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htismaqe 03-06-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull
First off, Htis, Im not assuming that there will be no cap. All I'm saying is, the current contracts that have been restructured, in addition to that, the current contracts that have been terminated have put us under the current cap(94.5mill). I mean that is the impression I'm getting after reading Merrill's article. She did say, that there woulda been no cuts Sunday regardless. So this has to mean that the Chiefs are under the current cap? right? I can't think of anything else?
:shrug:

So what Im saying, is, if they're under the cap already. Why not keep those contracts the same? If you have a new CBA reached, the new cap number is projected to rise another 10+ million. So why not sign a defensive player or 2?
You have the cap room to work with....this is what Im trying to get at.

The Chiefs are under the current cap WITH those restructured contracts, which haven't yet been sent to the league.

They're awaiting the outcome of the latest round of negotiations.

Chiefnj 03-06-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
The Chiefs are under the current cap WITH those restructured contracts, which haven't yet been sent to the league.

They're awaiting the outcome of the latest round of negotiations.

How do you know they haven't been sent to the league?

jspchief 03-06-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BSPimpDude
Exactly. We havent had any good drafts for defensive players in quite some time. Jared Allen is the only late round gem. Thats why it was so huge that DJ fell to us. I would have ran out in 3 seconds after it was our pick to draft him. I dont know why Carl Peterson took the entire 15 minutes of clock time.

Eddie Freeman - 2nd round draft pick to practice squad
Ryan Sims - 6th overall pick - hasnt lived up to potential by any means and can never stay healthy.
Junior Siavii - Why in the bloody hell would ANYONE waste a 2nd round pick on a "project" DT?!?! We even traded down for that pick did we not?
Kawika Mitchell - I would use him as an example but he finally produced last season.

All of these shitty draft picks along with unproven veteran bum players, I can totally see how this defense sucks year in and year out. No wonder we cant have any Dline penetration. These guys along with Hicks and Dalton get penetration as much as a 3 inch penis. You build a team through the draft. This is something we have not been able to do in the last decade. Hopefully Herm being a former scout, we can start drafting some players that can actually play football.

It's not just that we can't find stars in the draft. We can barely find role players.

We have a roster full of guys like Siavii and Wilson, who can barely get on the field. And we draft guys like Hodge and Thorpe that can't even contribute on special teams.

At least during the Vermeil era, it's like we were content drafting projects and letting them stagnate on the bench. We can't afford to wait until year 3 of a 4 year rookie contract to get return on the investment.

TEX 03-06-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
So if we traded for TO tommorrow, it would fall under the category of "standing pat"?

Or were we supposed to make John Tait the highest paid left tackle in the game, while playing him on the right side?

We went out ond filled our need for a right tackle via trade, but that trade meant signing a player to a new contract, just like is he was a free agent.

It goes back to what I've said before about '04. It's not that the team "didn't sign anyone". It's that the team didn't sign the guys you wanted.

No, it would not. I don't know where you got that T.O. analogy from. This is pretty straight forward. We went out and traded, meaning it cost us something other money which is all it takes to sign a free agent. A trade is a trade and acquiring a free agent is what it is. They are totally different ways of adding talent to the roster. That's all I'm saying.

Mecca 03-06-2006 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by coryt
I disagree with ya. I fully expect we'll pick up a CB on Day1 this year, and have Battle, Sapp, Hodge and rookie fight it out. All part of the youth movement.

I don't think any of the CB's on our current roster are capable of starting........Now if we draft Antonio Cromartie then that's fine.

htismaqe 03-06-2006 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX
I definately agree with you here as I'v e been making this case for 2 years now, but I believe the "different approach" the team took was hiring Gun.

And I FIRMLY believe that Gunther told Carl and Dick that he could win with his guys.

Gunther is THE reason we signed Hicks, Woods, and Wesley to big contracts after the 2003 season.

htismaqe 03-06-2006 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj
How do you know they haven't been sent to the league?

Because Carl said they haven't been sent to the league.

htismaqe 03-06-2006 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by coryt
Nor do we know what the longer term impact is from these restructured contracts, or if it has any impact whatso-freaking-ever on our FA activity.

I absolutely agree.

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Originally Posted by coryt
This has just turned into yet another Laz vs. htis cock fight. again...

Well, if he wasn't such an idiot...

:D

CoMoChief 03-06-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
It's not just that we can't find stars in the draft. We can barely find role players.

We have a roster full of guys like Siavii and Wilson, who can barely get on the field. And we draft guys like Hodge and Thorpe that can't even contribute on special teams.

At least during the Vermeil era, it's like we were content drafting projects and letting them stagnate on the bench. We can't afford to wait until year 3 of a 4 year rookie contract to get return on the investment.


Very True. BTW Congrats on 11,000 posts. :)

Mr. Laz 03-06-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Well, if he wasn't such an idiot... :D

:harumph:

if HE wasn't such a stubborn bastige









:moon:

Mr. Laz 03-06-2006 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
And I FIRMLY believe that Gunther told Carl and Dick that he could win with his guys.

Gunther is THE reason we signed Hicks, Woods, and Wesley to big contracts after the 2003 season.

and who's fault is it that the organization was stupid enough to let Goonther make the decisions?

RedThat 03-06-2006 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
No matter what the Chiefs are saying in the media...........they have to sign a corner. That might be the only thing they spend on but we're probably gonna end up with like Sam Madison seeing as he's probably not going to demand huge money and knows players on our team already.

It is believed, according to Adam Schefter, that the New Giants are expected to be serious contenders in the Sam Madison sweepstakes. I do agree, CB is a priority.

htismaqe 03-06-2006 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
and who's fault is it that the organization was stupid enough to let Goonther make the decisions?

Carl Delano Peterson.

Chiefnj 03-06-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Gunther is THE reason we signed Hicks, Woods, and Wesley to big contracts after the 2003 season.

And all three of them are still around for the 2006 campaign.

-meet the new boss, same as the old boss-

go bo 03-06-2006 01:40 PM

cb does seem to be a bit of a weakness on the defense right now, unless surtain can play both cb positions at the same time (then we could add an extra safety to help out wesley, or better yet another de to help hicks)...


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