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I'm not against trading JA or keeping him, but I did want to point out to the people saying he's just OK because of sack numbers that PERHAPS his numbers are low because the Chiefs DTs constantly SUCKED.

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Originally Posted by SNR

That's like saying you wouldn't blame Ryan Sims for going into Carl's office and demanding more money

Sims couldn't make it past the candy bowl on the receptionist desk.

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Originally Posted by trndobrd

Sims couldn't make it past the candy bowl on the receptionist desk.

nice.

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

I'm not saying anything bad about Hali. I love Hali.

But let's not overreact and create a mob scene to trade Jared because he's doing the whole agent/contract thing.

How about lets not forget about the whole DUI/suspension thing when the thought of trading him for 1st day picks is concerned. I love the way he plays and believe his attitude in the lockeroom is good for team chemistry minus the DUI's. It's going to be hard to give him the contract he wants being only 1 mess up away from a year suspension. Plus his Agent is an unknown guy who is going to try to make a name for himself with this contract. That doesn't bode well for us either.

When the Allen wants traded article first came out in the star a month or so ago, Petersons response was not wanting to trade him and he was asking for too much money.

With Allen's recent off the field problems, he's in no position to be making any demands.

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Originally Posted by trndobrd

Sims couldn't make it past the candy bowl on the receptionist desk.

Why would he want to? If he eats 72 oz. in one sitting he gets a t-shirt.

The crazy country boy with a wild hair across his ass will play well with fans in Atlanta. I'm surprised he doesn't have a massive following here

Boomer will be pissed.

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Originally Posted by booger

Boomer will be pissed.

I hope he doesn't hold out, too.

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

We talk about the guy like he's Shawne Merriman.

He's not. He's had 9, 11 and 7.5 sacks. Hate to break it to both Jared and the folks in KC, but that's really nothing special. His average production amounts to what would be an off year for a good pass rusher. His production dictates that he's, so far, nothing more than a mediocre player who happens to be a fan favorite on a defense that's been historically bad for years. And now he's having repeat legal troubles and playing the vocal and disgruntled stuff in the media.

If I'm the gm, I shop him. He doesn't deserve a big contract at this point. If Allen homers want to say he's earned it on the field (which I don't believe - he's earned a mid-level contract), I'd counter by saying he lost that right by his behavior off of it. He's got to prove he can stay clean and be a team player, as well as perform like a guy who moves mountains, before I make that kind of investment. It just wouldn't be a smart move in my book. Let some other team take that risk and deal with his bullshit.

To be fair, Merriman has a lot more talent around him than Allen does. With a superior supporting cast Allen might legitmately be considered one of the best DEs.

Personally, I hope Allen stays but I would consider a trade if the compensation were enough.

This is all posturing. And the trading, if it does take place, will be during the draft days. He is strong bait if KC wants to move up somewhere. And he can't afford to slack off this year when he does play after 4 games because he wants that good contract as a totally free agent if it came to that. No sweat yet.

He can't be traded unless he has a contract. The most that can happen at this point is if ATL makes an offer and we don't match it.

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

I hope he doesn't hold out, too.

Boomer need to just learn to play FB and wait his turn for a holdout.

Some of the comparisons people are making are stupid. Comparing to OLB's in 3-4 defenses? Allen has done an amazing job for a small school prospect that has had zero help on the DL for his first two years and partial help this last year at the other DE position. And yes I say partial because Hali got dinged and clearly hit the rookie wall and wasn't nearly as consistent as Allen was.

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Originally Posted by el borracho

To be fair, Merriman has a lot more talent around him than Allen does. With a superior supporting cast Allen might legitmately be considered one of the best DEs.

I agree. Give him a year with a solid DT and see what his numbers are. It's not like he's earning those stats people are posting with all-world tackles playing next to him.

And the Atlanta trade stuff is brought up more on KC boards than it seems to be talked about on Falcons' boards. Do they seriously have an interest in giving up some high picks for him?