But, Carl's only in year 15 of his 5 year plan...how do we explain the other 20?

No seriously, are you on their payroll or something?

I can think of no other justification for your line of thinking from a fan's perspective.

Easy: Jack Steadman.

You'll have to talk to the team owner about that. I'd guess you'll have a hard time convincing him to change his line of thinking though seeing as it's his team and his money and he's free to do whatever he wants with it.

OMG! LOL....

I guess you're just a better fan than me.

You know, you might be right. Jack still does work in Hunt's organization in some capacity. He might just be the common demoninator here which exposes why KC hasnt given a SB to its fans.

Dammit Steadman!

And it was reported he made $30 mil in profits last year.

I think it does all go back to the owner. If he wanted to win a S.B. then we would come a lot closer to it.

Dude ... I don't understand you the Chiefs owe the fans 8 games ... is that the only games you watch. You sound like either a young squirt just starting out being a fan or not a real fan ... I mean you sound like a fan who doesn't care about winning. That is what sports is all about ... winning .... not just how they play the games...

That really depends on how things go. Ive been really, REALLY disgusted with the Chiefs organization as of late.

When it becomes pretty clear that the organization cares more about filling the stands and selling tickets than winning a championship, that leads me to believe that I should probably start cheering for another team if I want to be seeing my favorite team with the Superbowl.

The Chiefs were DEAD F'ING LAST in nearly every single solitary defensive stat last offseason. And what happened? They brought in no reputable new players in an offseason that had some quality free agents, only bargain basement pickups like Lional Dalton.

Clearly, they werent interested in improving the defense, or they wouldnt have signed back all their shitty starters instead of going out and acquiring some real talent.

I dont just watch the Chiefs to see them win 7 or 8 games, just for something to burn 3 hours on a Sunday. Im looking for that Playoff run and Superbowl victory. This team has had the offense to get that done for a few seasons now. And after a 13-3 season, CARRYING that pathetic defense, they still didnt see fit to buy any players to get it any better. Clearly, to me that says that winning a championship isnt high priority. Making a profit is, and that pisses me the F off. The Fans dont pay for their tickets just for something to do. They want to see them win a championship, and the cheap ass front office not doing anything to make that happen is a slap in the face to the fans. How they could just stand pat on defense when it was so bad.....its beyond my comprehension.

We had ONE guy in for an interview, and that was Troy Vincent, and he left without the Chiefs even making him an offer.


You might watch the Chiefs as a hobby, some passing thing where you dont really give a shit if they win a playoff game or not, but there are those of us who want to see the Chiefs win that superbowl that they are capable of if the Front Office would just lay out a little bit of cash to bring some capable defenders in here before this amazing offense is broken up by retirements.

One would think that 13 years without a playoff victory would be motivation for the Front Office to try to get just a bit more done in the Free Agency than what they have done in the past. Clearly, the past approaches have not worked, nor will they work in the future.


The offense probably has 1-2 more years left to perform at this high of a level, and then its going to be rebuilding from offense to defense completely, and the hopes of a superbowl become even more remote.

Anyone with any sense knows that the clock is ticking on this Chiefs team to win a SB. The time is NOW to get that defense up to standard and get this offense the help that it deserves. Its been carrying the team for 3 years now. Time to reward them with a little F'ing help so that they can actually be rewarded for performing so well, and not see all their hard work an awesome performances go down the toilet because the defense couldnt stop a high school JV team.


F the cap in 3 years. Its going to be a major rebuilding process by that time anyway, given the age of our offense. Get the players in NOW, and GO FOR IT. The fans have given the Front office enough profit with no return. Its time that we get at least something that shows the Front office would in fact like to win a SB, and not just make a profit.

If I was an NFL owner, I can assure you I would not. I'm very competitive and not winning a SB in 35 years, or a playoff game in 12, would eat the shit out of me to the point where I would spend money necessary - esp. if my name was on the AFC champions trophy and I was close to passing on. It would be worth something to me to hold a trophy with my name on it one last time.

His livelyhood? You are really, really reaching now. He was hired to do a job as a GM, made a 5-year plan promise, and is in year 16 (i could be off here) and has been to one AFC championship game.

They just gave the listing of past few years of 2nd round picks. Some scouts need their asses fired.

Trade for McGlockton
Kevin Lockett
Mike Cloud
Bartee
Freeman
Vermiel
Kawika Mitchell
Siavii and Wilson.


I do honestly believe a Chiefsplanet Poll winner could perform as well for the team than the average Chiefs 2nd round pick. It sure makes the Surtain thing look better, given past results.

So watching the Chiefs for you is not a hobby, what exactly is it besides a form of entertainment?

Im curious...

Free agency is like Christmas for titus and nmt1. This board brings them so much fund and joy from March until the draft.

Glad we settled that.

:)

There have been 3 decent picks in the last TWENTY years. I posted this the other day. Okoye, Tongue, Grunhard.

That's it. That's why I'm in favor of trading a #2 for Surtain.