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tk13 12-19-2006 01:16 PM

I agree that coming off a severe injury, and at Trent's age, we have to be careful to see if his production might decline.

That said, it's only been two bad games... against what are probably the best two teams in football, and maybe the best two defenses right now. I think people are throwing him under the bus WAYYYY too quickly.

klg61 12-19-2006 01:16 PM

i am hopeing that clark has a good vision for this team. and i hope that vision doesnt include carl peterson

Bwana 12-19-2006 01:17 PM

Sad, but true, good read. I am going to take a pass on NFL Sunday ticket next year as well. Until the management pulls its head out of its ass, it's not worth it to pay the extra money to watch ones team get spanked every week. I'll just listen to the games on the internet, or catch the ones that happen to be on TV in my area.

htismaqe 12-19-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by klg61
i am hopeing that clark has a good vision for this team. and i hope that vision doesnt include carl peterson

I have a feeling you're going to be hoping for at least 3 more years.

FringeNC 12-19-2006 01:18 PM

I really like Trent Green as a quarterback, but I think it may be time to just gut the offense. Do we really want to lock up Gonzalez to a huge long-term deal? Shields is about to retire. We have no tackles.

Trent is signed for next year, but I think there's a big escalation in his contract. Maybe we need to start over and suggest to Trent it'd be better for him to finish his career in Washington. They need a QB, and have a lot more weapons than we do on offense.

There's not going to be any re-loading on offense, because we have no one left that is competent of pulling it off.

klg61 12-19-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I have a feeling you're going to be hoping for at least 3 more years.


i am sure you are right. clark will let him stay while he has a contract.

Dave Lane 12-19-2006 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I think Clark is just like his dad. Lamar cleaned house ONCE in the franchise's history, and it took a decade of averaging 4 or 5 wins a season to get him to do it. Beyond that, the guy that oversaw the whole mess (Jack Steadman) was not only retained by the team, but he's in the RING OF FAME.

I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Carl get extended AGAIN, if that's what Carl wants. And if he decides to move on, a guy like Thum will take over.

God damn Parker you have just about broken the last of my morale!

Dave

Mr. Laz 12-19-2006 01:24 PM

Trent Green has never been one to throw well when he has to move.... not even moving just a few steps.

he needs to plant ... step ... throw or his accuracy goes to shit.

it's always been that way

Dave Lane 12-19-2006 01:24 PM

The saddest thing of all is what will this team be like next year. Gack it could get really ugly.

Dave

klg61 12-19-2006 01:27 PM

it is rebuilding time. alot of the defense is in place with the exception of needing a good dt. our offense needs the rebuilding now..

Chief Chief 12-19-2006 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
At least one of those passes you mentioned - the INT to Donnie Edwards - had nothing to do with Trent's accuracy.

This offense, as was the offense under Vermeil both here and in St. Louis, is predicated on "spots". The QB isn't necessarily throwing to a WR. He's throwing to a spot on the field where he expects the WR to be. It's a timing offense.

That being said, he hasn't been as accurate this season.

I hear what you're saying but the QB is still responsible to look at the "spots" before releasing the throw to ensure the pass won't get picked off. Therein lies another fault of Trent: He tends to lock onto (i.e., stare at) a receiver, thereby tipping the defense of where his pass will go.

Simplex3 12-19-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp
And if we did hit him hard enough to tick him off....he'd move the team.

So? If he isn't going to try and field a quality product then f**k them. I can tolerate trying and failing, but sitting on your thumb waiting for the check to come in doesn't fly with me.

Give me the deal Cleveland got. If Clark won't try and fix it then send this pile of crap to some other city and give me a new Chiefs.

htismaqe 12-19-2006 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
So? If he isn't going to try and field a quality product then f**k them. I can tolerate trying and failing, but sitting on your thumb waiting for the check to come in doesn't fly with me.

Give me the deal Cleveland got. If Clark won't try and fix it then send this pile of crap to some other city and give me a new Chiefs.

The deal that Cleveland got isn't gonna happen. There won't ever be more than 32 teams in the NFL.

If we lose our team, it's likely we'll never get another. Maybe we could get the Vikings and play in the NFC North? :evil:

Simplex3 12-19-2006 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
The deal that Cleveland got isn't gonna happen. There won't ever be more than 32 teams in the NFL.

If we lose our team, it's likely we'll never get another. Maybe we could get the Vikings and play in the NFC North? :evil:

That would rule.

How do we get this done? Even "Timmay!!" could win in that freaking division.

Pitt Gorilla 12-19-2006 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane
The saddest thing of all is what will this team be like next year. Gack it could get really ugly.

Dave

It needs to get "ugly." This team needs retooled with a longer term vision, and not trying to win next year.


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