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kccrow 11-29-2016 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12585321)
I'm am not an Alex fan, but I agree that it will take a LOT for him to not be back next year. Stats are stats, and most times won't even reflect on the outcome of a game. What is he, 18-3 over the last 21 games? Unless he is blowing games, I cant see them dumping him.

The Chiefs have that record and 46 guys dress for game day. Records are not an excuse for an individual's level of play. While I would agree that stats don't always tell the whole story, pretending wins do is nonsense. I hear the phrase "all he does is win" thrown around here. No, he doesn't win. The Chiefs win. He helps facilitate wins. How well he is operating within the construct of each game plan the Chiefs' coaching staff has set up is only for them to know with 100% certainty. However, watching his film shows many miscues and missed opportunities. He is safe until the Chiefs have a better alternative presented to them, but he is far from untouchable.

Aspengc8 11-29-2016 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12585327)
The Chiefs have that record and 46 guys dress for game day. Records are not an excuse for an individual's level of play. While I would agree that stats don't always tell the whole story, pretending wins do is nonsense. I hear the phrase "all he does is win" thrown around here. No, he doesn't win. The Chiefs win. He helps facilitate wins. How well he is operating within the construct of each game plan the Chiefs' coaching staff has set up is only for them to know with 100% certainty. However, watching his film shows many miscues and missed opportunities. He is safe until the Chiefs have a better alternative presented to them, but he is far from untouchable.

I agree, and that's why I stated that unless he is forcing turnovers and facilitating losses, Reid is not going to dump him.

RealSNR 11-29-2016 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12585310)
"I have respect for the guy," Andy Reid said. "Very unappreciated outside these walls. ... Everybody is down on him but he comes through and he shows his mental toughness and pushes through."


And you listen to the other player interviews and how they have his back, it would have something very dramatic for McNabb to be off the roster by 2009

FYP

Pasta Little Brioni 11-29-2016 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12584296)
Clay would be nice to have right here to post some pics of the Denver umbrella coverage on that last drive.

Well get on it spanky. They sure as hell weren't rushing 3 every down.

CupidStunt 11-29-2016 10:21 AM

What I don't understand is this: you idiot homers supporting him *ONLY* do it because he's a Chief. If he was a Bronco you'd be ****ing laughing your sloppy tits off at how bad he is.

And the question is, if you TRULY care about the Chiefs and want to see them win CHAMPIONSHIPS -- not regular season games against pathetic teams in lucky fashion -- why wouldn't you be first in line to get this turd out of town so that a REAL QB can lead this otherwise talented team where it belongs?

You people are truly an embarrassment. Each and every one of you is probably in that Eric Fisher GIF. I can't even imagine how much jerking you must've done in the 90s, while other teams were busy actually winning.

OnTheWarpath15 11-29-2016 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12585459)
What I don't understand is this: you idiot homers supporting him *ONLY* do it because he's a Chief. If he was a Bronco you'd be ****ing laughing your sloppy tits off at how bad he is.

And the question is, if you TRULY care about the Chiefs and want to see them win CHAMPIONSHIPS -- not regular season games against pathetic teams in lucky fashion -- why wouldn't you be first in line to get this turd out of town so that a REAL QB can lead this otherwise talented team where it belongs?

You people are truly an embarrassment. Each and every one of you is probably in that Eric Fisher GIF. I can't even imagine how much jerking you must've done in the 90s, while other teams were busy actually winning.

Dont even have to be a Bronco.

Think about all the QB's this place has "laughed at" or attempted to discredit who are infinitely better than Alex. Christ, this place has criticized 4,000 passers who have won a SB, while defending Captain "Non-Concussion" Concussion.

You could damn near pull a QB's name at random out of a hat, pair them with this defense, and they'd be a contender. But unless the defense goes on a 2000 Ravens-like run, Alex Smith isn't one of those names.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-29-2016 10:46 AM

Because winning is the ultimate deodorant. It's as simple as that. The D giving up bombs to shit QBs like Semen is just as inexcusable. Ultimately it comes down to ball security and elite special teams paired with a defense that tightens in the red zone. They all work in unison, stats be damned.

threebag 11-29-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12585311)
Coachspeak. Happens all the time.

Still better than Troll Talk

Pasta Little Brioni 11-29-2016 10:51 AM

Ball security, a vicious defense, and elite special teams. There is no other way they can consistently win like this...and yes it isn't a fluke when it's been happening for four years.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-29-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12585321)
I'm am not an Alex fan, but I agree that it will take a LOT for him to not be back next year. Stats are stats, and most times won't even reflect on the outcome of a game. What is he, 18-3 over the last 21 games? Unless he is blowing games, I cant see them dumping him.

Hopefully, he'll play until he's 60! (slob-knob-slob-knob/Tigger/Sandy)

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12585459)
What I don't understand is this: you idiot homers supporting him *ONLY* do it because he's a Chief. If he was a Bronco you'd be ****ing laughing your sloppy tits off at how bad he is.

And the question is, if you TRULY care about the Chiefs and want to see them win CHAMPIONSHIPS -- not regular season games against pathetic teams in lucky fashion -- why wouldn't you be first in line to get this turd out of town so that a REAL QB can lead this otherwise talented team where it belongs?

You people are truly an embarrassment. Each and every one of you is probably in that Eric Fisher GIF. I can't even imagine how much jerking you must've done in the 90s, while other teams were busy actually winning.

Every now and then, a post comes along so profound, so poetic, so earth-shaking, and so erotically sensual that you want nothing more than to make love to it and buy it a double-chocolate dipped Mercedes Benz as a way of saying, "thank you for ****ing me so good".

This...

...is such a post.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-29-2016 11:49 AM

I have dubbed Stunt our newest turd, Dag!

ScareCrowe 11-29-2016 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12584776)
Smith has been the beneficiary of stout, opportunic defenses. Without that his win% would be garbage IMO.

I don't know abut that, I'll definitely agree the defense has been opportunistic, but I find it pretty hard to call the 28th ranked defense in yds/gm stout. Granted their knack for getting TO & stopping other teams in the red zone has helped keep the offense in games. However it's also worth pointing out that the fact that they give up so many yards leads to us being in the lower half of total drives.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-29-2016 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12585633)
I have dubbed Stunt our newest turd, Dag!

It is a magnificent honor, to be worn with pride like a flaming Dildo at Barry and Mike Obammy's 'Rainbow Day at the White House', yes.

Huzzah!

CupidStunt 11-29-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12585496)
The D giving up bombs to shit QBs like Semen is just as inexcusable.

This is true with two MAJOR asterisks:

1) Having a good QB will always give you a chance to overcome this regardless, while having a decent defense will NOT always give you a chance to overcome the pathetic production Alex Whiff gives

2) Our D specifically doesn't give up bombs with regularity, so the damning is less consistent, while Alex Whiff is gutter trash week in and week out

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-29-2016 11:58 AM

It's not about how many deep balls or the lack thereof get thrown or even completed.

It's about having a QB that makes defenses and D-Coords say, "we can't rely on any kind of tendency for the QB we are about to face". "We have a general idea, based on a collection of film, of what this guy is capable of, but we can't stack the box and force this QB to beat us on intermediate to longer passes, because he will do exactly that".


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