I always liked Imus. And, I'll tell you why.

He reminds me of the men I grew up around in the midwest. Tough, outspoken, no-bullshit people who call it like it is. I've mentioned this in another thread, but I'll repeat the point since I, apparently, have little better to do.

I see people like Imus and other comedians of the same ilk the way I view the court jesters and fools from the Middle Ages. Fools played an important cultural role in their ability to say anything about anybody with impunity. They were unique, for example, in that they could make fun of Royals without fear of punishment. This is an important role of humor or comedy as it serves as a way to expose societal truth, values, and unspoken knowledge in the guise of amusement.

Shutting down our fools is shutting down our ability to laugh at our common pain which is vital to cultural healing.

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To sum it up... Imus said something completely moronic and racially charged, in a public forum, about a specific group of young women who are mostly black.

In my opinion, it was more sexist than racist, but either way it was stupid. He was suspended which was fitting (again, in my opinion) Then Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton started a crusade, and he lost his show.

The issue (for most) is how these two men who seem want to represent black America can be so outraged by what Imus said, while ignoring similar slurs and insults in hip-hop music.

Personally, I don't have a problem with Imus being fired. He worked for a company, and he cost that company money when sponsors like GM pulled out. That's economics. It's the way our world works.

But... don't do it because tools like Sharpton and Jackson threw a bitch fit.

between the Sharpton/Jackson BS hypocrite about this.
The "wreck" of the NJ govenor trying to get photo op....

The basketball team. Nappy or not....sounded "genuine".....

I imagine Imus will be in for a nice vacation from work.
and likely not miss it.

His choice to come back somewhere else later in life.

This makes me wonder, Mr. KcMizzou. We are all aware by now that our country has been run by and through the Skull and Bones society for many decades.

Do we know, however, if there is an African American version of Skull and Bones? And, if so, are they fueling these actions?

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Don Imus and his racial slur have context. Violence does not nor did not associate with Don Imus towards these black women.

On the other hand, rap music has been and is being used as an expression and extension of hatred, violence and senseless murder. Not only against women, but women and children, innocent bystanders and rival black men. This problem is becoming a blight within our communities, our schools, and our military. Look no further than what this board is based upon. NFL culture. The violence and killing must stop. The comparison of this ‘Imus’ event and what is reality with a dysfunctional black culture is shameful. Imus deserved what he got. Gangsta rap needs a serious war waged against it as well.

That's a fair criticism.

I should have focused as much on other aspects of culture. However, with Sharpton and Jackson leading the charge...THEIR hypocrisy on the issue is more apparent in the hip-hop/rap scene, from where I'm sitting. So that's what I've been zeroed in on. FWIW, I do think it's a much broader issue.

You GO, girl! PBJ PBJ PBJ

[Verse 1:]
Baby look, I'm tied up tryin'
To convince you that I aint caught up lyin'
When she walked past me I looked, so what, big deal
I don't understand how that can make you feel
That my love ain't for real

Every day I thank the lord above that you're with me
Tell me why would I throw that away
What can I do to prove, that this is where I wanna be
So I may look occasionally
You're the only one I need

[Chorus:]
If I wanted (that girl)
Then I would be with (that girl)
But that one ain't for me
She's fine as hell
But she'll always be (that girl)
Nothin' more than (that girl)
No matter what she do
She don't' compare to you

[Verse 2:]
What you yellin' for, why you screamin'
Girl you act as if you just caught me cheatin'
When you look at other men, and don't act like you don't
I don't' trip because I know that I'm the guy
That you come home to every night

Every day I thank the lord above that you're with me
Tell me why would I throw that away
What can I do to prove, that this is where I wanna be
So I may look occasionally
You're the only one I need

[Chorus:]
If I wanted (that girl)
Then I would be with (that girl)
But that one ain't for me
She's fine as hell
But she'll always be (that girl)
Nothin' more than (that girl)
No matter what she do
She don't' compare to you

[Rap:]
I must admit it
Sometimes im weak
You don't wanna hear the truth
Don't ask me to speak
Understand
Im not the type to cheat
Im not a dog on the real
Sometimes yeah I feel the heat
But im a son of god
So I can show dat
You know dat
You can write it down
Take a picture with Kodak
You and me more than a physical thing
You da queen im the lord of da ring
Meaning that im tryin
Say, what we got can never be broken
I know these fans are women
They be wishin and hopein
Tryin to blow my spot up
Like they Bin Laden
You can tell them now
Girl it will never happen
I know they checkin for a brotha
Cuz he rappin
When he hit the club
All the owners show him dap and
Signin autographs and such
But you don't see him when
Them girls press up
He be like do not touch
OK

[Verse 3:]
I know I need you right here with me
Your why, know I need you
No other girl will do, 'cuz I need you
Right here with me, know I need you

[Chorus:]
Then I would be with (that girl)
But that one ain't for me (hey)
She's fine as hell
But she'll always be (that girl)
And nothin' more than (that girl)
No matter what she do
She don't' compare to you

[Chorus:]
All I'm sayin' if I wanted (that girl)
Then I would be with (that girl)
But that one ain't for me
She's fine as hell
But she'll always be (that girl)
Nothin' more than (that girl)
No matter what she do
She don't' compare to you

[Chorus:]
If I wanted (that girl)
Then I would be with (that girl)
But that one ain't for me
She's fine as hell
But she'll always be (that girl)
Nothin' more than (that girl)
No matter what she do
She just can't be you, baby

I believe you're a fan of some rap, and hip-hop, correct? We've discussed music in the past.

I only point it out, because I don't think you have an agenda. Just a good point.

I own some: A.D., LL Cool J, Beastie Boys, Eminem, Nelly, 311 (if you want to call them "rap"--I don't,) BEPs, Outkast, and selected singles from others....yeah.

Thanks, Brandon. I've mentioned it other threads....I even "LIKE" some of the more "offensive" stuff; of course I don't always pay attention to the lyrics as much as the groove. Of course, that's a point that those who would say we are "over-reacting" to this....might make; and it's a fair one.

I just think it's very interesting; and worth talking about.

You make very good points, I agree with you after reading up on it. Why is it ok that a black person says similar stuff, but when a white person says it, it's racist? I've never really understood that.

Holy ****. Yes.

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Again, you are trying to substantiate using a racial slur. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO USES IT. IT IS WRONG. DON'T EFFING USE IT. Clear enough?

That has to be hands down the best post I have ever seen you make. Rep.

Funny, I was thinking the EXACT same thing. :)