Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5049105)

Doug Flutie

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5049099)

Height is overrated. Just give me a guy who can play.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049079)

LOL in fairness here, Tebow has a strong arm, a huge body and great height, and very good mobility. He just needs to have his throwing mechanics completely changed and be given time to learn to play in a pro style system.

He's a long term project but he does have a ton of natural ability.

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049104)

We've been over this before: The biggest stat that correlates with NFL success is completion percentage.

This year, Sam Bradford has completed 79% of his passes, including against a tough Cinci D. Further, we will get to see him against: Kansas, Texas Tech, Texas, TCU and likely Missouri (Big 12 Championship). Other notable teams: K-State, A&M, and Oklahoma State.

The big knock on Bradford to date has been his arm strength and velocity. However, he has actually improved over the last year in that regard. He will probably never be a gunslinger, like a Stafford. But he can put the ball 50-60 yards down the field with perfect accuracy.

Also, since that second video that has you so concerned mecca, he has put on 8-10 pounds. That was just over a year ago.

For those that are comparing Stafford to Palmer: Stafford isn't even close to as accurate. That is my really big knock on him. Nearly every time Stafford throws the ball, you know his receiver is going to have to adjust to it and won't get any YAC. I would much rather have someone with the pinpoint accuracy Bradford is displaying than a gunslinger.

JMO.

Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 5049115)

Drafting another QB means another 2 to 3 years of ugly games .. but its the only way to completely rebuild ... Croyle is too brittle ... I like the two kids from here KUs & MUs QBs...

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5049107)

A closer comparison would be Drew Brees.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5049089)

Matter of opinion.

He had a couple of big years, and the rest of his career could be best described as productive, but watching him, I just never thought he was anything to write home about. .

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049072)

It's actually something they took from a thing called the Lewin projection system,The idea is hinged on the assumption that with sufficient game film, scouts can accurately determine weather or not a player has the capacity to be an early round pick. So games started becomes a big factor. Players who start relatively few games tend to have their stock skewed upwards because the scouts haven't seen as much on them, so they get sold on "Upside". This along with completion percentage goes into the projection.

The result is a system that accurately predicted that Peyton Manning would be great, and that Ryan Leaf would be a failure. It's been pretty accurate for the most part.

If you pull up freshman and sophomore stats Stafford's are pretty right in line with Jay Cutler and Carson Palmer.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049127)

IIRC he was Co-MVP and a blown coverage away from a SB ring.

It's nothing compared to the last 12 KC QB's but it's something...

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5049126)

Drew Brees is actually a full 6' tall, and he is an anomaly.

I'd be surprised if Daniel measures taller than 5' 10" when the NFL measures him.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049142)

Ok, explain to me again why 2-4 inches can make or break a (non-porn) career.

Then explain why mobility can't overcome that.

And FTR I'm not saying I want us to draft him, only that it's a measurable like a sub-par 40 time...

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5049140)

As I said, he had a couple of good years.

The rest, he was Ok.
But not great.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049127)

IIRC he was Co-MVP and a blown coverage away from a SB ring.

It's nothing compared to the last 12 KC QB's but it's something...