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htismaqe 02-13-2025 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17967440)
I don't understand the decision to not run the ball before the game even started. It's like KC planned a one dimensional attack and were out of ammo when it didn't work.

They weren't going to have any success against that front. Our running game is putrid.

nychief 02-13-2025 11:01 AM

Fix the tackle spot, whatever it takes.


I also not sure Heck sticks around forever.

O.city 02-13-2025 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17967419)
Bc the talent has been ****ing terrible the last 2 years. Again…

Justin Watson WR1 by snap count, 5 LT’s, shit running game. Least explosive RB room in the league this year.

Yeah I don’t want to hear the talent excuse. It’s the reason Patrick is getting mentally ****ed up

If he needs 5 good/great OL to not freak out in the pocket, we need to have some discussions.

FloridaMan88 02-13-2025 11:06 AM

Tim Grunhard was on Petro’s show calling for Andy Heck to be fired.

Sassy Squatch 02-13-2025 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17967468)
Fix the tackle spot, whatever it takes.


I also not sure Heck sticks around forever.

It seems like OL development has fallen off a cliff recently for us. Once upon a time they'd churn out at the very least competent players from the late round and UDFA pool. Fulton, LDT, Reiter, Wylie, Allegretti. Not guys you'd necessarily build around but you could plug them in and play and your offense wouldn't tank.

O.city 02-13-2025 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17967380)
They're not mutually exclusive. You can point the finger and criticize Pat all you want, and a lot of it is warranted, but also acknowledge that putting a revolving door of 4 different LTs in front of him has significantly affected him.

Sure.

LT's are like DE's. There's alot of bluster about "well this guy was a 3rd rounder" but most of them come from the early rounds in the draft.

It's why I don't really get on board with the "don't trade up" crowd. If they want an elite one, that's where they come from.

I don't think you need an elite one, and good solid ones can be easier had.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-13-2025 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17967474)
Tim Grunhard was on Petro’s show calling for Andy Heck to be fired.

That’s never going to happen.

We’ve won 3 Super Bowl’s with the guy. He’s not perfect but sure is an overreaction IMO.

Blame Andy for running a scheme still that basically asks his Tackles to play like Pro Bowlers.

O.city 02-13-2025 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17967475)
It seems like OL development has fallen off a cliff recently for us. Once upon a time they'd churn out at the very least competent players from the late round and UDFA pool. Fulton, LDT, Reiter, Wylie, Allegretti. Not guys you'd necessarily build around but you could plug them in and play and your offense wouldn't tank.

Like kicking your LG to LT, plugging in a journey man LG and making it to the SB?

Or their 5th round pick RG about to become one of the highest paid OL in history?

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17967401)
A summary of some our FA options at LT...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> will probably look to fix their left tackle woes during free agency.<br><br>Here is a look at some of the options set to be available… �� <a href="https://t.co/VK2hThQ67r">pic.twitter.com/VK2hThQ67r</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1890033505289269420?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



I know it’s pff but Jedrick wills pass blocking grade not so bad.

O.city 02-13-2025 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17967487)
I know it’s pff but Jedrick wills pass blocking grade not so bad.

Honestly......He's kinda the route I'd like to go.

Pay him beans, coach him up.

htismaqe 02-13-2025 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17967478)
Sure.

LT's are like DE's. There's alot of bluster about "well this guy was a 3rd rounder" but most of them come from the early rounds in the draft.

It's why I don't really get on board with the "don't trade up" crowd. If they want an elite one, that's where they come from.

I don't think you need an elite one, and good solid ones can be easier had.

It's not as simple as "don't trade up". If we had a down season and we're picking 19th, by all means, trade up.

We are picking 31st. It would take a boatload of picks to go get "that guy" more than we gave up to get Mahomes. That's just not a luxury a team in this position can afford.

O.city 02-13-2025 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967491)
It's not as simple as "don't trade up". If we had a down season and we're picking 19th, by all means, trade up.

We are picking 31st. It would take a boatload of picks to go get "that guy" more than we gave up to get Mahomes. That's just not a luxury a team in this position can afford.

I don't think I'd do it, but if they think they can get a guy that can be a long term elite guy....whatever.

They've shown they can fill in the roster with lower rounders at some of these other spots.

htismaqe 02-13-2025 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17967494)
I don't think I'd do it, but if they think they can get a guy that can be a long term elite guy....whatever.

They've shown they can fill in the roster with lower rounders at some of these other spots.

The building blocks of this team - Mahomes, Worthy, Rice, Humphrey, Jones, McDuffie, Bolton - all first or 2nd round picks.

We simply aren't in a position to go get a top tier LT in the draft. It's gonna take missing the playoffs for that to happen.

Mecca 02-13-2025 11:20 AM

Wills issue is he's hurt all the time.

Also lets take something into account, heard this on the lab with kcsn, and it's totally true. A big issue with the Chiefs OTs isn't just that they aren't in great position to get them, it's what they ask of them.

Asking guys to vertical set constantly, having a more condensed pocket, but you also have to protect deep because Mahomes will deep drop at times, what the Chiefs ask their OT's to do is one of the most difficult jobs in the NFL, other teams don't ask for the degree of difficulty the Chiefs do, and they're doing it without top end talent.

O.city 02-13-2025 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17967513)
Wills issue is he's hurt all the time.

Also lets take something into account, heard this on the lab with kcsn, and it's totally true. A big issue with the Chiefs OTs isn't just that they aren't in great position to get them, it's what they ask of them.

Asking guys to vertical set constantly, having a more condensed pocket, but you also have to protect deep because Mahomes will deep drop at times, what the Chiefs ask their OT's to do is one of the most difficult jobs in the NFL, other teams don't ask for the degree of difficulty the Chiefs do, and they're doing it without top end talent.

The QB playing the way he does makes the OL look alot worse, but we can't talk about that.


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