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Prison Bitch 10-22-2015 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 11824811)
Hence why I used the term redemption. He gets another opportunity in arguably the biggest start of his career to show the opposite.

But Cueto "redeemed" himself already in Game 5 vs Houston right? That means his loss to Toronto the other day didn't matter, he'd already been redeemed. I mean if Price can wipe away an 0-7 record with 1 good start then Cueto's already there.

KC_Connection 10-22-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11824834)
But Cueto "redeemed" himself already in Game 5 vs Houston right? That means his loss to Toronto the other day didn't matter, he'd already been redeemed. I mean if Price can wipe away an 0-7 record with 1 good start then Cueto's already there.

Who said anything about wipe away? I just hope he starts changing the narrative about himself with a good start and gets us to a game 7. That would be nice.

KC_Connection 10-22-2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11824828)
game changed when the ump didn't ring up Bautista on that beautiful 3-2 hook by Volquez. That was a strike. But eh, shit happens. Shouldn't have let that pitch get away to Donaldson before that. Hats off to Estrada.

Well it might have been/might have not been. Here's an interesting article on that pitch (both guys executed well on it): http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/edins...perfect-pitch/

Hootie 10-22-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 11824943)
Well it might have been/might have not been. Here's an interesting article on that pitch (both guys executed well on it): http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/edins...perfect-pitch/

So that article just elaborated on my entire point. That pitch not being called a strike effectively ended the game

Hootie 10-22-2015 01:58 PM

though I'll give mad props to the way Edinson handled getting totally ****ed on that perfect 3-2 pitch to Bautista ... he didn't handle it like a Blue Jay, that's for sure. The ump was probably afraid to death of calling that perfect pitch a strike because Bautista would have ninja chucked his bat 3 miles ... the fans would have littered the field with garbage ... and Bautista would have bitched and moaned about it for the next 3 innings ...

Eddy just shook his head and moved on. Thank God.

KC_Connection 10-22-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11824962)
So that article just elaborated on my entire point. That pitch not being called a strike effectively ended the game

The Jays probably would have won regardless, I believe it was only a 10% swing. There was some serious debate about whether it was a strike or not, though, the pitch was that close.

Hootie 10-22-2015 02:03 PM

I don't buy into that FG % bullshit. It's ****ing stupid.

The fact of the matter is ... as soon as he loaded up the bases with nobody out, the game was over. I know that as a baseball fan.

1st and 2nd with 1 out? No. Get out of that 1-0 and the Royals are still very much in the game.

You're not getting out of a bases loaded, nobody out jam very often.

That pitch should have been called a strike. Plain and simple. It was such a good pitch it fooled the umpire. Or the Royals were up 3-1 playing in Toronto so he gave the home team the benefit of the doubt / didn't want to put up with Baby Bautista and the white trash slumdog crowd of Toronto heaving shit on to the field for 30 minutes

KC_Connection 10-22-2015 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11824985)
I don't buy into that FG % bullshit. It's ****ing stupid.

So you don't buy into the history of baseball, then, because that is what those percentages are based on.

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That pitch should have been called a strike. Plain and simple.
Well if you actually read the article, you'd know it wasn't quite that plain and simple. Far from it, really.

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Or the Royals were up 3-1 playing in Toronto so he gave the home team the benefit of the doubt / didn't want to put up with Baby Bautista and the white trash slumdog crowd of Toronto heaving shit on to the field for 30 minutes
Why so hostile? I do have to say that I love how nervous this supposed "paper team" is making you, though. LMAO

TomBarndtsTwin 10-22-2015 02:13 PM

No reason to be 'nervous' now. Back to the friendly confines of the Midwest.

(where you don't have to be worried about your infant child getting pelted with a beer bottle because of a bad call by an ump)

Perks of the Midwest in the good 'ol USA.

Hootie 10-22-2015 02:14 PM

the history of baseball has nothing to do with the present of this series

I watched Boston battle back down 3-0

I saw the Cubs choke away their chance at a WS up 3-1

I know a few things:

1) The Royals are going to be favored to lose game 6. Price > Ventura.

So I have a hard time believing the 75% figure people are throwing around. I give us a 65% chance to advance to the WS at this point.

I'd rather be on the 65 side opposed to the 35 side ... but the 3-2 with 2 in KC is irrelevant. It's two 1 game series for the Blue Jays. We're going to get their absolute best shot game 6 ... and any advantage we have in game 7 is strictly due to the fact that our bullpen >>>>> Toronto. But I'd imagine our kryptonite, Marco Estrada, will be the first Jay out of the pen game 7 if needed.

Shawny2X4 10-22-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 11824981)
The Jays probably would have won regardless, I believe it was only a 10% swing. There was some serious debate about whether it was a strike or not, though, the pitch was that close.

True, but if we get out of the sixth with the Jays up 2-0 or 3-0 there's a bigger chance that Gibbons would have replaced Estrada with Price.

suzzer99 10-22-2015 02:33 PM

Which we may be happy he didn't. We'll be seeing Price for the second time in a few days. We seem to light up Price about 1 in 3 times we see him. 0-7 in the playoffs - all the pressure is on him.

ARROW2 10-22-2015 02:37 PM

Yeah but he did pitch pretty good in game 2. **** the blow jays and ANYBODY who supports those whining ass bitches.

Why Not? 10-22-2015 02:53 PM

Look at the numbers. Price 22 innings against the Royals, 11 runs. I garuntee you nobody in that lineup is afraid of David Price

Prison Bitch 10-22-2015 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 11824936)
Who said anything about wipe away? .

That's what the word "redeemed" means.


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