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Pogue 07-20-2018 10:35 AM

Why was the captain going against the wind? Makes zero sense to me.

mikeyis4dcats. 07-20-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 13636602)
Why was the captain going against the wind? Makes zero sense to me.


because they were close to the dock, and that was the way the wind was blowing. They couldn't run cross wind otherwise they have a much higher risk of capsizing.

Molitoth 07-20-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 13636602)
Why was the captain going against the wind? Makes zero sense to me.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda,... but yeah, it would have made more sense for him to go with the wind to the nearest land and just crash into someones dock.

mikeyis4dcats. 07-20-2018 10:39 AM

you can see the Belle here, and I bet that parking lot just to the north is where the Ducks launch, you can see a boat ramp through the trees.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sh...!4d-93.3172096

vailpass 07-20-2018 10:41 AM

Good luck with the insurance rates on those death traps going forward.

cooper barrett 07-20-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 13636530)
Wouldn’t something be signed before getting a n relieving the company of any liability? Either that or there is signs, printed on the back of the ticket etc.

Those do not relieve them of liability for their actions or lack of.

The Branson Ducks will be liquidated (sold to Pattinson's brother in law.:D:D) and the insurance company will settle within the policy limitations unless they can prove negligence of the individual who was overseeing the operation or the driver and then they can go for jail time.

The Company's owner stated on Nation TV that "the boats should not have been in the water..." stating the experience of the pilot and lack of warning for the storm cell that caused the boats sinking.

Prison Bitch 07-20-2018 10:46 AM

There's no $$$ to sue

A company in Branson bought this "local chapter" of ducks

Maybe insurance pays out? But I doubt this small operation has a ton of coverage

seaofred 07-20-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 13636618)
you can see the Belle here, and I bet that parking lot just to the north is where the Ducks launch, you can see a boat ramp through the trees.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sh...!4d-93.3172096


I believe that is correct. That is the ramp they enter and exit the lake. Looks like when the warning was issued they did head back towards the ramp, but must have been far enough away they didn't make it back before the storm hit.

Fish 07-20-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 13636602)
Why was the captain going against the wind? Makes zero sense to me.

That's the best bet to keep the boat upright. Going parallel to the waves will quickly capsize the boat.

Skyy God 07-20-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13636628)
There's no $$$ to sue

A company in Branson bought this "local chapter" of ducks

Maybe insurance pays out? But I doubt this small operation has a ton of coverage

1) They absolutely have liability insurance

2) Herschends are minority owners

thebrad84 07-20-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 13636614)
Woulda, coulda, shoulda,... but yeah, it would have made more sense for him to go with the wind to the nearest land and just crash into someones dock.

Hindsight is always 20/20. He had every reason to initially believe the best move was to "ride the storm out" and not slam in to the docks/shore and throw passengers around. The possibility of capsizing likely didn't even cross his mind until that last minute or two, at which point they were already ****ed. Only thing at that point that could have saved lives is his announcement to abandon ship.

luv 07-20-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 13636601)
You couldn’t drag me into one (or to Branson, for that matter).

I'm guessing you live nearby. People far enough away either go for fun or curiosity. People who live nearby just steer clear...lol.

Skyy God 07-20-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13636626)
Those do not relieve them of liability for their actions or lack of.

The Branson Ducks will be liquidated (sold to Pattinson's brother in law.:D:D) and the insurance company will settle within the policy limitations unless they can prove negligence of the individual who was overseeing the operation or the driver and then they can go for jail time.

The Company's owner stated on Nation TV that "the boats should not have been in the water..." stating the experience of the pilot and lack of warning for the storm cell that caused the boats sinking.

Thirowing the (possibly dead) captain ocerboard, I see.

DJJasonp 07-20-2018 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13636564)
Stood around & watched.

It always amazes me how people get upset at people for recording something like this. They were on the Branson Belle with a full crew aboard. Did you want all the passengers to start diving into the water? Talk about tragedy. Multiple the deaths by ten if everyone did that. Have common sense people. This rush to judgment & condemnation of people disgusts me.

wow....sorry to disgust you. You must get disgusted easily.

Your comment is fair though.

But even if you're going to stand around and do nothing (as you put it).......isnt it, at the very least, a little morbid to film people dying in a tragedy?

It's not like these people are photojournalists working for Time magazine.

Maybe just me.....but I also remember a thread a while back where kids were filming a guy drowning where the theme/comments were similar.

Pogue 07-20-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 13636605)
because they were close to the dock, and that was the way the wind was blowing. They couldn't run cross wind otherwise they have a much higher risk of capsizing.

It shouldn’t matter how close to the dock the boat was, the captain should know the boat can’t hold up in those conditions. Why not have the wind at your back and just beach it?


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