Geno got work with starters last week.

Which means nothing, other than the fact that Geno is competing for starting QB and Bray is not.

Bray is not in competition for the number two. We don't DO that sort of thing here.

Expound.

Is Geno Smith more likely to be the franchise altering superstar QB that you're clamoring for than Tyler Bray?

Significantly more likely? A little more likely?

I just don't see it. If I had to bet which one of these guys becomes the next top 5 superstar QB in this league, I'd take the Hail Mary with Bray.

It's not as simple as a silly little > sign - sports don't work that way. Hell, very little in life works that way. So brass tacks - since you're diminishing Smith because he's not going to be a superstar, it's superstar or bust in your world. Is Geno Smith really a clearly better bet to be a superstar than Tyler Bray?

And as for "agree to disagree" - you've never done that in your entire time on this board. You know you've overplayed your hand here and are hoping we walk away from the discusion. You aren't sitting in your chair right now actually thinking that Tyler Bray weighs 215 lbs; you just had your agenda to push and realized about halfway up the hill that you were out of steam. But whatever; if this helps you save face in your eyes, I'm ambivalent towards it.

Yes. Merely based on the fact the Jets want him to be and will support him every inch of the way.

Tyler Bray has a much bigger mountain to climb. He's unlikely to ever start an NFL game in the next three years. Geno will get several starts, probably just this year.

That alone makes it more likely for Geno. He has more opportunity.

Geno was the best developmental QB in the draft, the key word being "developmental". He's not ready and he's in a shit situation in NY. Bray is in the better possible reality.

It is what it is.

Dawson. Montana. Green. The three best Chiefs QBs.

What do they all have in common? All retreads, all won a lot of games.

Getting those retreads weren't the problem, it was not having a young guy ready to take the reigns when the inevitable short window of those guys closed

So your going to hang your hat on these guys?

Dawson was 50 years ago,

Montana is the GOAT,

and Trent Green, well.. you got one example right.

Plus, when you ONLY HAVE RETREAD QBS OF COURSE YOUR BEST QBS ARE RETREADS.

Bad argument.

Yeah one championship I will give that too Dawson before my time. Yeah a playoff win with Montana fan****ingtastick 1994 going be 20 years. We couldn't even get a first down in the last playoff game with Trent Green in the first half against the Colts. I liked those guys just fine and dandy. They didn't last long enough not counting Dawson to win us a Championship. I'm happy for Dawson but that was 40 years ago.

The average Chiefs quarterback for the last 40 years last 2.5 years Trent Green being the longest term with 5 years. Draft a quarterback and give this franchise a 10 to 15 year window of opportunity to win some championships. These retreads don't last.

I don't care to win a lot of games with retread quarterbacks. We have won a lot of games with retread quarterbacks.

I want to win Championships.

Is that too much to ask?

That's the difference between the Geno mafia and everyone else. If you didn't like Geno you must just have no interest in winning a championship. That's the only explanation!

Yes, we are Chiefs fans. About 8% of us actually remember the last championship. The rest of us think the Superbowl is a myth, with a map of it tattooed on the back of some little girl in a really shitty movie with lots of water. It's a myth...

We do love band-aid quarterbacks though, and having an organization about 10 years behind the curve with the rest of the league in terms of football innovation.

You call me an embarrassment? Well thank God I'm not a "True Fan" that accepts mediocrity. I will keep asking the Chiefs to draft and develop a quarterback to win Championships with thank you very much. At least give an effort to draft and develop if you plan to build this through the draft then do it Clark Hunt.