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Sweet Daddy Hate 07-21-2013 09:47 PM
Hopefully he'll have to win a playoff game in order to get an extension. That's fair.

-King- 07-21-2013 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9826279)
This team has no defensive line and a very shaky secondary.
LMAO
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Sweet Daddy Hate 07-21-2013 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9826311)
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Outside of Flowers and Berry, who are our Secondary Superstars again?

Sorter 07-21-2013 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9826253)
No, he's not, but he's getting a defense with four Pro Bowlers from the previous year on it along with a defensive line featuring two top ten first rounders in Poe and Jackson (okay, Poe was #11) with an upgrade with DeVito, the best linebacking corps in the AFC (and possibly the NFL if Nico Johnson is better sooner rather than later) and one of the best secondaries in the league.

In all honesty, there is no reason to believe that this defense can't be as good as the 49'ers from the past two seasons.

You're really letting this Alex Smith thing get to you C.E.

And, to be honest, the guy really is a pretty damn good fit for what Reid runs along with Charles and Bowe.

I really don't know why you're flipping out about this at this point.
I don't consider DeVito an upgrade. Lateral move, yes.

I'd take Pitts, NEs, and Texans LBs over ours (I'm also including Nikovich as a 3-4 OLB). I'm also using the imaginary premise that they're all healthy.

tredadda 07-21-2013 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 9826307)
Because this franchise has not gone full reerun, yet...

Although the draft pick(s) was a particular difficult pill to swallow.

I'm extrapolating but I don't think Reid would have paid that price if he didn't think Smith gave him a shot at a SB.
Then they don't think he is a SB caliber QB and maybe, just maybe they think he is the best available at this time. It is not exactly like franchise QBs hit the market all the time and it was clear that the QB class in this last draft was anything but special. So I guess we can just get off the ledge and wait and see what happens.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-21-2013 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9826313)
Outside of Flowers and Berry, who are our Secondary Superstars again?
The Muslim guy has potential, but ****a? Meh.

Sorter 07-21-2013 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9826319)
Then they don't think he is a SB caliber QB and maybe, just maybe they think he is the best available at this time. It is not exactly like franchise QBs hit the market all the time and it was clear that the QB class in this last draft was anything but special. So I guess we can just get off the ledge and wait and see what happens.
Speculation until proven otherwise.

You could use the statement : "It was clear that nearly every team didn't think there was a QB worth drafting in the first round" but to say that the QB class was anything but special is an opinion and shouldn't be stated until they have a chance to play.

Give them a chance before you make your opinions, okay?

MeatRock 07-21-2013 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9826317)
I don't consider DeVito an upgrade. Lateral move, yes.

I'd take Pitts, NEs, and Texans LBs over ours (I'm also including Nikovich as a 3-4 OLB). I'm also using the imaginary premise that they're all healthy.
You would take Hightower, Mayo, Ninkovich and Spikes over Hali, Houston, DJ and whoever starts in Belchers spot? I could see the reasoning behind this only because of the question mark at ILB.

DaneMcCloud 07-21-2013 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9826317)
I don't consider DeVito an upgrade. Lateral move, yes.
According to all reports, the biggest difference between DeVito and Dorsey is leadership. Supposedly (and I can only go on what I've been told and read), DeVito is a very vocal leader in the lockerroom, especially amongst the defensive lineman.

If true, he could prove to be more valuable, especially in crunch time, than Glenn Dorsey.

GordonGekko 07-21-2013 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9826319)
Then they don't think he is a SB caliber QB and maybe, just maybe they think he is the best available at this time. It is not exactly like franchise QBs hit the market all the time and it was clear that the QB class in this last draft was anything but special. So I guess we can just get off the ledge and wait and see what happens.
Again, I really could care less about one draft, or one player. I just think this mediocre, me too bullshit that is Chiefs football that keeps perpetuating itself needs to stop. The last time I was really excited about a Chiefs season was in the Vermeil days when I felt like the team was trying to innovate and do things that were special. I'm not on a ledge, I'm fully prepared for a very sub-par year, even to Chief standards, and can't wait for us to draft another d-lineman with what is sure to be a top 10 pick. Not even thinking about QB because we have, gasps, Alex F'n Smith y'all...

Saccopoo 07-21-2013 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 9826307)
Because this franchise has not gone full reerun, yet...

Although the draft pick(s) was a particularly difficult pill to swallow.

I'm extrapolating but I don't think Reid would have paid that price if he didn't think Smith gave him a shot at a SB.
Second rounders aren't the franchise saving picks that a lot of people around here are making them out to be.

And for those guys wanting a QB in the draft, they actually did sign Bray as a UDFA - a guy who a lot of guys here would have happily have pulled the trigger on in that second round.

A second round pick on an unproven college player, or a second round pick on a quarterback who was top three in the NFL in QB rating, completion percentage and YPA who is also six months younger than Aaron Rogers? A guy that graduated from college in two years with a degree in economics (3.74 gpa) along with a 4.7 40 and a 32" vertical?

I'll take door #2 Bob.

tredadda 07-21-2013 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9826329)
Speculation until proven otherwise.

You could use the statement : "It was clear that nearly every team didn't think there was a QB worth drafting in the first round" but to say that the QB class was anything but special is an opinion and shouldn't be stated until they have a chance to play.

Give them a chance before you make your opinions, okay?
Fair enough.

Sorter 07-21-2013 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9826340)
According to all reports, the biggest difference between DeVito and Dorsey is leadership. Supposedly (and I can only go on what I've been told and read), DeVito is a very vocal leader in the lockerroom, especially amongst the defensive lineman.

If true, he could prove to be more valuable, especially in crunch time, than Glenn Dorsey.
That's fair. I haven't read anything about that, nor have I looked, so I'm fairly ignorant to it sans a few radio interviews he did when first signed. I'm mainly comparing their ability to pass rush effectively, which seems right now to be quite similar. It's quite possible my opinion could change before the start of the season after TC and I get the chance to break down some film from last year.

BossChief 07-21-2013 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9826279)
This team has no defensive line and a very shaky secondary.
I think this DL is gonna surprise.

If Sean Smith can step his game up and the front 7 can get a little more pressure, this secondary can start to impress.

tredadda 07-21-2013 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 9826343)
Again, I really could care less about one draft, or one player. I just think this mediocre, me too bullshit that is Chiefs football that keeps perpetuating itself needs to stop. The last time I was really excited about a Chiefs season was in the Vermeil days when I felt like the team was trying to innovate and do things that were special. I'm not on a ledge, I'm fully prepared for a very sub-par year, even to Chief standards, and can't wait for us to draft another d-lineman with what is sure to be a top 10 pick. Not even thinking about QB because we have, gasps, Alex F'n Smith y'all...
Damn you are the Eeyore of this board. Cheer up. Its a new season and anything can happen.


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