To be honest I had no idea we were counting on Battle to start if Warfield was out. He showed nothing last season to warrant a feeling of security from the FO, IMO. Battle must have really been tearing up the OTA's.

In the last 5 years Surtain & Warfield have both just missed 4 games a piece. Once the suspension is over the chance of one of these guys starting is not so good. Just because they all came in on the free trip, does not mean the are all willing to play backup

To be honest, the guys they signed last year were old Gunther players. The general opinion last year was that weeding out Robinson's players ,his coaching influence and having Gunther work with his old crew would be sufficient to elevate the D.

Obviously it didn't work, but it was clear that there was a two year plan to fix the D - year one was keeping existing players to see who could still play or pick up Gunther's system, year two plugging the holes. Unfortunately there were a lot more holes than they probably thought existed.

I give them an A- this offseason. The minus is for not giving up a 6th round pick for Cowart to play MLB or backup the position.

:clap: that sounds just right!

And if you graded on a curve for the chiefs in the last 10 years you would have to say that this offseason was a A+, this is the first time in a long time that I felt that the FO did a good job with the DRAFT, FA combined.

Everyone keeps saying they don't trust what DV says, yet right here he's telling us the situation, ie: we'll probably sign the best CB avail that fits our budget.

Carl, Dick, nor Denny know the health or cap repercussions for anyone yet. As more time goes by the picture will become clearer.

Luz
sounds pretty straight forward to me...

vermiel is a HUGE spin doctor .... we have no idea whether he's being straight forward or not.

That's true. I remember him bluffing about Green, and prior to the Surtain trade I remember him exactly, by saying "it's out the window".

Vermeil bullsh*ts sometimes.

Either that or he just doesn't know what the hell CP is doing behind his back.

Now how did nobody else catch that? Well done phil!

I would agree most would have loved to have that type of combo at corner, however with as many holes as we had to fill, it would have been unwise to tie up the majority of our money on TWO players. Corner is one of the most expensive positions, so I never once thought we would land two high caliber corners in FA. I don't know why you would.

Also it was evident that Rolle and Rogers would be long gone before we picked in this year's draft, so we pulled the trigger on a PREMIER CB, upgrading the position in the process. Those two are irrelevant to the equation in my mind.

Look at the price tags at the FAs you named and then tell me how we could pull off a dynamic duo at corner this offseason. Surtain and Rolle would have tied up ALL of our money.

I didn't. But once we got Surtain, we could've still had Dyson. Yeah, no one wanted him as a FT starter, but he was cheap, young, and has starting experience, and he would've made a good nickel guy once Warfield returns.


Yes, I realize that it would've been impossible to sign both Surtain and Rolle. That's why I mentioned Dyson. Or, like I mentioned in an earlier post, we could've drafted more CB's instead of guys like Long, Kilian, Svitek, or Crap. The more guys you take at one position, the better the chance that at least one steps up and becomes the interim starter.

Sorry, but you can't rebuild an entire defense through FA. You fill what holes you can, but your draft picks have to step up, and guys on your roster like Dexter McCleon and Benny Sapp have to step up their game as well.

Hindsight is always 20/20. It's easy for you to nitpick about who Peterson signed that didn't pan out. Every teams fans can do that. But I'll tell you this much, I remember you on here chearing when Jerome Woods was re-signed.

We could've still signed Dyson after trading for Surtain, or we could've spent more draft picks on the CB position, instead of taking Long, Kilian, Svitek, and Crap.

And I don't think anyone should realistically expect McCleon to step up at this point in his career.

Don't know who you're confusing me with, but I can guarantee that you didn't see me cheering when Woods was re-signed.

You have to expect some players on your squad to step up their play. The season before last, McCleon was our most consistent CB, and had 6 INT's. I expect him to step up this season. BTW, the next best CB on the board (listed by many draft experts) after Alphonso Hodge was Justin Perkins. Do you know where he ended up? KC as an undrafted FA. This draft was not thick with quality CB's.

You can say what you want about the Jerome Woods comment. By am 1000% sure I heard you either say you were thrilled he re-signed, or were bitching because he hadn't re-signed (Prior to him re-signing).