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beach tribe 05-26-2008 08:40 PM

I have to go on record, and say that I think Atlanta has made a huge mistake.

Trying to recover from this Mike Vick crap has really caused this organization to make some bad moves. Passing on Dorsey, for what I predict will be a huge bust in Ryan, and then paying him Manning money. Unbelievable.

I think this will set them back for many years.....**** em. Thanks for Dorsey dumbasses.

SBK 05-26-2008 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 4768789)
I have to go on record, and say that I think Atlanta has made a huge mistake.

Trying to recover from this Mike Vick crap has really caused this organization to make some bad moves. Passing on Dorsey, for what I predict will be a huge bust in Ryan, and then paying him Manning money. Unbelievable.

I think this will set them back for many years.....**** em. Thanks for Dorsey dumbasses.

I was at Wal-Mart the other day here in Atlanta and they are already selling Matt Ryan Falcons shirts there. I know what you're thinking, no big deal......

These shirts have a sweaty Matt Ryan with his black eye stripes holding his shoulder pads, similar to what you'd see during a game from the sidelines---in his Falcons uniform. Poor guy is already being touted as the face of the franchise and he's not even taken a training camp snap. :LOL:

Rausch 05-26-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 4768789)
I have to go on record, and say that I think Atlanta has made a huge mistake.

Trying to recover from this Mike Vick crap has really caused this organization to make some bad moves. Passing on Dorsey, for what I predict will be a huge bust in Ryan, and then paying him Manning money. Unbelievable.

I think this will set them back for many years.....**** em. Thanks for Dorsey dumbasses.

The Dorsey pick looks better and better as time passes...

chiefs1111 05-26-2008 10:29 PM

I was listening to espn or maybe it was the nfl network the other day and they said that i first salary cap in 93 was 34 million dollars, which is the amount of Ryan's bonus today..... Just blows my mind

blueballs 05-26-2008 10:37 PM

Sims can by Krispie Kreams for decades
Ryan can by Kripie KReam franchies for decades

HMc 05-26-2008 10:45 PM

A rookie cap would be about as pointless as the current one.

They need a rookie pay scale, ala the nba.

It's about the only thing the NBA does right

Coach 05-26-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 4769038)
A rookie cap would be about as pointless as the current one.

They need a rookie pay scale, ala the nba.

It's about the only thing the NBA does right

I agree as well.

Mecca 05-27-2008 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 4769019)
I was listening to espn or maybe it was the nfl network the other day and they said that i first salary cap in 93 was 34 million dollars, which is the amount of Ryan's bonus today..... Just blows my mind

That should tell you how much more money the league makes today and how much more it is worth in general.

Also they'll never have a scale that even comes close to looking like the NBA scale. The most a rookie in the NBA can make is 3 mill, considering how much more important the draft is to the NFL than any other sport I don't see it looking anything like that.

HMc 05-27-2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4769126)
That should tell you how much more money the league makes today and how much more it is worth in general.

Also they'll never have a scale that even comes close to looking like the NBA scale. The most a rookie in the NBA can make is 3 mill, considering how much more important the draft is to the NFL than any other sport I don't see it looking anything like that.

Generally i like your takes but no one has suggested the scale would be using the same numbers as the NBA, and you're being reeruned ust bringing it up.

chiefs1111 05-27-2008 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4769126)
That should tell you how much more money the league makes today and how much more it is worth in general.

Also they'll never have a scale that even comes close to looking like the NBA scale. The most a rookie in the NBA can make is 3 mill, considering how much more important the draft is to the NFL than any other sport I don't see it looking anything like that.

What do you think the scale would be if they got a rookie cap?????

Mecca 05-27-2008 01:45 AM

See that's where it becomes an issue, players are going to want shorter contracts to agree to having less money be in it for rookies.

You'll then end up in a spot where guys drafted after the first 2 rounds may only be on 1 or 2 year deals.

HMc 05-27-2008 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4769173)
See that's where it becomes an issue, players are going to want shorter contracts to agree to having less money be in it for rookies.

You'll then end up in a spot where guys drafted after the first 2 rounds may only be on 1 or 2 year deals.

So what? It's not like the NFL has to compete for talent, players arent going to run for the CFL becuase they're only getting 2 year deals in the NFL.

Normal people don't have job security that lasts more than 2 years.

Mecca 05-27-2008 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 4769182)
So what? It's not like the NFL has to compete for talent, players arent going to run for the CFL becuase they're only getting 2 year deals in the NFL.

Normal people don't have job security that lasts more than 2 years.

It would actually penalize a team that drafts really well later in the draft, they wouldn't have good players tied up to small money for any period of time.

Also it would kill team depth, a player that was drafted to start in a year or 2 could bolt on you.

HMc 05-27-2008 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4769193)
It would actually penalize a team that drafts really well later in the draft, they wouldn't have good players tied up to small money for any period of time.

Also it would kill team depth, a player that was drafted to start in a year or 2 could bolt on you.

So you make rookie contracts 4 year minimums? Like I said, th players only have market power IF YOU GIVE IT TO THEM.

You're acting like this isn't feasible, which is silly, and you think you probably know that.

Mecca 05-27-2008 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc (Post 4769211)
So you make rookie contracts 4 year minimums? Like I said, th players only have market power IF YOU GIVE IT TO THEM.

You're acting like this isn't feasible, which is silly, and you think you probably know that.

I'm just saying you'll have to give up something to get something, in order to lower rookie pay you'll almost certainly have to give up the amount of years those players can be signed to.


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