3FQNP1Ht">https://t.co/VM3FQNP1Ht</a> <a href="https://t.co/c6ne7jN7xx">pic.twitter.com/c6ne7jN7xx</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/672269478206525440">December 3, 2015</a></blockquote>
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We have a switch hitting Pedro alvarez...named kendrys morales.

Why Not? 12-02-2015 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 11923521)
We have a switch hitting Pedro alvarez...named kendrys morales.

Except our Alvarez can hit for a decent average and drive in runs outside of extra BH only.

duncan_idaho 12-03-2015 08:14 AM

Henderson Alvarez being non tendered by the Marlins is much more interesting to me.

Would look great, potentially, on a Medlen-like deal. He might not be available until May or June after having shoulder surgery in July 2015, but he has two arb years left.

So... You sign him to a cheaper deal this year with an option for 2017 (wit guaranteed cash) might tip the balance

It's a gamble, but $4 million this year and 6 million next might be enough to get him to sign with you. And considering the price of mid-rotation starters, that could be a real bargain.

nychief 12-03-2015 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11923892)
Henderson Alvarez being non tendered by the Marlins is much more interesting to me.

Would look great, potentially, on a Medlen-like deal. He might not be available until May or June after having shoulder surgery in July 2015, but he has two arb years left.

So... You sign him to a cheaper deal this year with an option for 2017 (wit guaranteed cash) might tip the balance

It's a gamble, but $4 million this year and 6 million next might be enough to get him to sign with you. And considering the price of mid-rotation starters, that could be a real bargain.

Yeah I thought the same thing. Seeing the price of pitching it has become more obvious how important it is that we see almonte/Zimmer take that next step...and get consistency out of Duffy.

Nightfyre 12-03-2015 09:02 AM

What do Alvarez's medicals look like? There may be something more going on there. Otherwise, Loria is just a moron.

duncan_idaho 12-03-2015 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 11923963)
What do Alvarez's medicals look like? There may be something more going on there. Otherwise, Loria is just a moron.

He's recovering from shoulder surgery last July. Expected to be available in May or June this year.

His recovery may be going worse than eexpected, prompting the nontender. Or the Marlins may be cheap and not willing to pay a guy $4million for this year when he will miss 1/3 to 1/2 of the major league season.

siberian khatru 12-03-2015 10:44 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Padres continue to try to push James Shields in the trade market. Owed $63 million over the next three seasons.</p>&mdash; Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/672456042123550720">December 3, 2015</a></blockquote>
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RealSNR 12-03-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 11924157)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Padres continue to try to push James Shields in the trade market. Owed $63 million over the next three seasons.</p>&mdash; Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/672456042123550720">December 3, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Makes the Infante contract we're stuck with look like cinnamon buns and rainbows

Sure-Oz 12-03-2015 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 11924157)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Padres continue to try to push James Shields in the trade market. Owed $63 million over the next three seasons.</p>— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/672456042123550720">December 3, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Can'the opt out after 2016

Saul Good 12-03-2015 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11924175)
Can'the opt out after 2016

Why would he?


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