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Dr. Van Halen 11-18-2013 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10201994)
Assuming we stand pat at QB in the draft; I don't know how camp is going to go, but if it and the preseason transpire the way I believe they will, I'd start Bray immediately.
Really? The Chiefs are 9-1 and you want them to start an undrafted rookie at QB?

That might not work so well.

Discuss Thrower 11-18-2013 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10201994)
Assuming we stand pat at QB in the draft; I don't know how camp is going to go, but if it and the preseason transpire the way I believe they will, I'd start Bray immediately.
Smith is getting one more year as unquestioned starter and will probably get an additional one after that.

And don't give me this Bray nonsense. He's a UDFA; unless he's ****ing Kurt Warner he's a backup at best.

Jakemall 11-18-2013 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10201915)
NO. that's YOUR POINT OF VIEW.

I knew exactly why the price was paid.

It was a second, and a conditional.

Andy and John saw an offense devoid of talent, and needed a caretaker.

You want to know how I know I am right, and you and your slurpers like JasonsAuto are wrong?

The fact that already the Chiefs have picked up 3 FORMER 49ER RECEIVERS THIS YEAR!!!!!!

and how I can tell you further how I am right, and you are wrong?

Watch HOW MASSIVE THE OVERHAUL is on the Chiefs offensive weapons will be in the offseason.

Take a guess at who will still be here.

Hint. Hes number 11
My guess is that the chiefs will take a TE, a WR and a couple of OL (guards) early in the draft..unless there's a major pick up in FA.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-18-2013 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10202006)
Even if AS had Jerry Rice in his prime the outcome would have been the same. He is a risk-averse inaccurate QB.
They don't get that, and they never will. Our last three wins were offensive garbage as well. The picture has been painted. Time to blow it up and start again.

Snapplez 11-18-2013 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10201915)
NO. that's YOUR POINT OF VIEW.

I knew exactly why the price was paid.

It was a second, and a conditional.

Andy and John saw an offense devoid of talent, and needed a caretaker.

You want to know how I know I am right, and you and your slurpers like JasonsAuto are wrong?

The fact that already the Chiefs have picked up 3 FORMER 49ER RECEIVERS THIS YEAR!!!!!!

and how I can tell you further how I am right, and you are wrong?

Watch HOW MASSIVE THE OVERHAUL is on the Chiefs offensive weapons will be in the offseason.

Take a guess at who will still be here.

Hint. Hes number 11
Good thing we used those draft picks on a caretaker, instead of improving the offensive talent then.

Keenan Allen, Zach Ertz, Gio Bernard, Robert Woods, Terrance Williams, Marquise Goodwin, Jordan Reed all could've been had at our 2nd round pick.

If all it takes is improved offensive talent around a shitty qb to make the shitty qb play better, then why didn't we draft one of these guys and keep Cassel? Reid thought that Smiff would improve the play of those around him and he simply hasn't. Why is it so hard for you to understand the concept that good qbs elevate those around them, while shit qbs have to be carried by those around them?

Mr. Laz 11-18-2013 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10201860)
No running game? We averaged damn near 6 YPC with Jamaal just under 5. What we lack is a commitment to the running game, which is Andy Reid's fault.
which is why i included the part about being let down by his coaches.

our coaches don't run the ball enough even when it shows success

it's a litany of failures

a blown Oline assignment
a dropped pass
a stupid coaching decision
a bad penalty

Manning was 24/40
Smith was 21/45

You figure in a half a dozen drops or 'poor catch attempts' and Smith completion % is almost identical to Manning's

Bowe would be #3 or #4 on Denver's team. Avery wouldn't even make the roster. The NFL knew this when nobody was interested when Pioli was trying to tag and trade Bowe.

Everyone wants an elite QB but Alex Smith isn't THE issue.

jd1020 11-18-2013 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen (Post 10202009)
Really? The Chiefs are 9-1 and you want them to start an undrafted rookie at QB?

That might not work so well.
We all know that the draft, camp, and preseason happens between week 11 and 12.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-18-2013 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen (Post 10202009)
Really? The Chiefs are 9-1 and you want them to start an undrafted rookie at QB?

That might not work so well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10202010)
Smith is getting one more year as unquestioned starter and will probably get an additional one after that.

And don't give me this Bray nonsense. He's a UDFA; unless he's ****ing Kurt Warner he's a backup at best.
vvvvvvvvv

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10202014)
They don't get that, and they never will. Our last three wins were offensive garbage as well. The picture has been painted. Time to blow it up and start again.

Jakemall 11-18-2013 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10202006)
Even if AS had Jerry Rice in his prime the outcome would have been the same. He is a risk-averse inaccurate QB.
Jerry was great at YAC and rarely dropped a ball....so I'm going to disagree with you here.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-18-2013 12:55 PM
Quote:
Watch HOW MASSIVE THE OVERHAUL is on the Chiefs offensive weapons will be in the offseason.

Take a guess at who will still be here.

Hint. Hes number 11
And in that lovely case, we'll still be sucking Donkey cocks on offense. Yay.

Dr. Van Halen 11-18-2013 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapplez (Post 10202016)
Good thing we used those draft picks on a caretaker, instead of improving the offensive talent then.

Keenan Allen, Zach Ertz, Gio Bernard, Robert Woods, Terrance Williams, Marquise Goodwin, Jordan Reed all could've been had at our 2nd round pick.

If all it takes is improved offensive talent around a shitty qb to make the shitty qb play better, then why didn't we draft one of these guys and keep Cassel? Reid thought that Smiff would improve the play of those around him and he simply hasn't. Why is it so hard for you to understand the concept that good qbs elevate those around them, while shit qbs have to be carried by those around them?
So, your idea is that the Chiefs should have stuck with Cassel? You want to go on the record as saying getting rid of Cassel was a mistake? That's bold.

Jakemall 11-18-2013 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapplez (Post 10202016)
Good thing we used those draft picks on a caretaker, instead of improving the offensive talent then.

Keenan Allen, Zach Ertz, Gio Bernard, Robert Woods, Terrance Williams, Marquise Goodwin, Jordan Reed all could've been had at our 2nd round pick.

If all it takes is improved offensive talent around a shitty qb to make the shitty qb play better, then why didn't we draft one of these guys and keep Cassel? Reid thought that Smiff would improve the play of those around him and he simply hasn't. Why is it so hard for you to understand the concept that good qbs elevate those around them, while shit qbs have to be carried by those around them?
and you would have had Cassell to throw it to them? Good luck with that.

ChiefsCountry 11-18-2013 12:56 PM
How come the "All-World" Denver Broncos greatest WR core has more drops than the Chiefs?
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...iving&rank=232

dirk digler 11-18-2013 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10202014)
They don't get that, and they never will. Our last three wins were offensive garbage as well. The picture has been painted. Time to blow it up and start again.
The picture was painted long before he came to KC. Though I understand why they brought him in, and that is because they didn't like anyone in the draft or other FA's QB's.

jd1020 11-18-2013 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10202035)
The picture was painted long before he came to KC. Though I understand why they brought him in, and that is because they didn't like anyone in the draft or other FA's QB's.
They didn't like any one else so they overvalued a shitty QB enough to make an offer the 49ers couldn't refuse 1 month before it could even be completed.


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