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JohnnyV13 04-13-2007 06:51 PM

Honestly,

I think OL is the biggest need, then DT then WR then CB. I would not be unhappy if we picked Joe Staley in the first. Then McIntosh could eventually move to RT.

I also would not be unhappy with Justin Harrell or Dwayne Bowe or Robert Meachem, even though there are a lot of promising althetes at WR down in the draft.

At CB I like Daymeion Hughes in later rounds, especially since we run a cover 2.

Tribal Warfare 04-13-2007 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13
Honestly,

I think OL is the biggest need, then DT then WR then CB. I would not be unhappy if we picked Joe Staley in the first. Then McIntosh could eventually move to RT.


1st, I'd be hella pissed for that reach since in the 3rd round round one could still get Ryan Harris or Tony Ugoh, and my second point is CXhris Terry is playing RT this year and is very sufficient at that spot.

BigChiefFan 04-13-2007 07:48 PM

Hannon and Webb are a joke. Herm really needs to leave the offense to those that know what an NFL WR is. We need a WR. We've needed one since Joe Horn left. How long has that been? The Chiefs fall into the same trap year after year it seems.

Sully 04-13-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
Herm really needs to leave the offense to those that know what an NFL WR is.

You mean like...Herm?

I'm ready to bash Herm as much as the next guy... but he has drafted some pretty good receivers in his career. I think he knows talent when he sees it.

BigChiefFan 04-13-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully
You mean like...Herm?

I'm ready to bash Herm as much as the next guy... but he has drafted some pretty good receivers in his career. I think he knows talent when he sees it.

We'll soon see as to whether or not his comments about Hannon and Webb are true, by what we do in the draft. If we draft a 1st day WR, I think we know what he truly felt. I think his comments do two things. Give "his" guys confidence and also works as a smokescreen to other teams about our plans in the upcoming draft.

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2007 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
We'll soon see as to whether or not his comments about Hannon and Webb are true, by what we do in the draft. If we draft a 1st day WR, I think we know what he truly felt. I think his comments do two things. Give "his" guys confidence and also works as a smokescreen to other teams about our plans in the upcoming draft.

Or, come draft day, the BPA is a WR.

I guess that says a lot.....


:rolleyes:

Mr. Laz 04-14-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
How long are we gonna bitch about past drafts?

We got a new coach last year, and happened to have the best draft in recent memory. Until Herm fires off a Vermeil-like run of 3-4 shitty drafts, I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.

until we start drafting better

OnTheWarpath15 04-14-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz
until we start drafting better


We did start drafting better. I'm not gonna hold Herm accountable for DV's bad drafting.

Herm's batting 1.000, as far as I'm concerned. Like I said earlier, until Herm fires off a Vermeil-like run of 3-4 shitty drafts, I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.

Mr. Laz 04-14-2007 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
We did start drafting better. I'm not gonna hold Herm accountable for DV's bad drafting.

Herm's batting 1.000, as far as I'm concerned. Like I said earlier, until Herm fires off a Vermeil-like run of 3-4 shitty drafts, I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.

and i'm not gonna give the Chiefs a pass after 1 "non-sucky" draft.


if they continue to draft better, people will stop talking about it. Just like people will stop talking about them failing to win a playoff game in 13 years as soon as they start winning.

pretty simple

OnTheWarpath15 04-14-2007 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz
and i'm not gonna give the Chiefs a pass after 1 "non-sucky" draft.


if they continue to draft better, people will stop talking about it. Just like people will stop talking about them failing to win a playoff game in 13 years as soon as they start winning.

pretty simple

Your prerogative.

Seeing such an immediate improvement on draft day last year, after so many poor drafts, speaks volumes to me. Not to you. Fair enough.

Chiefnj2 04-14-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
Your prerogative.

Seeing such an immediate improvement on draft day last year, after so many poor drafts, speaks volumes to me. Not to you. Fair enough.

Where was this huge immediate improvement in the draft?

The mid first round pick started, which is good - but expected. Other than that there were only 3 starts from all the rest and the biggest impact from a 7th rounder. 2-6 were kind of busts for the first year.

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2
Where was this huge immediate improvement in the draft?

The mid first round pick started, which is good - but expected. Other than that there were only 3 starts from all the rest and the biggest impact from a 7th rounder. 2-6 were kind of busts for the first year.


yeah, but two to four more picks from last year will start in their second year, and you call that a bust?

Mr. Laz 04-14-2007 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
Your prerogative.

Seeing such an immediate improvement on draft day last year, after so many poor drafts, speaks volumes to me. Not to you. Fair enough.

i'm glad we showed improvement last year ..... i hope it continues.


consider me in "show me" mode

OnTheWarpath15 04-14-2007 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2
Where was this huge immediate improvement in the draft?

The mid first round pick started, which is good - but expected. Other than that there were only 3 starts from all the rest and the biggest impact from a 7th rounder. 2-6 were kind of busts for the first year.

Hali was a stud. Plain and simple.

Pollard was a special teams stud. 3 blocked kicks, a TD and numerous big hits/tackles on ST. He'll be a starter in this 2nd year.

Croyle: We all knew he wouldn't be a factor until this year at the earliest, possibly 08. He was a steal in R3.

No R4 pick.

Maxey appears to be the lone bust of the group. We'll know more after camp.

Stallings: Where exactly was he gonna play? Ahead of a pair of Pro Bowlers?

Webb: Herm has already said he'll likely start in 07

Page: A R7 pick who most thought wouldn't even make the team. How many rookies can say they baited the great Peyton Manning into throwing a pick in a playoff game? Another starter in 07.



Go back at DV's drafts and show me a year where more than 2 solid picks were made, much less 3-5.

bdeg 04-14-2007 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2
Where was this huge immediate improvement in the draft?

The mid first round pick started, which is good - but expected. Other than that there were only 3 starts from all the rest and the biggest impact from a 7th rounder. 2-6 were kind of busts for the first year.

I'm not sure how you think this works, but players drafted in the later rounds don't usually start their rookie year. Those are players that you hope you can eventually develop into starters. Or in some cases the most you can expect is a quality backup.

The only pick that I would say was "bad" would be Marcus Maxey.

We will probably have 5 starters next year from that draft. That's awesome.


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