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Rain Man 03-01-2005 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kclee
Hey, thats Rainman and not a cripple. (I think he just has a rather large butt.) Don't stare or comment on it, he'll get a complex. And that girl is 19.


Your noticing of my buttocks is made even more disturbing by the fact that you apparently just pantsed a teenage boy.

patteeu 03-01-2005 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
The key word is "willing". Again, it may not relate to these cases, but I'd hardly call the victim of sexual abuse "willing". Many experts also believe that the ones that claim to be "willing" are incapable of understanding all of the underlying issues of such a relationship.

Please don't try to sell me on the idea that you see no difference between voluntary behavior (even on the part of a child who may not possess the ability to offer full, adult-level consent when it comes to sexual relationships) and involuntary behavior. If you do take that position then please don't ever post that you think a child should be held accountable for any of their actions no matter how heinous.

BTW, the post you responded to never even mentioned children, but it did attempt to illustrate the point that studies that find correlations between two activities don't necessarily show causal relationships between them.

Kclee 03-01-2005 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Your noticing of my buttocks is made even more disturbing by the fact that you apparently just pantsed a teenage boy.

Don't judge me!

jspchief 03-01-2005 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu
Please don't try to sell me on the idea that you see no difference between voluntary behavior (even on the part of a child who may not possess the ability to offer full, adult-level consent when it comes to sexual relationships) and involuntary behavior. If you do take that position then please don't ever post that you think a child should be held accountable for any of their actions no matter how heinous.

BTW, the post you responded to never even mentioned children, but it did attempt to illustrate the point that studies that find correlations between two activities don't necessarily show causal relationships between them.

What? It was in reference to the stats that show that sexually abused boys have higher risk of drug abuse among other things. Sexual abuse of a child does not have two willing participants.

Calcountry 03-01-2005 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
Neither is off-limits as a source of humor for me. If someone else objects to making light of such things, hey that's their deal. They probably wouldn't enjoy hanging out with me in a bar, though.

Just because I'm willing to make a joke concerning a topic doesn't mean I don't believe the topic to be a serious one... nor do I condone the actions of any wrongdoer that may be involved in said topic.

Is there anything that is off limits as a sourse of humor for you?

Very sincerely curious?

picasso 03-01-2005 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by picasso
If it was consentual it's not molestation.

AT THE AGE OF 16!! (Two years later then they can go die for their country.)
Adolescents can think for themselves and make decisions. They are not mindless idiot spawn. But they aren't responsible enough to make this type of a decision though. Many of them have sex anyway without guidance and without consent and nobody goes to jail because it is minor sexual behavior. Still there could come a baby. That is where the responsibility falls on the adult in this case. It's about responsibility not about perverted sexual deviency. And it shouldn't be labeled criminally as molestation or rape unless physically forced. There shouldn't be imprisonment for it. There should be counseling for it for both the adolescent and the adult. but I also think an adult teaching children should lose their job over it and made impossible to teach again.

I have a 16 year old son and NO I wouldn't give him high fives if he banged his teacher. But if it was consentual he wouldn't share it with me if he did. Would I want him to - I don't know. To me that's his life outside of our lives as a family. And the decisions that he makes, he will have to live with in his lifetime. Doing drugs, alcohol, banging girls or teachers. I don't advocate it and I don't harp on it. It's there and he has to be ADULT enough to make the right decision regardless of the curiousity.

beer bacon 03-01-2005 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
Ya, I said in a later post that they were stats for boys that were sexually assaulted, not boys that were sexually assaulted by teachers. I probably won't find any studies with that specific of criteria.

Even so, I doubt this is good for a child's mental health. I can only wonder how you'd feel if it were your child...

Women aren't good for the mental health of men in general. At least this kid is getting some sex out of it.

Calcountry 03-01-2005 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
No, pretty much not.

At least you are consistent.

:)

ROYC75 03-01-2005 02:31 PM

( Boy ) Teacher, Teacher, I declair
I wanna see your underware

(Teacher )After school we shall meet
We can get it on in the back seat

Iowanian 03-01-2005 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
You're deluded.

Busted.


OK........maybe I just learned that If I kept asking, eventually, one of them had enough Tequilla from thinking I was Pretty.

Iowanian 03-01-2005 02:49 PM

got it bad, got it bad.soooooooooo bad.
 
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"Miss Davis.......You go ta prom wit me?"

Predarat 03-01-2005 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75
( Boy ) Teacher, Teacher, I declair
I wanna see your underware

(Teacher )After school we shall meet
We can get it on in the back seat

Thats hilarious!!!!

patteeu 03-01-2005 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
What? It was in reference to the stats that show that sexually abused boys have higher risk of drug abuse among other things. Sexual abuse of a child does not have two willing participants.

I find your attempt to equate child rape against a completely unwilling young child with statutory rape involving a near-adult who believes themselves to be a willing participant to be overly simplistic.

And your use of statistics is dubious as has already been pointed out.

ROYC75 03-01-2005 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Predarat
Thats hilarious!!!!


I was kinda wondering who would pick up the next few lines to add to it ?

jcroft 03-01-2005 03:57 PM

My take:

It's wrong for a teacher, or anyone in a position of authority, to bang their students.

That having been said...

In this day and age, almost no one is a virgin past the age of 16. Most 16 year olds are having sex consentually on a regular basis. Many 16 year old girls are having consensual sex regualrly with guys over the age of 18. Some 16 year old boys are having consensual sex regularly with females over the age of 18. If you disagree with any of this, you are either in denail or completly out of touch with today's youth.

Consensual statutory "rape" on a sexually active 16 year old should not be considered anywhere near the crime that non-consensual child molestation is. There is a world of difference. A child who is raped and molested stands to have a life of problems because of it. A 16 year year old boy who bones his teacher, though, stands to lose nothing at all. I would imagine he will have not a single problem in life as a result. Of course, if the teacher gets caught, and it gets slapped all over newspapers, the 16 year old might have trouble because of THAT -- but not because of the sex itself.

I personally don't see much difference between a 16 year old boy boning a 16 year old girl and a 30 year old woman. They're both consensual, they both have equal health/pregnancy risks, and neither is likley to cause either party mental harm.

If this wasn't a teacher, I'd say neither party did anything wrong, in my mind (obviously, the law disagrees, i'm aware of that).


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