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alanm 07-04-2005 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long
We no longer sell $5.00 aspirin. The vast majority of our oral meds are priced at roughy 10 cents a piece, regardless of what we pay for them, except Tylenol, which we give away for free at my hospital. They rape you on room and bed charges instead. :D

How bout if a patient just stays at the Holiday Inn nearby and has the Dr. come visit. I bet these days if a Dr. made house calls and advertised such he'd be flooded with patients. :hmmm:

alanm 07-04-2005 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
I agree, however, anybody that is not union can be fired for cause drugs or not.

Skip that usually only happens if someone comes to work loaded or has a accident on the job. In my book random tests would be against the 4th and 5th amendments as well.

alanm 07-04-2005 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long
That is horribly incorrect. Drugs bind to certain parts of your body, i.e. your hair follicles, and until that follicle falls out, you have traces of the drug "on you" as opposed to "in you."

You can beat hair follicle tests pretty easy as well these days. The "Beat the Tests" people are about 2 steps ahead of the drug testing people and always will be.

Skip Towne 07-04-2005 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm
How bout if a patient just stays at the Holiday Inn nearby and has the Dr. come visit. I bet these days if a Dr. made house calls and advertised such he'd be flooded with patients. :hmmm:

He would be swamped with patients. My dad was an MD in a small Kansas town during the '50's and early 60's. Office calls were $2 and house calls were $3. Oh, yeah, it killed him at the age of 46. Several heart attacks due to 18 hour days. The Dr. who took over his practice refused to make house calls and he is still alive today and is rich.

Skip Towne 07-04-2005 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long
I can also tell you that the cocaine I purchase is top grade. No one on the street has better snow white than I can buy.

You know this...........how? Cocaine is used in hospitals? For what?

KCChiefsMan 07-04-2005 11:18 PM

I worked at Sears once about 4-5 years ago. I had to go take a drug test right after they hired me and that was it

Skip Towne 07-04-2005 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan
I worked at Sears once about 4-5 years ago. I had to go take a drug test right after they hired me and that was it

I suppose that makes sense to somebody but it certainly doesn't to me.

Skip Towne 07-05-2005 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
Not only have I been tested, I've failed.

I did a fair amount of research on the subject back in college as I was partying a fair amount.

First, they don't actually test for the drug. They test for the metabolites... the substances produced when your body processes the drug. In the case of marijuana these are fat soluble, so they'll stick around longer than water soluble substances (like those produced by coke or meth). Of course, it's dependent on your body fat. I knew a girl in college that could be clean for a piss test within a few days of smoking due to her extremely low body fat. This knowledge in mind, my last semester of college I quit smoking pot. My consumption of cocaine, LSD, and psylocibin mushrooms, however, increased. As has been mentioned you can be clean for a piss test w/in a day or two of doing coke. Shrooms and acid have similar turnaround times and the added benefit of not being tested for as part of the majority of standard tests. I think I'd rather have an occassional pot smoker working for me than a regular user of acid, coke, and shrooms... but, hey.

IIRC, to be clean for a hair test, you'd have to not smoke pot for 2-3 months. I forget the timeframe for coke, it may have been similar, but the test was designed for coke and is most sensitive to it. When I was graduating college a majority of employers were just doing piss tests. Anheuser Busch does hair tests, though, so I know plenty of folks who've been hair tested.

My favorite research site back in the day was erowid.org. They've got everything from personal experience stories to links to documents on legitimate sites (DEA, FDA, etc). It's a nice spot to get a look at drug culture from a number of angles.

What happened when you failed the test? Re-test? Lots of screaming and hollering?

Lzen 07-05-2005 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
No. Apparently people don't mind hiring drugged-up market researchers.

Hmmm, this may explain a lot about you, Kevin. :p

StcChief 07-05-2005 08:50 AM

Contractors, always have to be ready for any new work.
Drug testing is a really has been for years now.

Skip Towne 07-05-2005 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nm_dbf
Contractors, always have to be ready for any new work.
Drug testing is a really has been for years now.

What kind of contracting do you do? The companies I contract to don't require it.

Brock 07-05-2005 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois
I think the hair folicle test will eventually replace the urine test. Urine tests are easier to tamper with, either through dilution, or substitution, or masking. And no one really likes to work with urine, if there is another way.


Suppose the guy has no hair. What will they do then?

Skip Towne 07-05-2005 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock
Suppose the guy has no hair. What will they do then?

I'd guess they would use a UA. It sure looks like the hair test would be more expensive than a UA since it has to be processed at a lab.

Brock 07-05-2005 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
I'd guess they would use a UA. It sure looks like the hair test would be more expensive than a UA since it has to be processed at a lab.

It is more expensive, but I think that is just because UA is the standard.

Thing is, the hair test will not show drug use in the days and weeks before the test. If they cut off a half inch of your hair, that's going to give them a snapshot of your drug use a month or longer ago. I think that is why UAs are prevalant and will probably continue to be so.

Skip Towne 07-05-2005 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock
It is more expensive, but I think that is just because UA is the standard.

Thing is, the hair test will not show drug use in the days and weeks before the test. If they cut off a half inch of your hair, that's going to give them a snapshot of your drug use a month or longer ago. I think that is why UAs are prevalant and will probably continue to be so.

Do they cut off the hair? Somebody said they needed the roots. :shrug:


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