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Originally Posted by C-Mac

Not trying to stir things up, but I think there is "ONE" worldwide religion that can stake claim and deserves a little historical credit. The JW's claim they are politically neutral and it is against their bible based religion to kill their fellow man. I remember there was a guy at a body shop who painted a car for me a few years ago, that was a JW. He told me of his and his fellow believers imprisonment during the Vietnam War because of his religious beliefs. I totally gained respect for him and his religion after actually talking to him and hearing about his story and also the Nazi WW2 stories. Below are some Google links.

http://www.catholic.com/library/Hist...itnesesses.asp
"They will not serve in the military....."

http://www.baycrest.org/Spring%202001/article12.htm
"Out of obedience to God and love of neighbor, Witnesses
would not join the Nazi Party......serve in the military, or
perform war-related work."

http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/more_facts.html
"On September 15, 1939, the first conscientious objector, August Dickman, a Jehovah's Witness, who had refused military service, was publicly shot."

Yeah, that's actually very true. I was going to say something about it but I'd rather not defend JWs.

They try to paint their organization as a bunch of saints but it's not true at all. There have been plenty of problems, especially in recent years. Child molestation, stealing congregation money, etc.

But they don't kill anyone! ROFL

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Originally Posted by Jenson71

I am in AP European History.

Good for you man, it's a good class.

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Good for you man, it's a good class.

It is. We get to go to Europe in March. I've mentioned that here a good 30 or 40 times.

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Originally Posted by Jenson71

It is. We get to go to Europe in March. I've mentioned that here a good 30 or 40 times.

Hah, that's awesome. We never did. We just studied our asses off. It was the 2nd hardest class in school, right after Chem 2 AP.

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Chem 2 AP.

Ouch.

GoChiefs said:
""Yeah, that's actually very true. I was going to say something about it but I'd rather not defend JWs.

They try to paint their organization as a bunch of saints but it's not true at all. There have been plenty of problems, especially in recent years. Child molestation, stealing congregation money, etc.

But they don't kill anyone! ""

Actually i'd put them in second behind the muslims. Look in to the "no Blood" policy No organ transplants of the past and the suicides from kids they've kicked out and add them up it's brutal.
From an ex-jw you should know this but maybe not realize it.

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Hah, that's awesome. We never did. We just studied our asses off. It was the 2nd hardest class in school, right after Chem 2 AP.

History comes pretty easy to me. I enjoy it and I'm good at remembering alot of things.

I was going to say something else about it, but I've forgotten what it was. (How ironic)

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Originally Posted by Jenson71

History comes pretty easy to me. I enjoy it and I'm good at remembering alot of things.

I was going to say something else about it, but I've forgotten what it was. (How ironic)

So did you learn about how phony the Catholic Church was? Popes were corrupt bastards, corrupting and destroying the whole Western Europe.

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Originally Posted by Boise_Chief

Actually i'd put them in second behind the muslims. Look in to the "no Blood" policy No organ transplants of the past and the suicides from kids they've kicked out and add them up it's brutal.
From an ex-jw you should know this but maybe not realize it.

I'm fully aware of the no-blood thing. I went to meetings for 19 years!

I guess the justification was that they were all afraid of getting AIDs or something from stored blood (that and the stupid verse in the bible), but seriously, is there that much risk? It has just now dawned on me how stupid the whole no-blood thing is. They even carry little "no-blood" cards in their wallets, you know.

They've had some rocky times, sure.

Maybe we'll see some of those beautiful old churches they built way back when with all that money they had.

Yeah I figured you knew about it...... have you thought of the number of lives lost and just think in two or three years blood will be fine. Btw those disfellowshiped for blood will still be DF'd

The guy talked to our school today. About abstinence and lust and stuff. And his wife talked with him, and the whole time, I was just thinking about how hot she was.

If you get some free time you may want to check out George Wiegel's biography of the current pope.

Witness to Hope

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Originally Posted by Delano

If you get some free time you may want to check out George Wiegel's biography of the current pope.

Witness to Hope

Cool. That was the book the kid in school was reading. Thanks alot.

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Originally Posted by Boise_Chief

Yeah I figured you knew about it...... have you thought of the number of lives lost and just think in two or three years blood will be fine. Btw those disfellowshiped for blood will still be DF'd

What do you mean blood will be fine? Did they change their policy about blood transfusions?