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El Jefe 04-22-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 4700271)
Did Allen get to play against Kent State, Youngstown , Akron and the Golden Gophers?
Gholston isn't consistent enough to be considered with a top 5 pick as a 4-3 DE.

What a smartass. It's always fun when idiot's like yourself start saying stupid crap like "JA would dominate that College schedule". Well I would hope that he would considering he is in the NFL.:rolleyes:

DaKCMan AP 04-22-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 4700303)
I never guranteed anything, I said I thought they would win, and we got beat both times, and it sucked, and you move on. Well at least I can always take pleasure in knowing you were the idiot who guranteed that Michigan wouldn't beat Florida, and what ended up happening in that game? Mr. Heisman wasn't doing to well on his back, and old Percy was puking his guts up because he was so exhausted, but thats not because the Big 10 has any speed, because we all know that the Big 10 cant hang with SEC Speed :rolleyes:. No, you think you know everything about anything, and you strut around her like a rooster with his feathers out, trying to get everyone to aknowledge how brilliant and smart you are. Your not impressing many people around here. ROFL

LMAO I love to gurantee things, strut around her and get aknowledged.

I do appreciate you noticing how brilliant and smart I am.

Chiefnj2 04-22-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 4700312)
What a smartass. It's always fun when idiot's like yourself start saying stupid crap like "JA would dominate that College schedule". Well I would hope that he would considering he is in the NFL.:rolleyes:

So what is your excuse for why Gholston couldn't dominate poor teams (and good teams like LSU)?

bkkcoh 04-23-2008 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 4700312)
What a smartass. It's always fun when idiot's like yourself start saying stupid crap like "JA would dominate that College schedule". Well I would hope that he would considering he is in the NFL.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 4700343)
So what is your excuse for why Gholston couldn't dominate poor teams (and good teams like LSU)?

Well???

bkkcoh 04-24-2008 08:36 AM

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Overrated: Vernon Gholston, Ohio State

A) I couldn't find a pure linebacker I thought was overrated, but some are projecting Gholston to play such in a 3-4. B) I've never understood all the fuss over this guy. I've watched a lot of Ohio State games over the past two years and only once did I see him truly dominate a contest. That was last year's Michigan game, when he had three sacks. (He did have four sacks against Wisconsin, but that game was on the Big Ten Network, so I can't be sure it actually took place.) Most notably, Gholston was a non-factor in both of the Buckeyes' BCS title-game appearances the past two seasons (against Florida in 2006 and LSU in '07). What am I missing here?


Sure-Oz 04-24-2008 08:39 AM

Wasn't ghostlon double teamed at times too? I still think he can be a hell of a player and wouldnt bitch if we got him...esp if long and dorsey are not there. I wouldnt mind ellis either

Tribal Warfare 04-24-2008 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4705475)
Wasn't ghostlon double teamed at times too? I still think he can be a hell of a player and wouldnt bitch if we got him...esp if long and dorsey are not there. I wouldnt mind ellis either


IMO KC is targeting DE Brian Johnston in the later rounds, so a possible trade down with the Jets/Pats would be feasible to to select Ellis

Sure-Oz 04-24-2008 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 4705483)
IMO KC is targeting DE Brian Johnston in the later rounds, so a possible trade down with the Jets/Pats would be feasible to to select Ellis

Whatever is best for the team, but i like Gholstons physical tools and potential as well, but ive all along leaned toward ellis since i didnt think we'd grab dorsey or long..

I am pretty excited to see how everything plays out

DaKCMan AP 04-24-2008 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 4705483)
IMO KC is targeting DE Brian Johnston in the later rounds, so a possible trade down with the Jets/Pats would be feasible to to select Ellis

I'd love to get Johnston sometime on the 2nd day.

Chiefnj2 04-24-2008 08:50 AM

IMHO, a 4-3 team will be better off with Harvey than Gholston. Gholston is a top 15 pick because of his workouts, not because of game film.

El Jefe 04-24-2008 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bkkcoh (Post 4702277)
Well???

Well what? You can make an excuse for anything. I could say well he didn't dominate because he was just one piece of the best defense in the country last year. Rated either first or second in 11 defensive categories, he played with arguably the best LB and CB in the country. He played on a line that was very deep, and our defense was very good at stopping the run. Did you even watch the BCS, Gholston pressured Flynn all night and was double teamed all night as well. Like I previously stated Flynn did a heck of a job avoiding sacks and getting rid of the ball. So since Dorsey didn't dominate the BCS game either should we not pick him because he didn't have 20 tackles and 10 sacks like you think anyone buddy who is good on the line should get?

You were border line lame with half of the stuff you posted earlier in this thread, and now your just lame. We get the point you don't like Gholston and think he is very overrated, you said what you thought, and everyone knows what you think. So now if you could do us a favor and shut up about it, you would be a lot less annoying.

Sure-Oz 04-24-2008 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4705493)
I'd love to get Johnston sometime on the 2nd day.

Who is this johnston guy? What round is he probably going to get picked

Tribal Warfare 04-24-2008 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4705507)
Who is this johnston guy? What round is he probably going to get picked



http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=182224

El Jefe 04-24-2008 09:01 AM

[QUOTE=Chiefnj2;4705503]IMHO, a 4-3 team will be better off with Harvey than Gholston. Gholston is a top 15 pick because of his workouts, not because of game film.[/QUOTE]

So his two sacks on Jake Long where he just destroyed Long really doesn't matter, I mean Jake long isn't very good right? Every one of his knocks have been posted in this thread about 10 times over. You can find negatives on any player out there. You act as if Gholston was some scrub who just went to the combine put up some good numbers and vaulted himself in the first round. If you didn't hear Gholstons name throughout the season then you either dont watch college football or dont listen to any talk radio. He isnt some flash in the pan.

El Jefe 04-24-2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4705493)
I'd love to get Johnston sometime on the 2nd day.

Likewise, he would be a pretty good pickup.


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