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Chiefnj2 09-24-2018 01:47 PM

Earl Thomas for a 2nd round pick isn't really a big deal, especially since KC has two picks. The bigger issue to me is that Thomas is going to want to be the highest paid safety. KC has a lot of holes to fill on D. Is that money better spent trying to fill 2 or 3 other positions? Tying up 25+ mil on safeties next year?

I'm not mad if they make the deal, it'll make this year a little more interesting and the inevitable playoff collapse all that more painful. Because Chiefs.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13759194)
No, I just don't think it's smart to go all in by trading high picks for older players and giving them big contracts.

It's one, or at most 2, picks.

You act like there won't be a draft if they trade for Thomas.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13759189)
You arent understanding this at all dude.

THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE STARTING POSITIONS OPEN NEXT YEAR. Any cap money will be used to keep the studs we have. There wont be enough to go out and sign free agent starters. YOU WILL NEED MULTIPLE DRAFT PICKS TO DRAFT STARTERS AND FILL DEPTH.

If one high pick and like a 4th rounder is the difference between filling all the holes and not, Veach is a freaking moron and this franchise is DOOMED. Seriously.

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13759197)
His first draftees are 3 games into their careers. Not to mention he was drafting late and without a 1st round pick.

Some of you have ridiculous expectations.

He deserves criticism for using his highest pick on a DE to OLB conversion project. Still doesn't mean I'd be eager to give our 1st to Seattle for Thomas, unless we can agree to a deal that isn't ridiculous first.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13759199)
Earl Thomas for a 2nd round pick isn't really a big deal, especially since KC has two picks. The bigger issue to me is that Thomas is going to want to be the highest paid safety. KC has a lot of holes to fill on D. Is that money better spent trying to fill 2 or 3 other positions? Tying up 25+ mil on safeties next year?

I'm not mad if they make the deal, it'll make this year a little more interesting and the inevitable playoff collapse all that more painful. Because Chiefs.

Dude, there is no real money in the NFL. It's all soft.

If the Chiefs want Earl Thomas, they'll find a way to pay him. That's what good teams do. It's not an excuse.

srvy 09-24-2018 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13758675)
Love to buy into the old "job creator" line while billionaires sit around and make ungodly amounts of money on the backs of the people doing the actual work

Well im fairly certain of one thing you will never ever get to know how much a billionaire gets to sit around making billions. But as much as you post I would say you have a lot of free time on your hands. Maybe you are Clark Hunt.

Titty Meat 09-24-2018 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759198)
There aren't any studs on the defense. Not one. They're all expendable.

One draft pick isn't going to make one single bit of difference. At all.

Chris Jones and Fuller are absolutely valuable.

RunKC 09-24-2018 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759201)
It's one, or at most 2, picks.

You act like there won't be a draft if they trade for Thomas.

Then offer both 2019 2nd rd picks instead of a 1st. If they won’t take that then **** them.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13759209)
Chris Jones and Fuller are absolutely valuable.

But neither of them are irreplaceable. There's a difference.

carcosa 09-24-2018 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13759208)
Well im fairly certain of one thing you will never ever get to know how much a billionaire gets to sit around making billions. But as much as you post I would say you have a lot of free time on your hands. Maybe you a Clark Hunt.

Huh

O.city 09-24-2018 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759201)
It's one, or at most 2, picks.

You act like there won't be a draft if they trade for Thomas.

No, I'm not.

It's 4 or 5 years of a cost controlled young player vs 3 or 4 years of a high priced vet. If Thomas stays healthy and plays up to max potential, sure that's great.

I'm skeptical it would happen and you're losing value there. In the end, it depends what they have to give up. If it's the Rams 2nd rounder, fine. I don't care for it, but I can stomach it.

If it's a 1? No thanks.

Red Dawg 09-24-2018 01:51 PM

Giving a second for a safety that doesn't want to play here and wants big money will not happen . He wants to play for Dallas and we already have a massively over paid safety that sure as hell isn't taking a pay cut to help keep Thomas if we did get him. We don't have the money and Hill needs his at the end of the year.

Imon Yourside 09-24-2018 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13759206)
He deserves criticism for using his highest pick on a DE to OLB conversion project. Still doesn't mean I'd be eager to give our 1st to Seattle for Thomas, unless we can agree to a deal that isn't ridiculous first.

I wouldn't give up a 1st either, but the Rams 2nd plus another later round pick yes. Think of how much better the Defense is with Berry in the lineup he tends to be a field general out there.

O.city 09-24-2018 01:53 PM

If Seattle is asking for that many picks, he isn't getting traded. No one is trading higher than a 3, maybe a 2 (doubt it).

He's 29 and he needs a new contract.

Chiefnj2 09-24-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13759219)
If Seattle is asking for that many picks, he isn't getting traded. No one is trading higher than a 3, maybe a 2 (doubt it).

He's 29 and he needs a new contract.

It was reported they already rejected Dallas' 2nd round pick.


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