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MIAdragon 10-10-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 5101919)
According to Glazer, Gonzo's worth a 2nd and a 5th.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...-be-a-bad-idea

Id be stoked if it went down like that.

Demonpenz 10-10-2008 03:13 PM

gonzo is worth alot more on a good team where he can stretch the field with our offense we mine as well not have anyone running routes

DeezNutz 10-10-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5101917)
I could care less about the PR hit. If people don't like it, don't ****ing watch the team. Simple as that.

But considering the team's he'd likely be dealt to, that 3rd round pick is almost a 4th - they'll be picking in the last quarter of the round.

Good point about being late in the round.

But with these types of situations, fans should ask themselves, "What do the best teams do?" Most don't keep old players and they try to get something in return. Why wouldn't we want the Chiefs to do the same?

If the offer is shit, move on. But a legit. offer, like if the idiot on the Net is right about a 2nd and 5th, should have been accepted yesterday.

ceebz 10-10-2008 03:15 PM

I still hold out for a first though. You're trading the face of your franchise, and this move makes the Giants the unquestionable favorite in a brutal NFC.

Since when is a trip to the Super Bowl not worth a 1st round pick?

Direckshun 10-10-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5101935)
Id be stoked if it went down like that.

I'd be more stoked for Gonzalez, more than anything.

MIAdragon 10-10-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5101941)
I'd be more stoked for Gonzalez, more than anything.

Im with you.

OnTheWarpath15 10-10-2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5101927)
He's worth a lot more to the Chiefs than he is to anybody else. They're basically saying Gonzalez=Shockey, which is a goddamn joke.

Sentimentally, yeah, he's worth more to us than anyone else.

But he's physically worth WAY more to a team that could very realistically be hoisting their 2nd straight Lombardi Trophy come February 2009.

You can't give him away, but if someone makes a solid offer, it's what's best for the future of the franchise, IMO.

What has a better chance of happening:

a) Tony Gonzalez helping this team win a Super Bowl in the next 2-3 years?

b) The draft pick we received as compensation helping this team win a Super Bowl in the next 5-10 years?

I know, both are longshots. But option A has ZERO chance of happening.

Dave Lane 10-10-2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5101913)
I'd hold out for the #1 or the #2.

A #1 or a 2 and a 4. Anything else is reeruned especially from the Giants since the 1st rounder will be like a 2nd...

Dave

Brock 10-10-2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5101938)
But with these types of situations, fans should ask themselves, "What do the best teams do?" Most don't keep old players and they try to get something in return. Why wouldn't we want the Chiefs to do the same?

If Gonzalez contract was almost up, you might have a point.

DeezNutz 10-10-2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5101927)
He's worth a lot more to the Chiefs than he is to anybody else. They're basically saying Gonzalez=Shockey, which is a goddamn joke.

Worth in what sense?

From a wins and losses perspective, I don't think he makes a damn bit of difference. This team sucks. If it's 4-12 with Gonzo or 2-14 without him, I'd take the latter because it means we're closer to getting rid of the clowns in charge AND we're getting (or should be getting) better players in the draft.

DeezNutz 10-10-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5101946)
If Gonzalez contract was almost up, you might have a point.

He's going to play at a high level for 2 maybe 3 more years, assuming he doesn't get injured. Will this team compete at a high level during this period? His contract length doesn't matter.

suds79 10-10-2008 03:20 PM

This is one of the few times where I'd support a deal even if we don't necessarily get fair market value. And that's purely because Tony has put in the work and deserves a chance to play for a winner.

Now the more we could gash a team of draft picks the better but I'm in support of the deal.

DaKCMan AP 10-10-2008 03:21 PM

Unless a team gives up way too much value, then **** that. More than likely a team wouldn't give more than a 2nd and Tony is worth more on the field than a 2nd.

As far as "Tony deserves better" - bullshit. He signed a contract to stay here and is making a boatload of money.

Brock 10-10-2008 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5101949)
Worth in what sense?

From a wins and losses perspective, I don't think he makes a damn bit of difference. This team sucks. If it's 4-12 with Gonzo or 2-14 without him, I'd take the latter because it means we're closer to getting rid of the clowns in charge AND we're getting (or should be getting) better players in the draft.

Well, I'm not really into playing for draft position. If you are, I guess that's okay. Croyle, or whoever the Chiefs draft at QB next year won't be thanking Carl for this deal.

DeezNutz 10-10-2008 03:22 PM

I understand where everyone's coming from who claims that Tony "deserves" to play for a winner.

But **** that. I deserve to cheer for a ****ing winner, too. Hope in one hand, shit in the other...


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