No question, very small sample size though of 2 a long time apart. Only one of those drafts did the Chiefs get to pick all the way through the draft that high.

I would offer San Diego as an example, a lot of talent from strong drafts in an early position.

I'm with ya, I just used that as an example. But keep in mind that San Diego hadn't done nearly as well in the draft before the hiring of A.J. Smith. The trades and talent evaluation have pretty much been second to none, even the Ravens since he's taken over.

It seems that very, very few people can truly evaluate college players consistently and accurately. And I think that we can all agree that CP isn't in that category.

Many people on here, that know more than I about the draft, say it is still a crap shoot. However, I think your odds of success sure improve with draft position. I am sure somewhere must be a statistic that shows it.
That being said, Carl has crapped out a lot on some of his reaches. I personaly am gun shy of him ever drafting another DT.

You SHOULD have talent. High draft picks don't always translate into talent. See Ryan Sims. Not only that, but high draft picks are almost always more raw potential than game-ready talent.

The point remains:

The Chiefs are a more talented team, top to bottom than the Titans. The difference is coaching.

You missed Joe Horn.

He pointed it out.

You jumped all over him for "defending Carl".

Get over it, you f-ed up.

Actually, he jumped all over me for defending Carl after;

He stated "[we] have had exactly TWO players leave in the last 10 years that actually made an impact on their new teams."

then I listed some other people who left and made an impact on other teams

then he started in the with "x wasn't drafted, y wasn't a pro-bowler, z likes kiddie porn."

So I replied "whatever"

Also, I think people are forgetting that some of our non-existant/poor draft picks were actually our little way of 'drafting' DV, Trent, Roaf, Herm, etc.

Excellent point, I think the Chiefs gave a 3rd for Welbourn right?

Will Law be back next year?

And the Jets would be a better team with John Abraham and Kevin Mawae right now.

Are you crazy??

How??
He's always hurt..ALWAYS
Abraham has only played in 3 games this year..and he has a broken hand now..BTW..Abraham is a useless piece of shit that missed 3 playoff games..1 with a tummy ache,and the other 2 because he wanted his big pay day the following year and didn't want to ''hurt himself''..and Mangold is better than Mawae right now..

MAngold has played well, but I don't believe he's better than Mawae. If Herm was the coach this year, Mangold would probably start at guard and the top 5 pick Ferguson would obviously start at tackle.

John Abraham is always hurt - it's true. But getting 12 games a year (which I know he has not given this year) is still plenty from him. He single handedly won a lot of games for the Jets over the years with 4th quarter strip sacks. Bryan Thomas is most definitely not that level of player.

Don't kid yourself too much about the Jets. Mangini and Schottenheimer have done a nice job, but they're where they are because of their schedule. They started out the year playing a team (the Titans) who were starting a QB who arrived in town less than a week earlier (Kerry Collins). They got to play the Browns, Texans, Raiders, Packers, Vikings, and Lions. Their Patriot win was good, but remember, the Lions also almost won in Foxboro during the period the Jets won that game.

I think the real problem with Ty Law in KC is that he has worn the same # that you know who wore...

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/player...iam_bartee.jpg

Wrong..because if the Jets keep Abraham..there is no number 1 pick to chose Mangold with

Playing a team scheme defense has more than made up for the loss of Abraham..and Bryan Thomas is an important part of that puzzle

Please..there are alot of teams that have had easy schedules just like the Jets..but have not won their fair share of games..the coaching difference is night and day..do you know that the Jets get to the line of scrimmage on EVERY PLAY with at least 17 seconds on the play clock..even without the no huddle they employ..in the past,they would mope on up to the line of scrimmage taking their time(even when they were behind late in games) and wait until 1 second was left on the play clock and often waste a time out(sound familiar?)..there is a sense of urgency now.

Pennington sucks..he can not stretch the field..the Jets are a perfect example of a conservative offense that is unpredictable..and it has been working.

Oh..one more thing..this is the strength of schedule as of today.. ;)

SOS for the AFC East

Buffalo------- .556
Miami-------- .515
NYJ--------- .510
NE---------- .505

Ty has done his best to look like Dexter this year-hopefully we will cut are losses and we will never have to hear his name again. Go count your money d#ckhead.